Does it piss you off?

Thoughts_Arrive

When people download music or ask you to burn them a copy of an album you purchased?
Especially when they say they are fans of bands but don't purchase the albums!
Or when they criticize you for purchasing an album you have downloaded or telling you you can download it for free.

Some people just do not appreciate music enough and do not understand why diehard fans will buy the albums.
Nothing beats holding a physical copy, the excitement of rushing after school or work to buy a new album.

Hub.

That's what one of my friends once told me and I answered that, when you love a film or a band, it's fair to pay for it (even I you downloaded it before).

I know some people who haven't bought any media for years.

The pupils I work with have the same behaviour, and that's very sad.

Thoughts_Arrive

None of my friends except one who has a passion for music buys the cd's.
And they don't listen to albums start to finish, just shuffle.
Sad, very sad.

Hub.

I download a lot, but when I love something, I consider it's worth buying it. But I also dowloaded things that weren't as good as I expected.

The saddest thing is when friends are in the 30's or 40's: they've been educated with the Vinyl and the CD. They once were used to buy them and suddenly, they stopped.

philthehip

I will make no secret of the fact that I download music, but I also buy alot too. I use downloads as a way of testing to see if I like. Changing rooms are the same thing in my view. A friend and I were having quite a heated debate about this. He does not buy albums apart from certain times. I told him I thought he was somehow robbing the bands he proposes to love and support. He came back with a pretty convincing argument. His justification for this sis the simple fact he will be at PJ for both UK shows, will spend obscene amounts of money on T-shirts, hotels, drinks, food, concert tickets. PJ is a pretty poor example though because he has all the PJ cds. But he unlike myself does not own all the NIN albums but is still going to 4 shows on their tour. I am going to 1. He also said that he will buy cds from live shows and pay more. We were at a blues show recently and both bought the new album for £15 which is more than on Amazon, but we would both rather spend more to make sure the artist was recieving a fair chunk of the money.Anyway as usual Im rambling. My main point is that I dont feel we can judge ppl who mainly download quite so easily. My friend is a dedicated fan of many bands. He just supports them in the way he sees as being right

Thoughts_Arrive

Yeah if it wasn't for downloading music I would have never gotten into many bands, including Pearl Jam.
I downloaded Ten years ago after a fellow Pearl Jam fan told me start with Ten, it took a while to grow on me as I was out and out punk rock and used to the fast raw music that is punk rock.
But since then I love all other music and ended up buying Ten & Vs at the same time years ago.

If I didn't have internet I'd never have been exposed to so much great music, most of which I own legitimately.
What more can be worse than spending your hard earned money (especially if you do not earn much) on something that sucks, better to try before you buy!

halszka123

Hub. wrote:

That's what one of my friends once told me and I answered that, when you love a film or a band, it's fair to pay for it (even I you downloaded it before).
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Well said.
I feel the same.
I download the music and not only music - for two reasons:
1. cds are still too expensive to buy just everything You want. So first I dl sth, listen it and if it's worth my money, I buy it.
I think world changes. In past - first we paid for vinyls, cds, books, now people treat this stuff like other things we buy - when I buy a cloth, I try it if it fits me or not, then i buy...I think this should be normal when we talk about books, music etc. too.
2. yes, when I love sth, I respect the work which some people put to create i.e. music. it's normal behaviour i want to pay for it. It makes me feel right.

BTW. I have to say that all the case with Pirate Bay is wrong. Just like some agency showed music or movie industry don't lose money when people dl stuff from internet. I am sure - if I couldn't dl some things I would never be able to pay for it, so the only matter is that i wouldn't know about some atrists. That's all.

One more... First time I had chance to listen Ten - that copy was illegal too. My friend lent me...it was in '93. It was not from internet, but pirate way to get sth lives for a while:)

peacegirl

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

Nothing beats holding a physical copy, the excitement of rushing after school or work to buy a new album.

That's why I still buy CD's - I love having the physical copy with the artwork, lyrics, etc.

12345AGNST1

I'm the only one of my entire friends that actually buys cd's and listens to the entire album from start to finish.
I actually hardly EVER shuffle my music. When I want to listen to music I htink of what album I want to listen to, not hit song.

arq

I "test" all my music before i buy it and if i don't like it is deleted immediately, i don't have time to listen to music i don't really really like and i don't like to have it on my hard drive just to "have it", even if i "kind" of like it is deleted, but when i'm really into it i buy the CD and the vinyl, i'm not too much of a Itunes buyer because i like to have the copy in my hands and take a look into the lyrics, you know the usual. So the music companies don't hate me but they don't love me either :roll:

Jennytree

I don't buy any music really. I will pay for Pearl Jam stuff, just about. If I like the music, then I will go see them in a show - that means more to me than buying a CD.

