Mainstream Rock is turning into Rap.

12345AGNST1
12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
edited November 2008 in Other Music
Everytime I hear a new song from Nickelback, Saliva, Chevelle, all of those terrible bands I get so fucking annoyed. ALL of these bands sound COMPLETELY identical. It's like their producers make them have this same sound as everyone else. The guitar riffs, guitar solos, the guitar tone, drum sound, drumming, bass, song structure, vocals, lyrics all sounds exactly the same. There is NOTHING unique with any of these current bands. I am seriously convinced that their record companies do not let them have their own style. The quality is just getting worse and worse. Pretty soon rock bands won't even be playing their instruments on stage.


(PS: I am only talking about these new "alternative" bands)
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    What does any of that have to do with rap?
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    What does any of that have to do with rap?


    I think he's refering to how commercial rap music faces much of the same problem.
  • spat
    spat Posts: 644
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Pretty soon rock bands won't even be playing their instruments on stage.

    i hear that. pretty soon bands will be on stage playing guitar hero and rock band and passing it off as talent
    My favorite Pearl Jam song: "Corporate Greed Boat Asshole Behind a Counter in the Oval Office"
  • pearljam0000
    pearljam0000 Posts: 450
    I kind of like Chevelle.
  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Everytime I hear a new song from Nickelback, Saliva, Chevelle, all of those terrible bands I get so fucking annoyed. ALL of these bands sound COMPLETELY identical. It's like their producers make them have this same sound as everyone else. The guitar riffs, guitar solos, the guitar tone, drum sound, drumming, bass, song structure, vocals, lyrics all sounds exactly the same. There is NOTHING unique with any of these current bands. I am seriously convinced that their record companies do not let them have their own style. The quality is just getting worse and worse. Pretty soon rock bands won't even be playing their instruments on stage.


    (PS: I am only talking about these new "alternative" bands)


    And you're just discovering this now? This has been happening to mainstream rock music ever since Cobain blew his head off in '94. It's nothing new. I probably couldn't even tell you what some of these bands sound like, because I haven't listened to mainstream radio in probably 7 or 8 years. There are hundreds of great bands out there with original sounds, playing their own instruments and writing their own songs without record company interference. And they all rock harder than anything you'll hear on the radio. It's out there. Ya just gotta do a little digging.
    "I try my best to chug, stomp, weep, whisper, moan, wheeze, scat, blurt, rage, whine, and seduce. With my voice I can sound like a girl, the boogieman, a Theremin, a cherry bomb, a clown, a doctor, a murderer. I can be tribal. Ironic. Or disturbed. My voice is really my instrument."

    -Tom Waits
  • Igottago
    Igottago Posts: 483
    So don't listen to it. Easy solution. I stopped paying attention to "the mainstream" years ago.
  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Igottago wrote:
    So don't listen to it. Easy solution. I stopped paying attention to "the mainstream" years ago.


    I agree with what your saying...totally agree.

    But on that same token...

    Don't you find it a little bit disheartning that "Mainstream" still remains a bad word?

    Don't you find it fustrating that an overwhelming majority of mainstream music is inherently made up of music that is neither artisically credible or challenging?

    Is is fair to assume that the majority of people on this earth are un-cultured consumptive zombies who like their art easily digestable and void of engaging content or challenge?

    What does this say about our culture and where it is heading?

    Obviously...I've long since given up on mainstream media to provide anything remotely engaging or Intellectually and artistically satisfying.

    But that doesn't mean that I'm going to sit back and be happy about it.

    I personally think on a larger scale that this is evidence how the human race as a whole has completly lost the plot.

    I feel it is evidence that our society has grown stagnent and stunted in regards to our development and furthering of intellegence and progression as a culture.

    And it's on a much deeper level than simply being pissed off because my favorite bands aren't getting the recognition I feel they rightfully deserve.

    It's a real bummer.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    dont listen to that garbage. getting sirius has been the best thing that has happened to me, musically since i first discovered pearl jam. the only regular radio i listen to is the occasional sports talk in my town. i would off myself if i were forced to listen to that garbage you mentioned in the original post.
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Is is fair to assume that the majority of people on this earth are un-cultured consumptive zombies who like their art easily digestable and void of engaging content or challenge?
    hmmm, I think it's unfair to make the assumption that since someone likes a certain type of music, that person is an un-cultured zombie. Not everyone looks at music like you do, that's all. Not everyone listens to music with an artist's ear...many people just listen because it sounds good, or it has a good beat, or it makes them laugh, or something simple like that....they don't look deeply into it. But that doesn't mean they're shallow zombies...it just means they don't find much meaning in music...they may find it in paintings or novels or other art forms.

    I think people in general are still growing just fine. The things we all discuss nowadays are on a much higher level intellectually than what our parents would talk about. We are still progressing...popular music doesn't really play a role in it. It's not like we made any giant leaps when popular music and artistically-sound music were somewhat in-line with each other.

    And to flip it, I've met plenty of people who like artistically-sound music who I'd describe as completely uncultured and zombie-like.
  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Is is fair to assume that the majority of people on this earth are un-cultured consumptive zombies who like their art easily digestable and void of engaging content or challenge?

    What does this say about our culture and where it is heading?

    I personally think on a larger scale that this is evidence how the human race as a whole has completly lost the plot.

    I feel it is evidence that our society has grown stagnent and stunted in regards to our development and furthering of intellegence and progression as a culture.


