Robert Plant named 23rd worst lyricist of All Time by Blender

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  • Oh, Jimmy
    Oh, Jimmy Posts: 957
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    what makes you think that prince was influenced by zeppelin? and that isn't my point. people who are influenced by zeppelin are only influenced second-hand. Led Zep BLATANTLY plagiarised other artists. people that prince influenced were influenced by him because he was doing something different. he was creating a synthesis of genres and styles that no one else was daring in the 80s, a decade more concerned with record company revenue and sell-out stadium tours. is there a more creative and intelligent pop song in the 80s than Sign 'O' The Times? I doubt it. Zeppelin were a good band, no doubt. They were not, however, a band that changed things.

    I would almost guarantee that if questioned, Prince would say he was influenced by Zeppelin. If he doesnt, he is a liar.

    Led Zeppelin's influence is so great, that there may not be a pop/rock band/artist that isn't effected by it in some way.

    Prince has made way too much fluff to be compared to Zeppelin.

    If you honestly believe that Prince is in any way more talented, more creative, or just out and out better than Zeppelin then I feel sorry for you.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Oh, Jimmy wrote:
    I would almost guarantee that if questioned, Prince would say he was influenced by Zeppelin. If he doesnt, he is a liar.

    Led Zeppelin's influence is so great, that there may not be a pop/rock band/artist that isn't effected by it in some way.

    Prince has made way too much fluff to be compared to Zeppelin.

    If you honestly believe that Prince is in any way more talented, more creative, or just out and out better than Zeppelin then I feel sorry for you.
    you feel sorry for me?! of course he's more creative. have you ever heard a more sophisticated musician in pop music? listen to the albums Purple Rain, Parade and Sign 'O' the times and if you can't see that Prince is an unusually talented musician then save your pity for yourself. Zeppelin were fairly traditional in their music. they were great musicians for sure but a lot of their stuff is fairly pedestrian blues rock that just doesn't interest me in any way.

    also, Plant has the most annoying voice ever.
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  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    I never understood how anyone can realistically judge lyrics. Outside of obvious stupid ones like basic pop formulas that intend on being without a lot of thought, judging a rock artists lyrics is insane. Do they give credit to people who come up with bizarre lyrics? Sometimes a lyric is absoultely perfect for the song itself. Putting Plant on any list like this is insulting.
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  • stu gee
    stu gee Posts: 1,174
    This post is as pointless as that list.
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  • muppet
    muppet Posts: 980
    "If you honestly believe that Prince is in any way more talented, more creative, or just out and out better than Zeppelin then I feel sorry for you."

    Oh shut up with this "holier than thou" attitude. Zeppelin are undoubtly infuential but to say that every single band today is infulenced by them is taking it a bit too far.
  • failedpersephone
    failedpersephone Posts: 3,424
    Robert Plant and Jim Morrison on this li...oh wait. Blender.


    the list is fucked. nevermind. :rolleyes:
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  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    allforcarrie wrote:
    38) Paul McCartney (The Beatles, solo)

    WTF
    Paul's stuff is far from bad in my opinion.
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  • Oh, Jimmy
    Oh, Jimmy Posts: 957
    muppet wrote:
    "If you honestly believe that Prince is in any way more talented, more creative, or just out and out better than Zeppelin then I feel sorry for you."

    Oh shut up with this "holier than thou" attitude. Zeppelin are undoubtly infuential but to say that every single band today is infulenced by them is taking it a bit too far.

    There are some bands that are a few degrees down the line of influence, for sure, but directly or indirectly Zeppelin has had a bigger influence than anybody. They may not be the most directly influential band, but honestly, and I am not sayin he isnt original, but who has Prince influenced.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    Jim Morrison, Noel Gallagher, Billy Corgan, Paul McCartney, David Crosby..........seriously this list is complete bullshit and they have absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

    dude, i love oasis but their lyrics are about as meaningful as gavin rossdale's ;) i also dig common, kinda surprised he's on there. though i cant argue with most of the list, even the bands i like (lez zeppelin, rush).
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Oh, Jimmy wrote:
    and I am not sayin he isnt original, but who has Prince influenced.
    just about every black artist of the last 25 years. look them up. there's quite a few.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    nice. another list designed to stir controversy.
    I bet I could find 50 worse lyricists in this building.
  • Character Zero
    Character Zero Posts: 96
    I'm not going to say much about this list other than, thank god somebody finally realised that Anthony Keidis is damaging the Chili Peppers.
    The prosecution would like to call the following evidence into trial, Around The Wolrd Lyrics.

