Ready or Not, Katrina Victims Lose Temporary Housing

Ms. Haiku

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/us/08 ... ted=2&_r=1

OffHeGoes29

Almost 4 years is enough time to get your life back on track

blackredyellow

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

Almost 4 years is enough time to get your life back on track

Yeah... I'm all for helping people out, but 4 years later?

philthehip

blackredyellow wrote:

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

Almost 4 years is enough time to get your life back on track

Yeah... I'm all for helping people out, but 4 years later?

Well you people have just reminded me why I dont like people

puremagic

You'd think 4 years and millions of dollars in federal aid and millions of donated dollars from around the world would have built suitable housing, repaired roads, repaired partially damaged homes, and repaired Charity Hospital so that people would be ready to move out of hotels, trailers and shelters; and get back to living their lives in New Orleans.

Yet, 4 years later, people are still trailers, hotels and shelters. People are still spread across the U.S. in various States waiting to come home. Homes which haven't been foreclosed on or torn down. Homes for which insurance companies don't have to pay out money for repair or replacement.

Yes, 4 years is a long time, yet the Saints are playing in the Superdome, the Mardi Gras still went on, and Bourbon Street is still the place to party. Yes, 4 years is a long time to wonder why a person would want to, willingly stay in a trailer, a hotel, or a shelter.

Ms. Haiku

Of course the following information from the article negates the idea that these services were available for 4 years:

Though more than 4,000 Louisiana homeowners have received rebuilding money only in the last six months, or are struggling with inadequate grants or no money at all, FEMA is intent on taking away their trailers by the end of May.

No matter what, if 99.999999% of those that survived Katrina were able to get back on their feet given the resources available, those ultimately removed from services without a direction reflect a sad story, and not just because they reflect groups consistently marginalized by society i.e., "elderly, disabled or both." It is a story to look into further, eh? To see how those that fall through the cracks for whatever reason are able to survive.

It is interesting that NYT wrote the article. Definitely a bigger readership than a volunteer watchdog media group, eh? Anyone have a good article written by an independent media group on this subject?

Commy

4 years is not enough time


half the people couldn't get fema relief after the hurricane anyway. how can you show proof of residency if your house is no longer there? a lot of people got shafted.

and the few that did keep their houses saw rent double, as the banks were jacking up rent to cover the loss of income from other areas. So, no job, no help from the go'vt, rising rent, no home no peace no rest.

the real disaster happened after the storm had passed.


within a few weeks the casinos and tourist industry was right back at it, a hotel even put out a video that they filmed pre-Katrina, as it "was accurate". meaning they didn't get touched by the hurricane. but they got relief.


others were treated like prisoners, some people were told NOT to donate, as it would create unfair environment, some people would get clothes, others wouldn't-can't have that. and Cuban relief was turned down, even as people were still homeless and hungry.

there was one incident of a large group of people, about 40, being turned away from a navy military base-as armed guards pointed loaded weapons at them. women and children....all turned away to sleep on sidewalks. and the base was nearly empty, it was in the process of being closed down. thousands of empty dorm rooms. "oh you're poor? go away."


fight the war, fuck the poor.

philthehip

I wonder if the £1000.00 we raised at our garden centre ever got near the ppl who needed it. Human beings dont matter to our governments and im afraid mr obama is no different, he just has a nicer smile than bush

WaveCameCrashin

What about all the thugs that got money from the federal govt and pissed it all away on drugs and strip clubs, what about all the people that trashed hotel rooms that we the tax payers paid for. to the point where they had to be completely renovated. should we give them more time? I dont think so . You can take a thug out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of a thug. some these people were nothing more than criminals and they wiil try to get as much money from the govt. for as long as they possibly can.

WaveCameCrashin

Commy wrote:

4 years is not enough time


half the people couldn't get fema relief after the hurricane anyway. how can you show proof of residency if your house is no longer there? a lot of people got shafted.

and the few that did keep their houses saw rent double, as the banks were jacking up rent to cover the loss of income from other areas. So, no job, no help from the go'vt, rising rent, no home no peace no rest.

the real disaster happened after the storm had passed.


within a few weeks the casinos and tourist industry was right back at it, a hotel even put out a video that they filmed pre-Katrina, as it "was accurate". meaning they didn't get touched by the hurricane. but they got relief.


others were treated like prisoners, some people were told NOT to donate, as it would create unfair environment, some people would get clothes, others wouldn't-can't have that. and Cuban relief was turned down, even as people were still homeless and hungry.

there was one incident of a large group of people, about 40, being turned away from a navy military base-as armed guards pointed loaded weapons at them. women and children....all turned away to sleep on sidewalks. and the base was nearly empty, it was in the process of being closed down. thousands of empty dorm rooms. "oh you're poor? go away."


fight the war, fuck the poor.

