a serious discussion about soundgarden

newwetkojak
newwetkojak Posts: 62
edited March 2008 in Other Music
i did a search for sg and a billion things showed up, so fuck it. a new soundgarden thread.

when i'm diggin on soundgarden, i rank them second only to the mighty zep for creative, soul bearing classic rock muzak. what a great band, what a great career, what an amazing catalog of music. a beautiful evolution from the gnarly hardcore acid blues of "screaming life," to the almost cock rock "fopp", to the dischordant hardcore metal on "ultramega ok", to the streamlined and subversively mainstreamed "louder than love," to the immortal epicness of "badmotorfinger," to the brain-blowingly diverse "superunknown," and, finally, the experimental last-gasp of "down on the upside"... these guys never bent to any corporate will or greed... they stayed the course, playing to please and challenge themselves... and it shows... their legacy will last for as long as teenage kids listen to cool music and smoke dope behind the school. "searching with my good eye closed" will never sound old, "beyond the wheel" will never sound like something from the long lost past, "jesus christ pose" will crush skulls until music is never played again, and "i awake" will never be anything but the darkest love song of all time.

i'm winding down my annual soundgarden kick. every spring i get the urge and run through their entire catalog over and over and over for a few weeks. love this fucking band. their legacy is so strong, that noone dares sound like them. queens of the stone age are the only guys trying for that classic heaviness (and succeeding).
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  • blinddogsdontbelieve
    blinddogsdontbelieve Posts: 110
    wow, well said! that summed up one the most eclectic, unique and seminal rock bands of the last twenty years. and there was only one led zep, but it would have debatable if soundgarden had kept on. there was no weak link in this band, only four equal parts. true class!!!!!
  • newwetkojak
    newwetkojak Posts: 62
    i wanna go on record as saying that i do NOT want a soundgarden reunion album/tour/one-off show. there's no point.

    but i do wanna hear that chris and kim and matt and ben got together in someone's basement and jammed just for the hell of it and it sounded like the gods above were fucking. i don't need to hear it, i just wanna know that they did it.
  • i like matt.c
    i like matt.c Posts: 1,122
    newwetkojak wrote:
    but i do wanna hear that chris and kim and matt and ben got together in someone's basement and jammed just for the hell of it and it sounded like the gods above were fucking. i don't need to hear it, i just wanna know that they did it.
    Oh, I'd need to hear Soundgarden do that! :D
  • dharma69
    dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    And the vocal ferocity of "Cold Bitch" would make lesser men pee their pants then shrivel up and die.

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  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    Soundgarden were truly something else.....


    Been listening to Down On The Upside continually this past week......what a record.....

    'Zero Chance' may just be the most beautiful song ever written.....


    Also, 'Tighter and Tighter'....WOW.....

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  • stargirl69
    stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    newwetkojak wrote:
    i did a search for sg and a billion things showed up, so fuck it. a new soundgarden thread.

    when i'm diggin on soundgarden, i rank them second only to the mighty zep for creative, soul bearing classic rock muzak. what a great band, what a great career, what an amazing catalog of music. a beautiful evolution from the gnarly hardcore acid blues of "screaming life," to the almost cock rock "fopp", to the dischordant hardcore metal on "ultramega ok", to the streamlined and subversively mainstreamed "louder than love," to the immortal epicness of "badmotorfinger," to the brain-blowingly diverse "superunknown," and, finally, the experimental last-gasp of "down on the upside"... these guys never bent to any corporate will or greed... they stayed the course, playing to please and challenge themselves... and it shows... their legacy will last for as long as teenage kids listen to cool music and smoke dope behind the school. "searching with my good eye closed" will never sound old, "beyond the wheel" will never sound like something from the long lost past, "jesus christ pose" will crush skulls until music is never played again, and "i awake" will never be anything but the darkest love song of all time.

    i'm winding down my annual soundgarden kick. every spring i get the urge and run through their entire catalog over and over and over for a few weeks. love this fucking band. their legacy is so strong, that noone dares sound like them. queens of the stone age are the only guys trying for that classic heaviness (and succeeding).

    Oh so well said.They were a phenomenal band.With a great catalogue of music that still sounds fucking amazing.
    I love them best when I don't expect to hear them,like in a pub or when my mp3 is on random and they havn't come round for a while.My adrenaline rushes and I get goose bumps,its sounds so good.
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  • jammerfall
    jammerfall Posts: 908
    Listening to "A Sides" right now. SG was an extremely potent band. I miss 'em.
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    i wish they'd put out a live album and/or a b-sides album. i think Chris said he'd leave all the shit like that up to Kim.
  • mole1985
    mole1985 Posts: 1,119
    Mushmouthmatt wrote:
    i wish they'd put out a live album and/or a b-sides album. i think Chris said he'd leave all the shit like that up to Kim.

