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Red Sox interested in Indians catcher Victor Martinez

Drop The Leash 10Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
edited May 2009 in All Encompassing Trip
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9584 ... would-they


I'm all in favor of this. I loved tek but he's getting old and coming towards the end of his career. Martinez would be a great fit
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Once I get out of this town


9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
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  • captainwisejamcaptainwisejam Posts: 229
    Victor needs to stay in Cleveland, he's a pro and one of the best on the Indians average team.

    F the Redsox, between them and the Yankees they use every other team in the majors as a minor league farm team.

    GROW SOME OF YOUR OWN DAMN TALENT!
    walk the bridges,.......before you burn them down
  • Drop The Leash 10Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    captainwisejam wrote:
    Victor needs to stay in Cleveland, he's a pro and one of the best on the Indians average team.

    F the Redsox, between them and the Yankees they use every other team in the majors as a minor league farm team.

    GROW SOME OF YOUR OWN DAMN TALENT!
    HAHAHAHAHAH what you said is so idiotic and stupid! grow some of your own damn talent.

    here let me make a list for you:
    1. Jacoby Ellsbury
    2. Dustin Pedroia
    3. Kevin Youkilis
    4. Jonathan Papelbon
    5. Justin Masterson
    6. Clay Buchholz
    7. Daniel Bard.
    and so forth..

    hey i know the indians bullpen sucks. but that dont mean you have to get your panties in a knot
    I will be what i could be
    Once I get out of this town


    9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
  • captainwisejamcaptainwisejam Posts: 229
    You want Kelly Shoppach back? :D that's o.k. with me. But Victor is an Indian so he needs to stay here.

    If the sox grow so much talent then call up a catcher instead of raping all the other small market teams! Listen I know how baseball works and the Indian's management is a bunch of tight wads and IS probably shopping Victor but I'm just saying my peace...It pisses me off as a baseball fan here. There needs to be a salary cap.



    If you get Victor, enjoy him, he's been a favorite of mine for some time( just like C.C. Sabbitha, before he left town)

    F'n small market city!
    walk the bridges,.......before you burn them down
  • Fighting HellfishFighting Hellfish Posts: 3,170
    captainwisejam wrote:
    Victor needs to stay in Cleveland, he's a pro and one of the best on the Indians average team.

    F the Redsox, between them and the Yankees they use every other team in the majors as a minor league farm team.

    GROW SOME OF YOUR OWN DAMN TALENT!

    I totally agree with this, and I'm a Yankee fan. I hate that 26 teams in the league serve as a farm system to the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, and occassionally the Cubs or dodgers. Nowadays, when a player breaks out, everyone wonders where he will go. Like Greinke. He'll have a few good years with the Royals, and then sign with one of the big 3. It's not entirely the fault of big market teams though. Small market teams have to occassionally pay their players
  • captainwisejamcaptainwisejam Posts: 229
    Big market teams got bigger bucks. It just sucks.
    walk the bridges,.......before you burn them down
  • thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    everyone is interested in him, but the Indians are shooting teams down. According to the Indians people around here they are asking a king's ransom for him but there are no serious talks. Cliff Lee on the other hand will likely be moved, not Victor
  • PearlOfAGirlPearlOfAGirl Posts: 15,993
    Drop The Leash 10 wrote:
    captainwisejam wrote:
    Victor needs to stay in Cleveland, he's a pro and one of the best on the Indians average team.

    F the Redsox, between them and the Yankees they use every other team in the majors as a minor league farm team.

    GROW SOME OF YOUR OWN DAMN TALENT!
    HAHAHAHAHAH what you said is so idiotic and stupid! grow some of your own damn talent.

    here let me make a list for you:
    1. Jacoby Ellsbury
    2. Dustin Pedroia
    3. Kevin Youkilis
    4. Jonathan Papelbon
    5. Justin Masterson
    6. Clay Buchholz
    7. Daniel Bard.
    and so forth..

    hey i know the indians bullpen sucks. but that dont mean you have to get your panties in a knot
    Good One!!!

    Wish you were here...
    ♥~RIP Dad
  • PearlOfAGirlPearlOfAGirl Posts: 15,993
    I haven't heard to much about him :? I hope he's really good! We really need something to happen right now, usually by this time of year we're in 1st place... ;)

    Wish you were here...
    ♥~RIP Dad
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    captainwisejam wrote:
    You want Kelly Shoppach back?

    Gladly!

    Coco helped the Sox get to the '07 title ... but, it's funny ot look back on that deal when everyone though Andy Marte was the gem, when indeed, it was Shoppach.
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • captainwisejamcaptainwisejam Posts: 229
    jimed14 wrote:
    captainwisejam wrote:
    You want Kelly Shoppach back?