    I know, I know for sure
    Bing Bong bing dang dong ding doo (or whatever the hell he says)
    I know, I know it's you
    Zing Zang kung fu manchu (or something else ridiculous like that)

    That completely ruins that song and has to fall somewhere near the top of the dumbest lyrics off all time, you can't even argue it so don't try.
    I was taught a month ago to bide my time and take it slow, but then I learned just yesterday to rush and never waste a day. Now I'm convinced the whole day long that all I've learned is always wrong. Things are true that I forget, but no one taught that to me yet
  • WhiteMaleRat
    WhiteMaleRat Posts: 302
    Character Zero wrote:
    I'm not going to say much about this list other than, thank god somebody finally realised that Anthony Keidis is damaging the Chili Peppers.
    The prosecution would like to call the following evidence into trial, Around The Wolrd Lyrics.

    I know, I know for sure
    Bing Bong bing dang dong ding doo (or whatever the hell he says)
    I know, I know it's you
    Zing Zang kung fu manchu (or something else ridiculous like that)

    That completely ruins that song and has to fall somewhere near the top of the dumbest lyrics off all time, you can't even argue it so don't try.

    he does that in a few songs - for some reason I find it funny. I think when he's writing a song, he has trouble writing lines and verses. So he does that thing just to get the tempo of the verse. Later, he probably just can't find the right words so he goes with the jibberish.

    I'm assuming this - I'm not a big peppers fan.
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  • Character Zero
    Character Zero Posts: 96
    which proves my point, it's not a one time thing, he can't write lyrics.
    I was taught a month ago to bide my time and take it slow, but then I learned just yesterday to rush and never waste a day. Now I'm convinced the whole day long that all I've learned is always wrong. Things are true that I forget, but no one taught that to me yet
  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    Jim Morrison, Noel Gallagher, Billy Corgan, Paul McCartney, David Crosby..........seriously this list is complete bullshit and they have absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

    I thought they might bring you into the fray with Noel Gallagher.

    For lack of a better term, this list is retarded. And I hate using that phrase, but it so makes sense here. This isn't the only time they've come up with some BS music list or another. I mean, they're all over the place with this one.
  • rhcpjam1029
    rhcpjam1029 Posts: 1,982
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    Jim Morrison, Noel Gallagher, Billy Corgan, Paul McCartney, David Crosby..........seriously this list is complete bullshit and they have absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

    For once I agree with a fellow message pit member! LOL jk. But seriously here, what a load of bull. They don't know what they're talking about. The radio station near me was talking about how they rated the drummer of Rush something like 5th or 6th, and they said "Yeah I mean I guess if you're one of the most successful progressive rock bands and have been touring the world for over thirty years your probably not the great of a lyricist." And what the fuck is up with numbers 38-40!?! AK totally sucks as a singer, but he has written probably the most touching and influential lyrics I've ever heard. What a bunch of pussy motherfuckers at Blender.
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  • DiRtyFranK38
    DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    WHAT?? this list is honestly ridiculous! billy corgan!? robert plant, NEIL PEART!?!?!, JIM MORRISON?, queensryche? ...woow
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  • pearljam_addiction
    pearljam_addiction Posts: 668
    The same issue where they list Robert plant, Paul mccartney, and Jim Morrison as some of the worst lyricists , They Praise Chad Kroger and Nickelback as a great band. Hmmm Blender= Good magazine?
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  • Oh, Jimmy
    Oh, Jimmy Posts: 957
    pearljam_addiction wrote:
    The same issue where they list Robert plant, Paul mccartney, and Jim Morrison as some of the worst lyricists , They Praise Chad Kroger and Nickelback as a great band. Hmmm Blender= Good magazine?

    Really? Sucks they gotta sell some magazines, I guess. It has some pretty good interviews and monthly columns. And all in all itsa a pretty entertaining read. I like the magazines sense of humor.
  • Ved in the Head91
    Ved in the Head91 Posts: 70
    Oh, Jimmy wrote:
    Lyrics may be Zeppelin's weakness, but I wouldn't say he's awful. He wrote in a different time. Writin about folklore and the like can sound dated, but you cant deny Plant has some killer lyrics.

    Kashmir
    Ten Years Gone
    Ramble On
    Over the Hills............
    The Song Remains the Same
    Rain Song
    Going to California
    Thank You
    Fool In The Rain
    Achilles Last Stand

    I'll agree almost completely with this list. There's no doubt that Robert eventually came into his own as a lyricist - we all know the early stuff is awful - but the songs you just listed...I couldn't agree more.

    I'd also like to throw in "All of My Love". Jimmy Page may not have liked it, but it really is a heartfelt/complex memoir for his son.
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