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TheRiotAct

See its not so bad...method to their madness.

From Wiki...

Target Corporation is consistently ranked as one of the most philanthropic companies in the country. It ranked #11 in Fortune Magazine's "Top 20 Most Admired Companies" for 2007, largely in part to the donation efforts of the company as a whole.[65] According to a November 2005 Forbes article, it ranked as the highest cash-giving company in America in percentage of income given (2.1%).[66] Target donates around 5 percent of its pre-tax operating profit; it gives over $3 million a week (up from $2 million in years prior) to the communities in which it operates. It also gives a percentage of charges from its Target Visa to schools designated by the cardholders. To date, Target has given over $150 million to schools across the United States through this program. Target's corporate by-laws state it must give 5 percent of its pre-tax profits to charity.[67][citation needed]

Further evidence of Target's philanthropy can be found in the Target House complex in Memphis, Tennessee, a long-term housing solution for families of patients at the city's St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. The corporation led the way with more than $27 million in donations, which made available 96 fully furnished apartments for families needing to stay at St. Jude over 90 days.

Target has a standard no-solicitation rule at its properties, as it seeks to provide a "distraction-free shopping experience for its guests." Exemptions to this policy were previously made for the Salvation Army red kettles and bell-ringers outside Target stores during the holidays through Christmas. In 2004, however, Target asked the organization to explore alternate methods to partner with Target. Target donates to local Salvation Army chapters through its grant program and annually to the United Way of America (the Salvation Army is a member of the United Way coalition).

In 2005, Target and the Salvation Army[68] created a joint effort called "The Target/Salvation Army Wish List," where online shoppers could donate goods to the organization for Hurricane victims by buying them directly from Target.com between November 25, 2005, and January 25, 2006. In 2006, they created another joint effort called "The Target/Salvation Army Angel Giving Tree,"[69] which is an online version of the Salvation Army's Angel Tree program;[70] in addition to donating proceeds made from the sales of limited edition Harvey Lewis angel ornaments within Target's stores. During the Thanksgiving holiday of 2006, Target and the Salvation Army partnered with magician David Blaine to send several families on a shopping spree the morning of Black Friday. The challenge held that if Blaine could successfully work his way out of a spinning gyroscope by the morning of Black Friday, then several families would receive $500 shopping certificates. The challenge was completed successfully by Blaine.[71]

During disasters, Target has been a major benefactor for relief efforts. Target provided monetary and product donations during the September 11 attacks; it also donated money for relief efforts for the 2004 tsunami in South Asia and donated $1.5 million (U.S.) to the American Red Cross in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in 2005. It also allowed its store properties in the affected area to be used as command centers for relief organizations. It also donated supplies such as water and bug spray. Besides these major disasters, Target also regularly lends support to disasters that are not as well known or only affect a regional area.[citation needed]

Zoso

oh god hahah watch out for the locked thread:D

Stephen Flow

I love how people get all up in arms about stuff like this. PJ has teamed up with Verizon and now it looks like Target might be another partner. Who cares? Times have changed, I like that they try to market their music... if they didn't it would be bad business. People get delusional and bent out of shape over this kind of thing all the time.

1STmammal2wearPants

Well based on this, the band shouldn't be such a target for so much hate.

Lizard

1STmammal2wearPants wrote:

Well based on this, the band shouldn't be such a target for so much hate.

ha ha. touche

satansbed

i personally havent been against any target stuff, like a band gotta do what they gotta do and at least it was with some company that has at least some morals

RiotAct10

Look it people. In this day in age, if you are going to release an album on your own, with no record company, and you don't want to lose money doing it, you have to do something like this. Yes, you can try the Radiohead method, but it's been done. I personally could care less if these rumors end up being true, do what you need to do boys, just keep the music good and get your asses on the road!

Stephen Flow

The sad thing is, outside of PJ's core fan base, no one is going to give a fuck about PJ partnering with Target.

