Red Wings/Ducks Game 3

Music For RhinosMusic For Rhinos Posts: 1,693
edited May 2009 in All Encompassing Trip
Who watched that?

It just ended here. Man, that was BULLLLLLLLLSHIT.

DAMN.

The Wings clearly tied it up, but of course got fucked 'cuz some asshole ref "lost sight" of it....

PLEASE.

The refs have ONE job to do and that is to referee the games properly and apparently they can't even do that!

Why not just review the play for crying out loud? The Wings scored a goal.

Just complete bullshit. Really pissed off, had to say something.
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  • leafs4everleafs4ever Posts: 833
    ya man, that was horrible...

    The puck was actually in the net before the whistle blew, but the rules state that it's when the ref intends to blow the whistle.
    Definitely something that i think needs a rule change and should be made reviewable. If the video shows that it is clearly a goal, it should be a damn goal.

    Disgusting way to end a game and not something that is going to help the NHL in becoming more popular in the US.
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  • pearljimpearljim Posts: 1,312
    Watched it an hour ago on my DVR - OUCH! I'd like to see over the course of the regular season who got more goals ruled "no goal" than the Wings. I know that's who I watch the most but this is ridiculous.

    They have video replay for anything /everything but they can't look at that and say that clearly the ref made a mistake and it's a goal? Come on....I understand they don't want the goalie covering the puck and then someone comes hackin away and puts it in. But this was never covered and a replay would show it was a goal. They overturn calls all the time but this is unreviewable????

    And I'm sick of this after the whistle/game shit. Why did Getzlaf go after Franzen after the game? He should have been kissing the refs A$$!
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  • uninnocent-uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    i woulda been pissed if i was a red wings fan.

    from his line of vision, the ref believed that he made the right call. after it was made, there was no way to take it back. i'm sure he'll always second-guess himself from here on out. i'm not making excuses, but just pointing out that it wasn't done maliciously or with any mal-intent, it was human error.

    and human error will always be a part of all games.

    also, go ducks go.
  • RoughMixRoughMix back of a lorry Posts: 385
    Yeah cannot believe it.
    Jumped off the couch when that puck went in.
    Jumped even higher when it was disallowed.
    Only one term comes to mind: RIPPED OFF!
    Gotta win the next one.
    GO WINGS!!!
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    is that exactly what I thought I read."
  • Music For RhinosMusic For Rhinos Posts: 1,693
    edited May 2009
    i woulda been pissed if i was a red wings fan.

    from his line of vision, the ref believed that he made the right call. after it was made, there was no way to take it back. i'm sure he'll always second-guess himself from here on out. i'm not making excuses, but just pointing out that it wasn't done maliciously or with any mal-intent, it was human error.

    and human error will always be a part of all games.

    also, go ducks go.

    with all due respect, that's total crap.

    what do you mean there's no way to take it back? of course there is!

    plays can be reviewed and overturned. it happens all the time. the most maddening thing about what happened in game 3 is perhaps the fact that they didn't even bother to review it!

    edit: the ref was skating towards the net about to raise his whistle and "INTENDED" to blow it before hossa hit the puck. apparently, in the nhl, INTENDING to do something is just as good as ACTUALLY doing it. because commissioner gary bettman is a total asshole. he needs to be shot.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    i woulda been pissed if i was a red wings fan.

    from his line of vision, the ref believed that he made the right call. after it was made, there was no way to take it back. i'm sure he'll always second-guess himself from here on out. i'm not making excuses, but just pointing out that it wasn't done maliciously or with any mal-intent, it was human error.

    and human error will always be a part of all games.

    also, go ducks go.

    with all due respect, that's total crap.

    what do you mean there's no way to take it back? of course there is!

    plays can be reviewed and overturned. it happens all the time. the most maddening thing about what happened in game 3 is perhaps the fact that they didn't even bother to review it!

