Whats the real deal with diet soda?

Spot In The SkySpot In The Sky Posts: 1,175
edited May 2009 in All Encompassing Trip
Is it really that big of a difference? I feel like there is more to the story and Im sure your combined knowledge may have the truth. There was a point in my life where I was monitoring my weight VERY closely, checking 2-4 times a day and I found there wasnt much difference from regular soda to diet but when i stopped altogether it was a HUGE difference, so is diet really that much better for you, or just a lesser of two evils?
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  • DangDangDangDang Posts: 1,551
    Can't explain why eliminating DIET soda would result in weight loss.

    I remember when soda used to say "one calorie". When I split a soda with a friend, we wondered who got it. Then my friend said "maybe it stuck to the side of the can".

    Anyway, diet soda has artificial sweetener which very seriously messes with your neuro-transmitters. Those are those specks which carry information dust particles from one neuron to another in your brain (and they told two neurons and so on and so on). So maybe eliminating that neural disregulation, your other systems have become regulated. :idea:

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  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    From a calorie perspective it makes a HUGE difference. A 20oz soda can have 230 calories a bottle. From a health perspective, I would say neither are a good choice.
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    It's all marketing bulls**t.
    Take away the sugar, add some artificial sweetener which is just as bad if not worse for you.
    And the weight remains.
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  • washedinblack91washedinblack91 Posts: 3,078
    i'm preeeeetty sure artificial sweeteners aren't bad for you. i remember hearing about some kind of test they did on rats or something where they injected them with aspartame and they got sick and people assumed artificial sweeteners were bad, but they later found out the dosage they gave them was the same amount humans would consume (or something to that effect, i know it was a large amount). of course humans are drastically larger than rats so i guess if you consumed gallons of aspartame in one sitting you might have something wrong with you too :D
    as for the fact that when you stopped drinking soda altogether, diet or otherwise, you lost weight, there could be a number of things at play here. first of all it's correlational, it might have been something else that caused the weight loss, not actually stopping drinking diet soda. secondly, the fact that you were drinking diet may have led you to (whether it was subconscious or not) consume more sweet things and convince yourself you were allowed one more piece of cake because you weren't drinking regular anymore. or it could be something else.
    i don't believe diet soda is bad for you, but it certainly isn't nutritious. and don't be fooled into thinking juice is a whole lot better; it may have vitamins but it still has sugar/calories.
    i've seen medical shows where people have shed a lot of pounds just by switching from regular to diet. just think, if you switch from a 20oz regular coke at each meal to a 20oz diet coke which has 0 calories, you're cutting about 700 calories a day from that switch alone.
    of course i'm not an expert on this stuff and i could very well be wrong, but that's just all the stuff i've gathered over the years from my parents who went to medical school and are avid diet coke drinkers :D
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  • surfanddestroysurfanddestroy Posts: 2,786
    It shocks me that people drink so much soda that it can actually have any affect on their diet and weight.
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  • Cinnamon GirlCinnamon Girl Posts: 1,854
    I drink Diet Coke every day....too much honestly. I would hate to think what I'd look like if it wasn't Diet. At the same time all that aspartame is probably going to come back and kick me one day.

    When I worked at a corner store there was a woman who would come in every day and buy 4 bottles of CocaCola. I'm not saying it was the ONLY reason, but she was over weight and had the worst rotted teeth EVER!! Her kids were obese and would buy junk food everyday as well. She was so sweet though, and I just wanted to tell her to stop with all the CocaCola and all the shit! But I figured it wasn't my place, since my job was to peddle all that horrible (yet delicious) food.

    I just really felt bad for the kids. :( Bad habits.
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    of course the sugar calories will not help your diet. but i've read that diet sodas have a weight retaining agent found in i believe aspertine.
    ill look this up when im not so busy
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    of course the sugar calories will not help your diet. but i've read that diet sodas have a weight retaining agent found in i believe aspertine.
    ill look this up when im not so busy
    back to work



    i think the issue that has been studied about diet soda is that the aspartame fools your body into thinking it's consuming sugar, and then when it doesn't actually GEt the sugar, it holds onto more calories and/or it makes you crave carbs and thus many overeat. i think it's something along those lines anyway b/c i've read quite a few things about it.


    that said, in the purest sense, you take in fewer calories you lose weight. so as someone else mentioned if you make the switch from regular soda to diet, and change nothing else about your diet.....you will lose weight. even if you cut out only one can of soda a day, at about 240 calories....i think you'd lose close to 10 pounds in a year. just by getting rid of one soda, and not adding/altering anything else in your diet. too often, people sabotage their health and diets by replacing foods from one bad thing to another. i think too for people with sugar issues, diabetes or risk factors for such.....regular soda or too much fruit juice, a no-no...so diet soda is a good replacement to sate your desire for a soda. but sure, diet or non, one shouldn't consume that much of ANYthing on a daily basis.

    btw - i love, love, love diet coke. loved it since HS. i find regular soda too sweet for my tastes. i used to drink a ton of it, then at least one can a day. nowadays i barely have it at all. or if i do, 1-2 cans over the weekend. i find i love it and want it more in warmer weather....i find it quenches my thirst even more than water it seems. weird i know. that said, i do try to keep my consumption low b/c i too believe too much of anything not so good....and aspartame is in sooo many foods besides diet soda.
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    what she said.. :)

    when i switched to diet coke when i was a chubby teenager i started losing weight.
    well after i gave up ranch dressing.
    i switched to ranch instead of mayonaise :oops:
  • of course the sugar calories will not help your diet. but i've read that diet sodas have a weight retaining agent found in i believe aspertine.
    ill look this up when im not so busy
    back to work



    i think the issue that has been studied about diet soda is that the aspartame fools your body into thinking it's consuming sugar, and then when it doesn't actually GEt the sugar, it holds onto more calories and/or it makes you crave carbs and thus many overeat. i think it's something along those lines anyway b/c i've read quite a few things about it.