But since they're under a microscope here and their ethics are on such a high pedestal they're going to get bruised and battered by the fans who are supposed to love them the most... and that's pretty shitty.

PJ missed their chance to sell out a long time ago, anything corporate that they do now is, in my opinion, done simply because it's a good business venture... take off the rose colored glasses peeps.

Stephen Flow

RiotAct10 wrote:

Look it people. In this day in age, if you are going to release an album on your own, with no record company, and you don't want to lose money doing it, you have to do something like this. Yes, you can try the Radiohead method, but it's been done. I personally could care less if these rumors end up being true, do what you need to do boys, just keep the music good and get your asses on the road!

+1

norm

sony is a corporation

DewieCox

norm wrote:

sony is a corporation

+infinity

nukeboot

Stephen Flow wrote:

The sad thing is, outside of PJ's core fan base, no one is going to give a fuck about PJ partnering with Target.

I don't know. I'll probably catch a steady stream of shit about it from the PJ haters I know.

But you know what, in the words of the great and powerful Ed, fuck 'em!

ledvedderman

norm wrote:

sony is a corporation

Forum Foul...common sense is not appreciated in these parts of the woods, pal.

Lizard

Stephen Flow wrote:

The sad thing is, outside of PJ's core fan base, no one is going to give a fuck about PJ partnering with Target.

Truer words were never typed!!

Plus half the fans here won't get too bothered by it either.

norm

ledvedderman wrote:

norm wrote:

sony is a corporation

Forum Foul...common sense is not appreciated in these parts of the woods, pal.

sorry my bad...i need to act like the rest of the children and get mad and take my toys and go home

nukeboot

Sadly, this board is making it a story.

I've already seen two sites mentioning the shit storm about it here.

Gonzo1977

Y'know, I've always liked Target.
Their symbol reminds me of something near and dear to my heart

But...they are a corporation and all of our liberal left wing books have told us to avoid corporations like lepers, because they are under every circumstance run by evil despicable pricks who dump sludge in our waters and give cancer to our children.

How dare Pearl Jam align themselves with these swine!!

DeLukin

It's only a story here because of all the censorship from the board mods. Which only works to fuel MORE rumor and speculation thus making it an even bigger story, and the cycle continues...

pjsyco

Stephen Flow wrote:

I love how people get all up in arms about stuff like this. PJ has teamed up with Verizon and now it looks like Target might be another partner. Who cares? Times have changed, I like that they try to market their music... if they didn't it would be bad business. People get delusional and bent out of shape over this kind of thing all the time.

A-fucking-men to this!! Who really gives a fuck? Times DO change. Some people need to get off their high horse around here. JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING MUSIC, PEOPLE.....LOOSEN UP!!!!

benjs

Here's my thinking - and if my logic is flawed, please explain how, as I wish I knew more about the way these things work.
So, PJ decides to give an exclusive deal to a big-box retailer (let's say.... Target, hypothetically). Target, recognizing they have an exclusive, orders a larger volume than they otherwise would have. Therefore, Pearl Jam and their management make a larger amount of copies to sell. With larger volume comes bigger discounts - which are passed on to the consumer in the end. In this way, although, yes, the ma & pa shops suffer, the buyers ultimately get a lower price.
Like I said, this is just what I thought happens. If I'm wrong, would someone please explain how?

aNiMaL

norm wrote:

sony is a corporation

Exactly. I have no issues at all with the Target partnership. Target has always seemed like a responsible corporation, just like the Pearl Jam corporation.

Lizard

pjsyco wrote:

Stephen Flow wrote:

I love how people get all up in arms about stuff like this. PJ has teamed up with Verizon and now it looks like Target might be another partner. Who cares? Times have changed, I like that they try to market their music... if they didn't it would be bad business. People get delusional and bent out of shape over this kind of thing all the time.

A-fucking-men to this!! Who really gives a fuck? Times DO change. Some people need to get off their high horse around here. JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING MUSIC, PEOPLE.....LOOSEN UP!!!!

