Toronto show: 10Club vs. Ticketmaster cost

shepshep Houston Posts: 5,802
edited May 2009 in The Porch
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but I have to ask cause it caught my attention when I was looking around today.

I am an ex-pat Canadian currently living in Texas and my brother lives in Toronto. When I saw that Pearl Jam was doing a show at the amp, I immediately bought tickets, without even thinking about money, cause I was going to go visit my brother in Toronto the summer anyway (plus he works for amp security/venue, along with another close friend of mine who manages the security there, so I figured that might make for an extra special night)...

Anyway, all is said and done, I paid $162 US for 2 10C tickets to the show. Now I don't regret my purchase, and I can't wait to see the show, but when I was looking today at ticketmaster, I noticed that ticket prices were listed as $39.50-79.50 CAD. This represents a significant drop vs. the price that I paid for my tickets, I was just wondering what gives? I have been to a few shows since I joined the 10C in 2005, and I know the 10C provides me with the best seats to the show... but I have never noticed such a dramatic difference in the ticket prices as this.

I was just hoping to get some other people's reaction. I noticed that there are other threads talking about the price issue, so I just wanted to target these questions specifically about the Toronto show because I have not compared prices for the European or Chicago shows.

Anyway, I'll see you all in Toronto (5th) and ACL(6th show)!!! (and hopefully any other dates PJ does in Texas!)
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    The cheaper seats are probably lawn seats
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  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,289
    I think when you add the extra service charges to the $79.50 and then convert it to USD it will be pretty close in price.
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,289
    The cheaper seats are probably lawn seats

    The 39.50 is for lawn, 79.50 is for any reserved seating.
  • vic in T.O.vic in T.O. Posts: 385
    I dont see what the problem is.The 39.50 is probably for the Lawn and 79.50 are for seats in the venue.Ten club is giving you good seats for being a member so it works out roughly the same 79.50 x2
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    I dont see what the problem is.The 39.50 is probably for the Lawn and 79.50 are for seats in the venue.Ten club is giving you good seats for being a member so it works out roughly the same 79.50 x2
    +1
  • shepshep Houston Posts: 5,802
    Ok, not trying to be snarky here, but I am aware the 39.50 seats are for the lawn. I used to live in Toronto and spent 1/2 my summers at the amp.

    79.50 CAD and 81 US is a significant difference in pricing. I realize that by the time ridiculous ticketmaster surcharges are added and Ontario taxes, it will probably even out to be about the same... I'm just curious why PJ wants to take in less money for the same reserved seating. It seems a little odd doesn't it?
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  • rybesrybes Posts: 136
    As everyone else above has mentioned 79.5$ will be the charge of anything that comes close to a 10c seat, never mind the surcharges or building facility charges that you are forgetting about.

    For example an 80$ ticket for another show I'm considering comes with a 12.5$ "convenience fee" and a 2.5$ building charge.

    So in the case of Toronto.. 79.5+2.5+12.5=94.5x2=189
    so... maybe the 10c aren't too bad in price... for a better seat then you could grab from Ticketmaster.

    On top of which I'm pretty sure 10c still donates a portion of the ticket to a local charity, which I much prefer over paying TM surcharges, but that's just my 2c
  • mikesbrimikesbri Toronto Posts: 1,002
    I had a friend who bought lawns, and it came to $55.50 Cdn per ticket. Thats $16 service charge. Basically the seats at $79 will work out to the same as Fan club seats..but we get a better view :D
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  • Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,350
    10-C is offering better tickets at a lower total cost. Not sure what else there is to say.
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  • tbell_1tbell_1 Posts: 21
    1 pair 10c tickets (cad) = $195.32
    1 pair Edge presale tickets section 406 row 0 (back row) = $193.35
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  • Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,350
    tbell_1 wrote:
    1 pair 10c tickets (cad) = $195.32
    1 pair Edge presale tickets section 406 row 0 (back row) = $193.35

    Yeah, 10-C, an America-based business, is really screwing you over there, factoring in an exchange rate they can't control. I'd jump all over those inferior Edge tickets and enjoy half a soft pretzel with the cost savings.
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  • shepshep Houston Posts: 5,802
    Ok man, please stop the hate, I was just asking what others thought. I pay my yearly 10C dues, and I am grateful to have the opportunity to purchase the best seats in the house in advance of the general public. I am not trying to be a cheapskate or complaining about the price I paid for a ticket. I make good money and it was well within my price range vs. what U2 is charging for their tickets on their most recent tour. I am just curious about the situation and why they would choose to charge less for the tickets.

