Arnold "What if pot is legal and taxed?"

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  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    if we are typing about confusion.............where i become confused is, i read many of the messages around here and it seems to me that the "pj crowd/pearligious" want to be left alone to live their life freely.........but want many government institutions to allow them to live their life freely.

    now that is confusing.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    ajedigecko wrote:
    if we are typing about confusion.............where i become confused is, i read many of the messages around here and it seems to me that the "pj crowd/pearligious" want to be left alone to live their life freely.........but want many government institutions to allow them to live their life freely.

    now that is confusing.

    That's what confuses me too. Even this thread is about the government letting people smoke pot, but taxing them for it which just is another way of the government controlling their lives.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    taxing pot is controlling their lives???
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    its a plant.

    how do you make a plant illegal? especially this one.

    its ridiculous. they shouldn't tax it, but if that's the only way to make it legal-by all means.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Smellyman wrote:
    taxing pot is controlling their lives???

    Absolutely. Every dollar you give to the government is another dollar you won't have to spend as you wish.

    Furthermore, every program, policy and law they put in place with that tax money dictates rules and regulations to everyone affected by it. Even the people getting handouts or benefiting from programs have to follow the rules and regulations of it....and that's a form of control
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    know1 wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    My only problem with that is the "taxed" part.

    Politicians continually spout off about needing to tax this or that. Let's hold them accountable to exactly how the pot tax would fit into the current budget/spending scheme.

    Also, if they are doing it because they NEED the tax money then shame on them. I guess it's criminal (pot) until the greedy government needs the money and then it's OK...
    And here I thought you'd be antagonizing the potheads again....I agree with you whole-heartedly.
    Why do people WANT to be taxed on it? I think they would HAVE to go to an amsterdam coffee-shop setup, or at least let private companies be free to sell/package/produce what they want....too many restrictions on potency, price etc, and the black market would continue to exist....let them do what they want, tax it LIGHTLY, and sell renewable grow licenses as the main revenue source...

    I'm not going to antagonize about it's legality because I simply do not care one way or another. I'll admit that I don't look very favorably on pot users in general, but that's their business if they want to do it.

    The part that bothers me is the taxes. Now if they were going to tax it and REDUCE taxes somewhere else then they might have the start of a plan.

    Yet again if they make it legal just for tax revenue purposes, then it is extremely hypocritical....but then again the government is always extremely hypocritical so why should this be any different.

    Tax revenue is the only way to get this message thru to most non-users. 'What's in it for me?'...

    In a perfect world, people would be free to have a closet grow for themselves and a few friends that didn't want to bother, and this wouldn't even be an issue....But linking some sort of tax revenue, to be used for drug rehab ( :roll: ), and health expenses seems to be the only way to appease most non-users...

    but ya, it's a double-edged sword. If the laws become harsher for black market distribution, while only allowing heavily taxed and regulated private industry, then it's a step in the WRONG direction, imo.

    everyone needs to think critically about any legislation regarding decrim or legalization, because we KNOW the government is going to manipulate the bills in whatever fashion benefits THEM the most.

    The last attempt at decrim in Canada was a joke, pot activists saw thru it immediately (decrim bill with small fines for possession, while cracking down on large quantity/dealers/growers)....yet most people I know thought this was a GOOD thing, until the hypocrisy was spelled out for them.... People need to recognize the repercussions of TOO MUCH compromise.....then again, if you live in an area with draconian drug possession laws to begin with (we're now considering mandatory minimums last I heard), I guess you take what you can get....:(

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