    Gladly!

    Coco helped the Sox get to the '07 title ... but, it's funny ot look back on that deal when everyone though Andy Marte was the gem, when indeed, it was Shoppach.
    Marte has been a dissapointment, in the minors for about the 3rd time. Shoppach has been a really good player for the tribe and I like him a lot, but if I had to choose I'd take Victor.
    walk the bridges,.......before you burn them down
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    captainwisejam wrote:
    Victor needs to stay in Cleveland, he's a pro and one of the best on the Indians average team.

    F the Redsox, between them and the Yankees they use every other team in the majors as a minor league farm team.

    GROW SOME OF YOUR OWN DAMN TALENT!

    The Sox have only the 6th highest payroll in baseball this year. So don't lump them in the with the Yankees. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • captainwisejamcaptainwisejam Posts: 229
    The Sox are not as bad as the Yankees, but still have a shitpile of money and CAN do just about anything they want when it comes to getting talent from smaller market teams. They do it in a different way though, not just signing big name free agents but by making good deals with other teams(Jason Bay) I do have more respect with how they handle their buisness.
    walk the bridges,.......before you burn them down
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    I hope this doesn't happen cause I like Tek and how he handles the Sox pitching staff. BTW didn't Tek sign a 2 year contract?

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  • Drop The Leash 10Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    g under p wrote:
    I hope this doesn't happen cause I like Tek and how he handles the Sox pitching staff. BTW didn't Tek sign a 2 year contract?

    Peace
    1 year with an option for 2010
    I will be what i could be
    Once I get out of this town


    9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    captainwisejam wrote:
    The Sox are not as bad as the Yankees, but still have a shitpile of money and CAN do just about anything they want when it comes to getting talent from smaller market teams. They do it in a different way though, not just signing big name free agents but by making good deals with other teams(Jason Bay) I do have more respect with how they handle their buisness.

    Most of their moves are not big free agent signings - that's the popular misconception about them.

    Their biggest free agent signings the last decade:

    2009: Smoltz off an injury

    2008: an over the hill Sean Casey

    2007: oft injured J.D. Drew and Julio Lugo who no one considers a star (Dice K was technically not a free agent - he was purchased from Japan and Japanese pitchers are no sure thing - case in point the Yankees paying a ton for Kei Igawa that same year)

    2006: Julian Tavarez

    2005: David Wells, Matt Clement and Edgar Renteria - Wells was over the hill and Renteria had some nice season but none of the three are stars

    2004: Keith Foulke - who was one of the best closers that year but had made only one all star team when he signed as a free agent (Schilling was traded for that offseason)

    2003: David Ortiz - who was released by the Twins and not a great slugger as of yet - well was a great slugger ;) Kevin Millar, Ramiro Mendoza and Mike Timlin were the other notable signings that offseason

    2002: Carlos Baerga and a 42 year old Rickey Henderson

    2001: Manny Ramirez

    So you have to go back to before Theo took over as gm and back 9 seasons since the Red Sox signed a major free agent.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Solat13 wrote:
    captainwisejam wrote:
    The Sox are not as bad as the Yankees, but still have a shitpile of money and CAN do just about anything they want when it comes to getting talent from smaller market teams. They do it in a different way though, not just signing big name free agents but by making good deals with other teams(Jason Bay) I do have more respect with how they handle their buisness.

    Most of their moves are not big free agent signings - that's the popular misconception about them.

    2007: oft injured J.D. Drew and Julio Lugo who no one considers a star (Dice K was technically not a free agent - he was purchased from Japan and Japanese pitchers are no sure thing - case in point the Yankees paying a ton for Kei Igawa that same year)


    So you have to go back to before Theo took over as gm and back 9 seasons since the Red Sox signed a major free agent.

    Wait a minute ...

    The Sox put up $51M for the rights just to sign Matsuzaka ... money they would get back if he didn't sign with the Sox, but, since he did sign, the Sox paid that money to the Seibu Lions.

    The contract he signed was 6 years at $52M

    That's over $100M invested over 6 years. Semantics aside, I'd call this a major free agent signing.


    That said, the Sox have been pretty frugal when compared to their heated rivals to the south ....

    Opening day total payroll:

    Red Sox:
    2009: $121,745,999
    2008: $133,390,035
    2007: $143,026,214
    2006: $120,099,824
    2005: $123,505,125
    2004: $127,298,500
    2003: $ 99,946,500
    2002: $108,366,060
    2001: $110,035,883

    Yankees:
    2009: $201,449,189
    2008: $209,081,577
    2007: $189,639,045
    2006: $194,663,079
    2005: $208,306,817
    2004: $184,193,950
    2003: $152,749,814
    2002: $125,928,583
    2001: $112,287,143
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
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