    Yeah 'B-Sides' is like taking forever. What is Kim upto these days anyone know? I know he did an album with Kris from Nirvana, anyone know if it's any good?
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  • reversedarwinism
    reversedarwinism Posts: 1,151
    Yes. Soundgarden is the best "hard rock" band ever. The best I've ever heard, and I can't imagine a hard rock band being better. It doesn't seem possible. They had the best of all parts and the best sum of the parts. From Screaming Life to DOTUS (minus Fopp) its the best. I'm always jamming soundgarden. I may be going through a heavy periods of other bands (currently Tom Petty), but I'm still spinning SG all the time, cause it the best.
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  • HatredThrownDown
    HatredThrownDown Posts: 292
    cornell ruins sg
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  • reeferchief
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    mole1985 wrote:
    Yeah 'B-Sides' is like taking forever. What is Kim upto these days anyone know? I know he did an album with Kris from Nirvana, anyone know if it's any good?

    Do you mean Eyes Adrift? I think Kim maybe appeared on one or two tracks at most, it was actually one of the meat puppets, a guy from Sublime and Krist that were Eyes Adrift.

    Not that this is gospel or anything but no mention of Krist here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyes_Adrift

    Here's Kim's page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Thayil
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    HatredThrownDown wrote:
    cornell ruins sg

    this is the stupidest thing ive ever read. cornell was a monster in that band.
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  • culot4
    culot4 Posts: 775
    Soundgarden would have cemented themselves a pioneer status if not for the antics of Chris Corny, and his anything for a buck and exposure at whatever cost actions over the past decade. The guy is a joke, thus tainting the relevance of Soundgarden as a band when it comes time to give them a place in rock history.
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  • catefrances
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    culot4 wrote:
    Soundgarden would have cemented themselves a pioneer status if not for the antics of Chris Corny, and his anything for a buck and exposure at whatever cost actions over the past decade. The guy is a joke, thus tainting the relevance of Soundgarden as a band when it comes time to give them a place in rock history.


    ah bullcarp. anything cornell did AFTER soungarden should not reflect on what that band means in the scheme of things. thats like saying david lee roth doing just a gigolo and california girls reflects on what van halen did. it doesnt. so youre contention about cornell holds no water.
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    catefrances wrote:
    ah bullcarp. anything cornell did AFTER soungarden should not reflect on what that band means in the scheme of things. thats like saying david lee roth doing just a gigolo and california girls reflects on what van halen did. it doesnt. so youre contention about cornell holds no water.
    Sure it holds water because the only problem with using VH as an example is that band sucks too. Soundgarden in its time was a really good band, but when Cornell decided to turn into Derrick Zoolander it made Soundgarden look like a fad cashing in on the right image at the right time. If it was 1985 I don't think Cornell would have had any problem using a can of Aqua Net on his head, and being the frontman for Poison. We all got duped. The guy is a phony.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    culot4 wrote:
    Sure it holds water because the only problem with using VH as an example is that band sucks too. Soundgarden in its time was a really good band, but when Cornell decided to turn into Derrick Zoolander it made Soundgarden look like a fad cashing in on the right image at the right time. If it was 1985 I don't think Cornell would have had any problem using a can of Aqua Net on his head, and being the frontman for Poison. We all got duped. The guy is a phony.

    see heres the thing about stating opinion as absolute. music is extremely subjective. you say VH suck but there'd be just as many people who hold them in high esteem as there are soundgarden fans who think highly of that band, maybe even more. who knows. what i was merely pointing out was a singers postband activity should not reflect on their work with that band. i could easily have used guns'n'roses and axl rose.
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  • newwetkojak
    newwetkojak Posts: 62
    culot4 wrote:
    Sure it holds water because the only problem with using VH as an example is that band sucks too. Soundgarden in its time was a really good band, but when Cornell decided to turn into Derrick Zoolander it made Soundgarden look like a fad cashing in on the right image at the right time. If it was 1985 I don't think Cornell would have had any problem using a can of Aqua Net on his head, and being the frontman for Poison. We all got duped. The guy is a phony.



    i bet you were a fucking phoney at some point in your recent past. i'm not holding it against you, am i?
  • culot4
    culot4 Posts: 775
    newwetkojak wrote:
    i bet you were a fucking phoney at some point in your recent past. i'm not holding it against you, am i?

    I don't see what this has to do with you putting a fad band like Soundgarden on a pedestal with Zeppelin.
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  • newwetkojak
    newwetkojak Posts: 62
    *crickets crickets crickets*


    even in the invisible world of the internet, you have the personality to clear out an entire room. good job. stating soundgarden as a "fad band" reflects poorly on your musical views/tastes/opinions... it sheds new light on all of your previous posts, tainting them, and soiling any relevancy they might have held. much like your opinion of cornell with his past soundgarden work.

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