:roll:

How full of shit can you possibly be ? Please stop making shit up

philthehip

prfctlefts wrote:

Commy wrote:

4 years is not enough time


half the people couldn't get fema relief after the hurricane anyway. how can you show proof of residency if your house is no longer there? a lot of people got shafted.

and the few that did keep their houses saw rent double, as the banks were jacking up rent to cover the loss of income from other areas. So, no job, no help from the go'vt, rising rent, no home no peace no rest.

the real disaster happened after the storm had passed.


within a few weeks the casinos and tourist industry was right back at it, a hotel even put out a video that they filmed pre-Katrina, as it "was accurate". meaning they didn't get touched by the hurricane. but they got relief.


others were treated like prisoners, some people were told NOT to donate, as it would create unfair environment, some people would get clothes, others wouldn't-can't have that. and Cuban relief was turned down, even as people were still homeless and hungry.

there was one incident of a large group of people, about 40, being turned away from a navy military base-as armed guards pointed loaded weapons at them. women and children....all turned away to sleep on sidewalks. and the base was nearly empty, it was in the process of being closed down. thousands of empty dorm rooms. "oh you're poor? go away."


fight the war, fuck the poor.

:roll:

How full of shit can you possibly be ? Please stop making shit up

Well substantiated there my friend lol

Commy

philthehip wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

How full of shit can you possibly be ? Please stop making shit up

Well substantiated there my friend lol

lol.




imperfect lefts----

find something specific you think is untrue about my post, i'll cite it, you can realize you're incorrect as usual, and we can all go about our business.

WaveCameCrashin

Everything you posted is damn lie . Grow up.

Commy

prfctlefts wrote:

Everything you posted is damn lie . Grow up.

lol.


anything specific you want to go over?





most of what I posted was from this documentary...

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/ ... the.water/

Camera was on during the storm. And after, which is what the documentary is really about.


Find something specific.

WaveCameCrashin

Commy wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

Everything you posted is damn lie . Grow up.

lol.


anything specific you want to go over?





most of what I posted was from this documentary...

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/ ... the.water/

Camera was on during the storm. And after, which is what the documentary is really about.


Find something specific.[/ququote]


Yeah most of what you posted :roll:

Okay your last paragraph about women and children being turned away at gunpoint .That was nowhere in that article you posted .As usual you take shit out of context or make it up commy . I bet you think we blew up the levies just like Lewis Farrakhan said huh.

Byrnzie

prfctlefts wrote:

What about all the thugs that got money from the federal govt and pissed it all away on drugs and strip clubs, what about all the people that trashed hotel rooms that we the tax payers paid for. to the point where they had to be completely renovated. should we give them more time? I dont think so . You can take a thug out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of a thug. some these people were nothing more than criminals and they wiil try to get as much money from the govt. for as long as they possibly can.

Thugs and criminals. I remember thinking that this was why America allowed the people of New Orleans to sink - something about racism and a failed, corrupt government and media.

Byrnzie

prfctlefts wrote:

What about all the thugs that got money from the federal govt and pissed it all away on drugs and strip clubs, what about all the people that trashed hotel rooms that we the tax payers paid for. to the point where they had to be completely renovated. should we give them more time? I dont think so . You can take a thug out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of a thug. some these people were nothing more than criminals and they wiil try to get as much money from the govt. for as long as they possibly can.

It must really pain some people that Bush is no longer at the helm.
Ah well, there's always the Klan.

Commy

prfctlefts wrote:

Okay your last paragraph about women and children being turned away at gunpoint .That was nowhere in that article you posted .As usual you take shit out of context or make it up commy . I bet you think we blew up the levies just like Lewis Farrakhan said huh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwYyfqEcKh0


about 1:10


in the actual documentary they interview Navy guards at the base....and they admit they turned away people in the aftermath of Katrina, including women and children. i can't post the entire thing here. but you get the idea from the clip above.

inmytree

blackredyellow wrote:

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

Almost 4 years is enough time to get your life back on track

Yeah... I'm all for helping people out, but 4 years later?

I'm with you on this. I guess that makes me a bad person. Is the gov't failing these folks...maybe, are they failing themselves...I'd have to say that I think they are...

I have to wonder, how long should FEMA keep housing these folks...? Aren't people suppose to eventually take responsibility for themselves...?

I think it's a two way street and all the blame can't be by put on FEMA...

SPEEDY MCCREADY

I didnt feel sorry for these fucking crack heads 4 years ago.....

and I certainly dont feel sorry for them now............

decides2dream

Ms. Haiku wrote:

Of course the following information from the article negates the idea that these services were available for 4 years:

Though more than 4,000 Louisiana homeowners have received rebuilding money only in the last six months, or are struggling with inadequate grants or no money at all, FEMA is intent on taking away their trailers by the end of May.

No matter what, if 99.999999% of those that survived Katrina were able to get back on their feet given the resources available, those ultimately removed from services without a direction reflect a sad story, and not just because they reflect groups consistently marginalized by society i.e., "elderly, disabled or both." It is a story to look into further, eh? To see how those that fall through the cracks for whatever reason are able to survive.

It is interesting that NYT wrote the article. Definitely a bigger readership than a volunteer watchdog media group, eh? Anyone have a good article written by an independent media group on this subject?

THAT really is key, isn't it?
we're not discussing average, able-bodied people.....but many elderly, disabled...or both.....kinds of people. more than likely, with or without katrina, these groups would always need help, then add in katrina and it is not too surprising these folks need further assistance. so sad.


new orleans is a beautiful city. it is a tragedy what has happened, and the aftermath dealing with it even worse.