PearlOfAGirl

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

When people download music or ask you to burn them a copy of an album you purchased?
Especially when they say they are fans of bands but don't purchase the albums!
Or when they criticize you for purchasing an album you have downloaded or telling you you can download it for free.

Some people just do not appreciate music enough and do not understand why diehard fans will buy the albums.
Nothing beats holding a physical copy, the excitement of rushing after school or work to buy a new album.

If anyone asked me, I'd give them a big fat NO!!! :evil:

PJGARDEN

I don't do it and most of my friends know that. I have actually gotten a few PMs here on this board from people I have never talked to, asking me to download an album for them. Usually stems from something I have posted in Other Music. They get a No as well. Trading boots or stuff that has never been released is one thing but don't ask for a full, officially released album.

libragirl

I guess I could understand why people download music or get copies from people. It doesn't really bother me, although personally I prefer to buy the album. I like getting the liner notes and stuff. I also don't mind making copies of my cds for people.

redmosquito10

i usually have nor problem burning a cd for my friends because to be honest, it's the only way they're ever going to have it. There's absolutely no chance of them going out and actually buying the music, so if I have the chance to spread good music, I do it, and think the world's a better place for it.

lephty

i was once a die-hard pay for music person and bugged my friends all the time when they would download everything. i still buy some music but i have to LOVE the band in order to want to do that.

my reasoning?

music = art
i can look at pictures of "some painting" online for free. if i really loved "Some painting", i would try to buy a print and put it up somewhere.

if i really love a band, i would most likely try to see them live. TV on the radio for example. I knew nothing about them a month ago. they were a band i heard of is all. my friend is a fan and saw that they were playing in NY and asked if i wanted to go. so i went to a torrent site, downloaded the discography since it was there and listened and loved. i am now a fan of a band i knew nothing about but i am paying to see them live!

i think NIN and Radiohead are on the right track for musicians to make money. limited release and signed copies will make the die hard fans have to buy them.

IMO, when record companies are extinct, music will grow to be better. people will not be in it for a quick buck by being signed. they will have to work to gain and keep fans a lot harder

g under p

I'm NOT into the downloading of albums and such. I like to have the physical album in my hands like today I bought Green Day's new album for $9.99 and WILL search for a sale. They're only two bands I'll travel to go and see and that's Michael Franti & Spearhead (Belgium, France, England & Ireland, Mass-FL) also RUSH (Florida, VA, MD, DC and NY).

I have the means to download but I prefer to buy the official album release. I have accepted new music from new bands from offers from friends just get into something new. Sometimes that's the only way I'll try new music I've never heard before.

Peace

Jeanwah

I don't mind burning music for friends because music is meant to be shared.

What bugs me is how kids now will buy songs and not albums or buy the album and only listen to their favorite releases. You gotta listen to the entire album to get to know the band.

FinsburyParkCarrots

You AET people are needed in tiny local venues buying CDs from struggling artists playing you gigs, instead of sitting indoors all night and pontificating on message boards about the albums you bought or chose not to buy by signed - and probably pretty mainstream - bands.

Wait ... the ones you're not likely to discover on Last FM just like that don't count? You think every talented unsigned artist is going to go on iTunes or a philanthropic free label, float to the top on their songs alone, and party like it's 2007?


Stop even having this conversation, and go out and support music from the bottom up. If you're a CD-buyer or a downloader, your interest in new live music stops lazy A&R and promoters - the real culprits - from killing the business.


Yep, I'm a musician.

in_hiding79

My sister burned me one song on a CD of Kid Rock and Sheryl Crow's "picture"....it wasn't available on itunes and I like that song! Plus the rest of the music on the album sucked some serious ass: )

Thoughts_Arrive

Jeanwah wrote:

I don't mind burning music for friends because music is meant to be shared.

What bugs me is how kids now will buy songs and not albums or buy the album and only listen to their favorite releases. You gotta listen to the entire album to get to know the band.

Yeah same.
The stupid shuffle generation.
Shuffle is for people with short attention spans and lack of attention to fine detail in music.
Technology is killing music.