what's wrong with housing gitmo suspects in the US?
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AS Jon Stewert put it, "these guys aren't warlocks".
they're just people. we house guys much, much worse than these terror "suspects".
what's wrong with building a prison, giving them fair trials, and ending all of this torture bullshit?
they're just people. we house guys much, much worse than these terror "suspects".
what's wrong with building a prison, giving them fair trials, and ending all of this torture bullshit?
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but I dont get it either. put them in some supermax prison and give them a trial.
...And be done with them one way or another. Find out who did what or if they did nothing at all but this on going scenario is ridiculous.
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We've got some hard ass, hard core, tatted up gang member killers and some real psychos in our prisons. Let them spend their time with those guys and waterborading will seem like a day at the water slide park.
Hail, Hail!!!
No shit. The republicans act like it'd be terrifyingly dangerous to have these guys in our prisons. You've got to be joking. These guys are tame compared to some of our inmates. And they're going to get FUCKED up in an American prison... I actually don't see many of them surviving to trial inside. We have far more dangerous people free in our neighborhoods than these yahoos.
I don't see the big deal with putting them in our prison system either.
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I know... I hear all this, "Not in my West Virgina" and "Not in my Nebraska" bullshit from these pussy politicians and I say, "Fuck you, you pussy and fuck your fucking pussy state!!! Bring 'em to fucking California and drop them off in Pelican Bay with fucking gang hardened killers who are the worst convicts in the prisons who are too fucking violent to be in regular prison.".
There are guys who have eaten people in our prisons!!! Guys who can make a fucking Samurai sword from a Dixie cup, some thread and a paper clip and slice open your carotid artery!!! We already HAVE a bunch of fucking scary people in our prisons... a lot scarier than that fat-ass Sheik Belushi dude.
Hail, Hail!!!
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all the congress idiots are saying "not in my backyard" etc,thought i could get a few takers.
Hahahaha, yeah, I saw that.
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Maybe... But I doubt it cos it would cost more to keep Gitmo running then it would to just put them in that super Max that Barry mentioned during his last press conference. I think it's in Colorado.They do need to be tried and convicted so when can move on IMO
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http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/0 ... detainees/
Montana town offers to take Gitmo detainees.
Hardin, Montana - a very small, very poor town with a very new, very empty jail, is willing to take on the responsibility of holding Gitmo detainees:
Hardin borrowed $27 million through bonds to build the Two Rivers Regional Correctional Facility in hopes of creating new employment opportunities. The jail was ready for prisoners two years ago, but has yet to house a single prisoner.
People here say politics in the capital of Helena has kept it empty. But the city council last month voted 5-0 to back a proposal to bring Gitmo detainees — some of the most hardened terrorists in the world — to the facility.
Montanan Senators (both of whom are Democrats) wet themselves in response:
The state’s congressional leaders have lined up against the plan. “Housing potential terrorists in Montana is not good for our state,” Max Baucus, the state’s senior Democratic senator, wrote to [economic development director Greg Smith]. “These people stop at nothing. Their primary goal in life, and death, is to destroy America.”
Adds Sen. Jon Tester, “I just don’t think it’s appropriate, that’s all. I don’t think they know what they’re asking for.”
Of course, they know what they’re asking for. They’re asking for the state government to cough up some regular prisoners to house at Hardin so that the town could generate some revenue and maybe pay off its bond. Failing that, they’re advertising - and if you don’t think that there’s money in prison facilities, go talk to the hardcore Left: they have a bee in their bonnet on the subject, as a Google search of the phrase “prison industry” will quickly determine.
Of course, the same groups are busily trumpeting out their support of Hardin, MT without quite realizing that the town is mostly trying to get the word out that they can service a contract to incarcerate a few hundred drug dealers and car thieves - not to mention embarrass its Democratic governor and Senators. At least, that’s why I assume this bit at the end:
Smith voices disdain for members of Congress who supported closing Guantanamo but now oppose putting its prisoners in the U.S.
“All of the senators are running for the hills, and all of the representatives. So we really are nowhere except we’ve got a town that says, ‘We have the place and we have the will.’ “
Well played, Mr. Smith. Well played.
And yet, we're against waterboarding ...
for the least they could possibly do
So long as they are still at Gitmo, it's easy to see them as enemy combatants and to try them using military tribunals. Which is what I think the powers-that-be ultimately want.
for the least they could possibly do
Good point.
Nothing. As Obama and others have noted, no one has ever escaped from one of our supermax facilities in the US. Just give them trials and if found guilty off they go.
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Clean hands my man. I don't like our government cold-bloodedly and calculatingly torturing people. It's a power too dangerous to give them the opportunity to abuse. But you lock them up, that's fair. And what happens to them inside... well, if it's good enough for our own citizens, it's good enough for the terrorists.