PJ and vegetarianism?

fragileblake wrote:

Right, because the only thing that vegetarians and vegans eat are vegetables and fruits right? Its pretty easy to afford for me, Portland has a ton of farmer's markets and small co-ops with great bulk selections. I know I'm spoiled though.

jesus.... i never implied you were spoiled... im sitting here laughing at how ridiculous i can act with people still believing it... do the same thing with the vegetarians i hang out with everyday... its fun... i guess it requires the verbal inflection i deliver it with... doesnt work online

ok you eat more than veggies and fruit... what else? tofu, bread, soy milk, etc... none of the things i can think of are cheaper than hot dogs... just saying...

weenie wrote:

This isn't definitive, but in one of the "Deep" issues there is an article about what the band has to eat after a show. It talks about veggie burgers that the guys love. I'd always ASSUMED that most of them are veggie. Ed's food preferences have been referenced in articles I've read elsewhere but I'm not sure about the rest of the band. Mike's health issues might be the basis for vegetarianism and I think I've also read that Stone is veggie.

Mike's "health issues" are that he has Crohn's Disease, and from what I have read, Crohn's sufferers are generally recommended to eat a healthy diet that includes meat.

Snake wrote:

Well I was for the most part a vegetarian, now recently I am more of a pescatarian (spelling?) So the only "meat" I eat is fish, wild caught, never farm raised, which is the reason I do this. It's a matter of animal cruelty as far as im concerned. So I wouldnt mind free range, or maybe a game animal, but im still working on that, as far as my personal morals go. BUT, I dont mind if my friends eat it, I have nothing against people who eat meat. Its just that I dont want to have anything to do with eating it personally, and cant even bring myself to eat it now.

Also just wondering im not sure what you meant by "farm animal beastiality" but I wanted to point out (whether its what you meant or not) that beastiality is having sex with animals. Thats probably what you meant, but I just making sure.

Funny thing though, when I checked to make sure I was right about what I thought beastiality was, I looked on Wikipedia, and Pearl Jam is the featured article So hey cool stuff!

BTW im not offended, just wanted to use my voice (symbolically of course ) Cows do need to be milked. But i'd say that their probably supposed to be milked by having their calfs suck it out .

thank you for perspective!

i appreciate you recognizing my jesting and not taking it all too literally... and i think its cool that you were able to explain your stance as well as you did and remaining so open minded with your friends...

kindof worries me that PJ is linked to beastiality... but id rather not look into it myself... haha

Snake wrote:

lol! Na they were just the featured article on the main page of Wikipedia.

Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

sweet! now high schoolers everywhere using faulty research materials will know of pearl jam!

I just woke up from an extremely long nap and read almost every single post as "Eddie is a virgin" and just couldn't think straight, lol.

Where do I begin with this. I come from an Italian family that ate everything under the sun. If you ever heard a word start with v-e-g it was meant vegatables, which of course Italians love. Along with pork, and sausage, and veal, and chicken, and steaks, and every red meat you can imagine. I grew up on this stuff. Meat was part of the daily intake. On both sides of my family for that fact. My moms side, oh man, bratwurst, sauerbraten, beef beef beef, oh and vegetables.

I'm in my mid 20s and decide to move to California from NY and found a whole new cuisine out here. No longer am I surrounded by the meat eating Italians, and Polish, and Germans, but now a whole new area of eating that I've never explored before. I was pretty narrow minded when I moved out here when it came to food. There was no way I was trying anything new and what I couldn't get out here, I'd make myself the way I learned at home.

I'm my late 20's I met the girl I ultimately married. She, vegetarian/vegan as they come. No meat, no dairy, some grains, some fish, no big bowl of macaroni with meatballs and bracciole like I'm used to back in NY. Everything is organic, bland, healthy, and in my eyes, tasted like shit.

Now, my eyes are open. I eat a lot healthier and I actually read what is in the ingredients of the garbage we buy. I eat at vegetarian restaurants with her all and don't complain anymore. The food is surprisingly good. Granted I have to find the nearest pizzeria, or In N Out Burger after we finish so I can really eat, but I've opened my eyes to the fact that this... people are different. People choose to eat what they want, because they want. I'm sure some of it is partly because of trends and it's the new thing to do, but if it is, what they eat does not affect me. I don't expect everyone to eat like I do, nor do I expect to eat like everyone else does. My wife also likes Eddie all the more now that she knows he's a vegetarian. Me, I could give a rats ass.

bird jam wrote:

Mike's "health issues" are that he has Crohn's Disease, and from what I have read, Crohn's sufferers are generally recommended to eat a healthy diet that includes meat.

If true, then you are better educated on Crohn's than I am, thus the word "might" in the post I submitted.

My mom has crohns and she was recommended a vegetarian diet, vegan preferably. She's doing much better on it. I had IBS for practically my whole life. When I went vegetarian it vanished. I didn't even notice for a few months until one day I realised I hadn't been lying on the floor with cramps in awhile.
As for the comment that said cows need to be milked....most people I meet don't know that cows need to be kept in a constant state of pregnancy to give milk. They lactate just like a female human. It's this very reson that the veal industry exists. The mother cows are impregnated, give birth, if it's a male calf they take it away at just a couple days old and chain it up away from it's mother and then it's killed for veal. The mother cow is then milked and eventually impregnated again. This is so hard on dairy cows bodies they live an average of 3 years before being slaughtered. A cows normal life span is over 20 years.
I know alot of vegans and vegetarians and none of them (except for one arrogant guy) think they are any better then anyone else. They, and I, just recognize that killing other living beings is wrong. We don't need meat to survive. It's a form of oppression and violence and takes advantage of those who can't defend themselves. I don't want to be a part of that. Not to mention how bad it is on the enviroment. I ate meat for along time. I took awhile to recognize this.

Is anyone else reading this and starting to fancy a bacon sandwich?

halv wrote:

....I know alot of vegans and vegetarians and none of them (except for one arrogant guy) think they are any better then anyone else. They, and I, just recognize that killing other living beings is wrong. We don't need meat to survive. It's a form of oppression and violence and takes advantage of those who can't defend themselves. I don't want to be a part of that. Not to mention how bad it is on the enviroment. I ate meat for along time. I took awhile to recognize this.

i just don't eat meat cause it's icky. and it used to make me feel icky too. i can't even touch it anymore.