    You just hit the nail on the head, my friend. My sentiments exactly! It's the same reason why crap movies like High School Musical 3 and Beverly Hills Chihuahua were #1 at the box office when they were released. We're constantly told by the mainstream media what to eat, what to like, what's cool, what's not cool, etc... It's our choice whether or not to listen to that shit and follow it like sheep. Sadly the majority of people, especially North Americans, are incredibly lazy and prefer to have their culture spoon-fed to them by TV and the media.
    "I try my best to chug, stomp, weep, whisper, moan, wheeze, scat, blurt, rage, whine, and seduce. With my voice I can sound like a girl, the boogieman, a Theremin, a cherry bomb, a clown, a doctor, a murderer. I can be tribal. Ironic. Or disturbed. My voice is really my instrument."

    -Tom Waits
  • HatredThrownDown
    HatredThrownDown Posts: 292
    chevelle is great
    Fav. Bands
    My Morning Jacket
    Pearl Jam
    Neil Young
    Wilco
    Tool
    Rush
    Drive By Truckers

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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,610
    This is simple - just stop listening to mainstream shit. Complete shit.
  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    I agree with what your saying...totally agree.

    But on that same token...

    Don't you find it a little bit disheartning that "Mainstream" still remains a bad word?

    Don't you find it fustrating that an overwhelming majority of mainstream music is inherently made up of music that is neither artisically credible or challenging?

    Is is fair to assume that the majority of people on this earth are un-cultured consumptive zombies who like their art easily digestable and void of engaging content or challenge?

    What does this say about our culture and where it is heading?

    Obviously...I've long since given up on mainstream media to provide anything remotely engaging or Intellectually and artistically satisfying.

    But that doesn't mean that I'm going to sit back and be happy about it.

    I personally think on a larger scale that this is evidence how the human race as a whole has completly lost the plot.

    I feel it is evidence that our society has grown stagnent and stunted in regards to our development and furthering of intellegence and progression as a culture.

    And it's on a much deeper level than simply being pissed off because my favorite bands aren't getting the recognition I feel they rightfully deserve.

    It's a real bummer.

    That is exactly how I feel. People's general taste in music is just getting worse and worse. Pretty soon I think this world is going to be filled with morons with the attention span of a fish with all of this terrible music and tv. Have you ever seen Idiocracy?

    And I have always knew that mainstream sucks, it has just been bothering me more lately. I have dug up and looked around for new music, of course there is still plenty of great music around. Its just a SHAME that those bands arent the ones becoming more famous.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Nickelback's writing style (if they have one) sounds more like modern shit country. their lyrics are like shitty rock versions of shitty popcountry lyrics.
  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    That is exactly how I feel. People's general taste in music is just getting worse and worse. Pretty soon I think this world is going to be filled with morons with the attention span of a fish with all of this terrible music and tv. Have you ever seen Idiocracy?.

    That movie is brilliant. And sadly it's a pretty good indication of where we're headed as a culture.
    "I try my best to chug, stomp, weep, whisper, moan, wheeze, scat, blurt, rage, whine, and seduce. With my voice I can sound like a girl, the boogieman, a Theremin, a cherry bomb, a clown, a doctor, a murderer. I can be tribal. Ironic. Or disturbed. My voice is really my instrument."

    -Tom Waits
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    I agree with what your saying...totally agree.

    But on that same token...

    Don't you find it a little bit disheartning that "Mainstream" still remains a bad word?

    Don't you find it fustrating that an overwhelming majority of mainstream music is inherently made up of music that is neither artisically credible or challenging?

    Is is fair to assume that the majority of people on this earth are un-cultured consumptive zombies who like their art easily digestable and void of engaging content or challenge?

    What does this say about our culture and where it is heading?

    Obviously...I've long since given up on mainstream media to provide anything remotely engaging or Intellectually and artistically satisfying.

    But that doesn't mean that I'm going to sit back and be happy about it.

    I personally think on a larger scale that this is evidence how the human race as a whole has completly lost the plot.

    I feel it is evidence that our society has grown stagnent and stunted in regards to our development and furthering of intellegence and progression as a culture.

    And it's on a much deeper level than simply being pissed off because my favorite bands aren't getting the recognition I feel they rightfully deserve.

    It's a real bummer.

    with a few temporary exceptions, its always been that way. its not anything new.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    MrSmith wrote:
    with a few temporary exceptions, its always been that way. its not anything new.
    I agree. Popular music doesn't really say anything about where the culture in general is headed. I think it only seems that way to people who have a deep, serious connection with music...it's such a large part of their spirituality that they assume it's like that for everyone...or that it SHOULD be like that for everyone.
  • Dismantle The Sun
    Dismantle The Sun Posts: 139
    Mainstream is to keep the advertisers happy.
    Nothing has to be too complicated for them - and that includes film or music.
    Mainstream music is written to a set format of 3 and a half minutes long with 2 verses, 2 choruses, and an instrumental bridge.

    'Music for the masses is for asses' as a well known philosopher once said.
    Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun - W.H. Auden
  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    Just listen to whatever you want.....
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
  • Dismantle The Sun
    Dismantle The Sun Posts: 139
    Cropduster84 wrote:
    Just listen to whatever you want.....

    Shhhhhh don't tell the advertisers. That's a secret between you, me, the lampost and the Pearl Jam board.
    Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun - W.H. Auden

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