Wait!! Does your avatar say PEARL JAM SUX???!!!! :shock:

pjsyco

Lizard wrote:

pjsyco wrote:

Stephen Flow wrote:

I love how people get all up in arms about stuff like this. PJ has teamed up with Verizon and now it looks like Target might be another partner. Who cares? Times have changed, I like that they try to market their music... if they didn't it would be bad business. People get delusional and bent out of shape over this kind of thing all the time.

A-fucking-men to this!! Who really gives a fuck? Times DO change. Some people need to get off their high horse around here. JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING MUSIC, PEOPLE.....LOOSEN UP!!!!

Wait!! Does your avatar say PEARL JAM SUX???!!!! :shock:

Not my thoughts, Hootie's drummers thoughts. He was joking because he knows how big of a fan I am.

gobrowns19

benjs wrote:

Here's my thinking - and if my logic is flawed, please explain how, as I wish I knew more about the way these things work.
So, PJ decides to give an exclusive deal to a big-box retailer (let's say.... Target, hypothetically). Target, recognizing they have an exclusive, orders a larger volume than they otherwise would have. Therefore, Pearl Jam and their management make a larger amount of copies to sell. With larger volume comes bigger discounts - which are passed on to the consumer in the end. In this way, although, yes, the ma & pa shops suffer, the buyers ultimately get a lower price.
Like I said, this is just what I thought happens. If I'm wrong, would someone please explain how?

I think when AC/DC or Metallica or The Eagles, one of those, released their latest album, they only went through one store, Wal-Mart I believe. By doing that it guarantees x number of albums are sold, then it's that companies [company's i think is the right spelling here?] responsibility to make a profit themselves.

I worked at Target, it's really not bad. I would prefer PJ didn't do this, but it's not the end of the world.

DewieCox

gobrowns19 wrote:

benjs wrote:

Here's my thinking - and if my logic is flawed, please explain how, as I wish I knew more about the way these things work.
So, PJ decides to give an exclusive deal to a big-box retailer (let's say.... Target, hypothetically). Target, recognizing they have an exclusive, orders a larger volume than they otherwise would have. Therefore, Pearl Jam and their management make a larger amount of copies to sell. With larger volume comes bigger discounts - which are passed on to the consumer in the end. In this way, although, yes, the ma & pa shops suffer, the buyers ultimately get a lower price.
Like I said, this is just what I thought happens. If I'm wrong, would someone please explain how?

I think when AC/DC or Metallica or The Eagles, one of those, released their latest album, they only went through one store, Wal-Mart I believe. By doing that it guarantees x number of albums are sold, then it's that companies responsibility to make a profit themselves.

I worked at Target, it's really not bad. I would prefer PJ didn't do this, but it's not the end of the world.

I don't think that' how it works. I think Target/BestBuy/Walmart agree to distribute the album in exchange exclusivity. I'm pretty sure album sales still start in the same place, the company just funds the album like a record company would.

nukeboot

DeLukin wrote:

It's only a story here because of all the censorship from the board mods. Which only works to fuel MORE rumor and speculation thus making it an even bigger story, and the cycle continues...

I can't disagree with that.

PJBuckeye

I find it funny that this thread is still alive. Bump

ewokpelts

If it's good enough for PRINCE.......

dimitrispearljam

norm wrote:

sony is a corporation

+1

Kilgore_Trout

i just hope their commercial isnt as cheesy as the target exclusive black eyed peas one i just saw - targets all over the background, bad music, very targety

Gary Carter

Its an issues cause fans on here like to bitch bout anything and everything. The mods locked em cause its stupid to have 10 threads on the same topic. Hell people would bitch if ed drove a hummer or something.like take this thread for example. Is there really need to make another threard bout this. Why can't people just use the fucking search function and type in the word target. Not that hard.

DeLukin wrote:

It's only a story here because of all the censorship from the board mods. Which only works to fuel MORE rumor and speculation thus making it an even bigger story, and the cycle continues...