    I believe it.

    I just spent two months staying at my mom's in between moves. Her house is a sober house and I love beer. I thought for sure that I was going to lose weight simply because I wasn't drinking beer. Instead, I gained like five frickin' pounds. :o :evil:
    I wasn't drinking beer, but I was lovin' the Diet Coke.
    If I'm gonna sport a spare tire, I really rather it be thanks to beer. :D
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    of course the sugar calories will not help your diet. but i've read that diet sodas have a weight retaining agent found in i believe aspertine.
    ill look this up when im not so busy
    back to work



    i think the issue that has been studied about diet soda is that the aspartame fools your body into thinking it's consuming sugar, and then when it doesn't actually GEt the sugar, it holds onto more calories and/or it makes you crave carbs and thus many overeat. i think it's something along those lines anyway b/c i've read quite a few things about it.

    I believe it.

    I just spent two months staying at my mom's in between moves. Her house is a sober house and I love beer. I thought for sure that I was going to lose weight simply because I wasn't drinking beer. Instead, I gained like five frickin' pounds. :o :evil:
    I wasn't drinking beer, but I was lovin' the Diet Coke.
    If I'm gonna sport a spare tire, I really rather it be thanks to beer. :D



    i'm sure right along with that, your eating habits changed as well. drinking diet soda, as in the ONLY change...will not cause you to gain weight......just makes you more susceptible to ewanting to eat more, specifically carbs/sweets. if you gave up beer, drank diet soda and altered absolutely nothing else about your eating and exercise, more than likely...you'd have dropped a few. maybe. 2 months really isn't that long, and do you drink THAt much beer, regularly? :P your food intake and/or your exercise habits, were more than likely altered as well as the introduction if diet coke while abstaining from beer. just sayin'....it's never an absolutely simple thing, unless one is 100% certain nothing else has changed.



    i went from my rather sloth-like lifestyle ;)...to walking approx 45 minutes 5x a week....thought for sure i'd lose a couple pounds, and nada. perhaps i got more exercise in my former career than i thought, compensating for my daily exercise now, but more sedentary job? perhaps i unconsciously upped my caloric intake along with my increase in physical activity? who knows. such changes/affects can be subtle.....
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    alright heres how i got in shape.
    vodka and diet mountain dew.
    get your buzz and your sweet tooth with only like 80 calories a serving (my serving is like 200 but hey)

    just gotta learn to work out hungover(this is if you're an alchoholic )..but working out to justify your drinking already categorizes an alchoholic..
    anyways


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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Ok - I'm gonna share a marketing secret that I've wanted to do, if I ever got into marketing.

    You know how food labels need to have calories, and it can't be THAT exact all the time? So there has to be a grace of a few calories... right?

    Here we go:
    Negative 1 Cola

    The one and only cola that is actually negative in calories!

    ...you just make the top a little hard to open, and voila! 1 calorie expended by the time you're done with the soda!

    Who's with me? (...awaiting hand slap...)
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  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    It shocks me that people drink so much soda that it can actually have any affect on their diet and weight.

    My exact thoughts.

    If only people saw what really goes into a can of soda. I felt so much better when I stopped drinking soda completely.
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,301
    I rarely drink any soda.

    I much prefer water, beer, wine, and coffee. Not particularly in that order. hehehe
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    mca47 wrote:
    I rarely drink any soda.

    I much prefer water, beer, wine, and coffee. Not particularly in that order. hehehe

    Yeah, those are my four most consumed liquids as well...also juice :)
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  • DangDangDangDang Posts: 1,551
    CJMST3K wrote:
    ...you just make the top a little hard to open, and voila! 1 calorie expended by the time you're done with the soda!

    Who's with me? (...awaiting hand slap...)


    Hand slap? Lean in a little bit so I can slap you in the face too. :(


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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    Actually about 6 or 7 months ago I started drinking strictly water, though I have maybe a soda a day now. I drank quite a bit of gatorade and some soda before that, not alot, just hardly any water. Well, I lost 10-15 lbs almost immediately...... I don't really exercise much and my eating habits didn't really change, which became more of a challenge when I quit smoking a few months ago.

    I dunno how anybody can drink diet soda. It tastes so bad.... I'd recommend drinking more water and when you wanna soda have the real thing. Works out pretty good for me and I don't have much will power.

    Drinking a big bottle of water after a rough night feels so good. It's like you can feel it washin away all the beer shits and bong resin.

    Screw diet soda
  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    Is it really that big of a difference? I feel like there is more to the story and Im sure your combined knowledge may have the truth. There was a point in my life where I was monitoring my weight VERY closely, checking 2-4 times a day and I found there wasnt much difference from regular soda to diet but when i stopped altogether it was a HUGE difference, so is diet really that much better for you, or just a lesser of two evils?


    Just cut out soda all together and you will loose so much weight. And feel so much better too.
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  • _Crazy_Mary__Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Ok - I'm gonna share a marketing secret that I've wanted to do, if I ever got into marketing.

    You know how food labels need to have calories, and it can't be THAT exact all the time? So there has to be a grace of a few calories... right?

    Here we go:
    Negative 1 Cola

    The one and only cola that is actually negative in calories!

    ...you just make the top a little hard to open, and voila! 1 calorie expended by the time you're done with the soda!

    Who's with me? (...awaiting hand slap...)

    that is pretty good!
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
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