Yield

Lemme listen to this trilogy in order and write something up big this weekend.

I can't really fuck around during the day at this job, so....

RK, I see what you are going for with this, but I will come at it with an open mind.

CTPJFan wrote:

Yield is awesome!
My second Fav. album right behind No Code

Faithfull is great, Pilate is cool. The three best songs in a row are found on Yield. (MFC, Low Light, In Hiding). Great album from a great year.

Yes, young wise one. We call this the Natty Light trilogy. For explanation, please ask Fanch.

Every time I play Yeild it reminds me of a car trip me and some friends took up to the city one year. We sung the whole way!!

Fave song would have to be Faithfull or Pilate. Or All Those Yesterdays, or Low Light...AH HELL the whole fricken CD is awesome

Re: Into the Wild > No Code > YIELD

I like this trilogy, especially how it seems to mature at each stage.

I'm seeing it as the growth of an individual from the impulsive to the introspective to the sagacious. Into the Wild gives us that sheer impetuous escapist viewpoint - of completely cutting ties and disappearing. No Code brings in the Present Tense aspect, certainly Smile and Off He Goes also fit the idea of confusion and turning points.

However, I never liked No Code that much because the flow just stinks. Sometimes>Hail, Hail>Who You Are works. All of those songs I like. In My Tree...I just don't get that one. I don't like it. Seems too much like a Vitalogy hold over.

Smile>Off He Goes, very clutch. Again, I think we see Ed's second question here. If we count escape as one, the second must be friendship. Wishlist obviously comes to mind as well -- I guess things like Daughter and Betterman also fit this mold of friendship/familial relationships.

Habit is another friend song, but as with Red Mosquito and Lukin, I could do without them.

Present Tense just might be my favorite PJ song, but that's a story for another day.

Mankind blows.

I'm Open can go either way. If I'm in the mood, great. If not, another Vitalogy wannabe.

Around the Bend it great. I mean, it was written for the MJI's kids for Christ's sake.


That said...I can't personally listen to No Code as an album. I have to skip certain tracks. I do like the strangeness of it, the questioning nature, the insecurities, but I think it's a weak effort overall.

Into the Wild presents an ultimate view of the world: "I need to leave."
Yield, in a similar vein, also proclaims a particular stance, which is to YIELD ...and we've discussed this in great detail previously.

However, I personally can't pin one thread of though to No Code. As RK wrote, this is its appeal....and it is how it works in this trilogy, but I just can't wrap my own brain around it enough to make sense of it as a whole.

In many ways for me, the new record is enticing to plug in here because of the questions raised by Life Wasted/Parachutes/Gone/Army Reserve/Come Back and Inside Job. But, the catch there are the political songs that pull the record out of the greater philosophical discussion and into the contemporary political climate.


The moral of the story is: Into the Wild shows the first stage - what our initial reactions are to crisis and despair. (Again, I must note that the direction of the music was related to the action on screen and the story unfolding there....so this is how I'm choosing to twist it) YIELD, as we know, is the synthesis of many minds coming together to find resolution, to work together for the common good, to give it all to get a little.

What does No Code do? It jumps all over the place, it makes assumptions, it revels in the present, it goes on a psychotic binge. I can see how the YIELD theory arises from this, but I just can't listen to it.


(That's like, your opinion, man)

Wow, sorry Will, I just now saw this. That's a lot to take in, but I don't really totally disagree with you. I've said since it came out that No Code is fatally flawed. I fucking HATE the track sequence more than any other album out there I think. It makes no sense whatsoever. The themes of the album are all over place. It doesn't always make sense lyrically. It's just a mess...a train wreck of an album.

I guess where we differ, though, is that for some reason that ordered chaos kinda turns me on. That conflict and anxiety that I get from it....I dunno, I really like it, especially when I have YIELD there to follow up. I think in retrospect, what I'm sort of saying is that I think YIELD actually makes No Code BETTER. I hated No Code when it came out. I just did. But after YIELD came out, I was able to go back and suddenly it clicked and I felt like I understood what was so urgent and neccessary about No Code. And now, it really is my 2nd favorite PJ album for that very reason.....well, that, and MJI, of course.

Regardless, I'm glad you gave the trilogy a shot. Like I said originally, it's not going to be for everyone. It just happens to make a world of sense to me.

Thought this might be a good time to bump this thread.

Discussions. Begin.

PBM

jlew24asu wrote:

In Hiding was the best song played at the Vic and IMO the best live song I have ever heard

In Hiding at the Vic was indeed amazing. It's easily one of PJ's best songs.

http://s209.photobucket.com/albums/bb277/devilledbetter/PJ%20Vic/?action=view&current=6800932c.flv

I can't believe that YIELD will be 10 years old in february! Who's organizing the listening party??

YieldInHiding wrote:

Preparations are under way. Still can't get a hold of Jack's management though.

Action? Jack?