    I wasn't about to not buy my 10C tix and wait for Edge Presale tix to save any money no matter what the savings. In fact I will be online at ticketmaster at 2 watching for when the general sale starts just incase a 2nd "unannouced" show appears, as frequently happens when many big bangs (including PJ) play Toronto.

    However if you do the math, the difference in the price that ticketmaster and 10C charge represents a loss of anywhere from $80-86,000 US to Pearl Jam revenue for the show (amp has 9000 reserved seats - assuming 3000 for 10C vs 6000 for ticketmaster, and not including the approx 500-700 10C will have on the floor, so total approx 3500 10C tix), depending on the currency exchange rate used. I know this probably isn't a lot of money in the overall picture, but it is still a significant amount if it was being say donanted to a charitable organization. And hell, it's still more than I make in a year.
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  • Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,350
    I'm not "hating" by an means, just sick of the relentless bitching/moaning about 10-C.

    As to your last post, I'm not sure I understand. Your issue is 10-C charging less money?
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    exchage rate is huge ... i paid the same technically for EV tix and PJ tix but the differenc on my credit card is $8 ... the cdn dollar has spiked recently ...
  • lukin14lukin14 Posts: 287
    Hawk123 wrote:
    I think when you add the extra service charges to the $79.50 and then convert it to USD it will be pretty close in price.


    Yup..

    my 2 10C tickets converted to $195 CDN on my credit card statement... So at just shy of $100 a ticket, I would suspect that TM's $79.50 easily gets up to $90-95 after all their extra fees (venue fees, tax, and anything else). Considering the credit card companies don't give you the actual exact exchange rate (they make a bit on the exchange - not much, maybe 1 or 2%) I'm fairly confident that 10C's price is pretty damn close to TM's final.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,223
    lukin14 wrote:
    Hawk123 wrote:
    I think when you add the extra service charges to the $79.50 and then convert it to USD it will be pretty close in price.


    Yup..

    my 2 10C tickets converted to $195 CDN on my credit card statement... So at just shy of $100 a ticket, I would suspect that TM's $79.50 easily gets up to $90-95 after all their extra fees (venue fees, tax, and anything else). Considering the credit card companies don't give you the actual exact exchange rate (they make a bit on the exchange - not much, maybe 1 or 2%) I'm fairly confident that 10C's price is pretty damn close to TM's final.
    Plus, given the awful experience so many people seemed to have getting tickets through Ticketmaster, I'd say peace of mind should be considered in the valuation of the Ten Club tickets. I have a friend who LOVES Pearl Jam, but is not a Ten Club member, and he had two lawn seats in his cart on Ticketmaster, and was unable to purchase the tickets because of a glitch which would not allow him to enter a billing address in Canada.
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  • MANTISMANTIS Posts: 272
    Yup..i got a pair through the edge and 10c

    edge was 193.5 for sec 305.
    10C was 195.32...

    no difference

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  • mr_canadamr_canada Posts: 555
    shep wrote:
    Ok man, please stop the hate, I was just asking what others thought. I pay my yearly 10C dues, and I am grateful to have the opportunity to purchase the best seats in the house in advance of the general public. I am not trying to be a cheapskate or complaining about the price I paid for a ticket. I make good money and it was well within my price range vs. what U2 is charging for their tickets on their most recent tour. I am just curious about the situation and why they would choose to charge less for the tickets.

    I wasn't about to not buy my 10C tix and wait for Edge Presale tix to save any money no matter what the savings. In fact I will be online at ticketmaster at 2 watching for when the general sale starts just incase a 2nd "unannouced" show appears, as frequently happens when many big bangs (including PJ) play Toronto.

    However if you do the math, the difference in the price that ticketmaster and 10C charge represents a loss of anywhere from $80-86,000 US to Pearl Jam revenue for the show (amp has 9000 reserved seats - assuming 3000 for 10C vs 6000 for ticketmaster, and not including the approx 500-700 10C will have on the floor, so total approx 3500 10C tix), depending on the currency exchange rate used. I know this probably isn't a lot of money in the overall picture, but it is still a significant amount if it was being say donanted to a charitable organization. And hell, it's still more than I make in a year.

    I love how you are now concerned for Pearl Jam...you were complaining about paying more thru 10C...so funny!!! :lol::lol::lol:
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