    It's not total crap... the ref lost sight of the puck (you can't see through the goalie) and he blew the play dead.
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  • RoughMixRoughMix back of a lorry Posts: 385
    i woulda been pissed if i was a red wings fan.

    from his line of vision, the ref believed that he made the right call. after it was made, there was no way to take it back. i'm sure he'll always second-guess himself from here on out. i'm not making excuses, but just pointing out that it wasn't done maliciously or with any mal-intent, it was human error.

    and human error will always be a part of all games.

    also, go ducks go.

    with all due respect, that's total crap.

    what do you mean there's no way to take it back? of course there is!

    plays can be reviewed and overturned. it happens all the time. the most maddening thing about what happened in game 3 is perhaps the fact that they didn't even bother to review it!
    The rules state that if the play is called dead by the ref it cannot be reviewed.
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  • Music For RhinosMusic For Rhinos Posts: 1,693
    i woulda been pissed if i was a red wings fan.

    from his line of vision, the ref believed that he made the right call. after it was made, there was no way to take it back. i'm sure he'll always second-guess himself from here on out. i'm not making excuses, but just pointing out that it wasn't done maliciously or with any mal-intent, it was human error.

    and human error will always be a part of all games.

    also, go ducks go.

    with all due respect, that's total crap.

    what do you mean there's no way to take it back? of course there is!

    plays can be reviewed and overturned. it happens all the time. the most maddening thing about what happened in game 3 is perhaps the fact that they didn't even bother to review it!

    It's not total crap... the ref lost sight of the puck (you can't see through the goalie) and he blew the play dead.

    no, he did not "blow the play dead." he INTENDED to blow his whistle but the whistle was not blown until AFTER the puck went in the net!

    Under Rule 78.5 per the Official NHL Rules, an instance of a disallowed goal is:
    (xii) When the Referee deems the play has been stopped, even if he had not physically had the opportunity to stop play by blowing his whistle.

    Therefore, everything after he "intended" to blow the whistle would not count. In other words, no-goal because it happened after he decided in his small brain that he would eventually blow the whistle.

    EXTREMELY LAME. nhl needs to remedy this for next season so that what happened in that game does not happen again. the red wings got ripped off, period.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889

    with all due respect, that's total crap.

    what do you mean there's no way to take it back? of course there is!

    plays can be reviewed and overturned. it happens all the time. the most maddening thing about what happened in game 3 is perhaps the fact that they didn't even bother to review it!

    It's not total crap... the ref lost sight of the puck (you can't see through the goalie) and he blew the play dead.

    no, he did not "blow the play dead." he INTENDED to blow his whistle but the whistle was not blown until AFTER the puck went in the net!

    Under Rule 78.5 per the Official NHL Rules, an instance of a disallowed goal is:
    (xii) When the Referee deems the play has been stopped, even if he had not physically had the opportunity to stop play by blowing his whistle.

    Therefore, everything after he "intended" to blow the whistle would not count. In other words, no-goal because it happened after he decided in his small brain that he would eventually blow the whistle.

    EXTREMELY LAME. nhl needs to remedy this for next season so that what happened in that game does not happen again. the red wings got ripped off, period.

    He decided to blow the whistle because he lost sight of the puck.

    So if he would have got the whistle to his lips a fraction of a second sooner (before the puck crossed the line), would you be ok with it? I'm just trying to figure out exactly what you think needs changed?
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  • Music For RhinosMusic For Rhinos Posts: 1,693
    Go to the review and listen to the whistle....puck already in the net....goal. Period.

    The fact that it didn't count is/was absurd. I understand what the rules are but the rules are horribly, horribly flawed. If a ref can't see the puck, he should call the play dead because it prevents players from bum-rushing the net and taking whacks at the goalie; however, if the puck is in the net...it NEEDS to be reviewed regardless.

    I think the game needs to change. It needs to be electronically smarter. Less human error. For instance, they could equip everyone's skates, the blue lines, various vantage points around the ice, benches, boards, nets, etc, with sensors and/or cameras...to make sure goals, off-sides, etc are called correctly. Video review on everything. No more bad calls, no more human error. It messes up too many games. I would honestly rather have my team lose FAIRLY than win UNFAIRLY.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Go to the review and listen to the whistle....puck already in the net....goal. Period.

    The fact that it didn't count is/was absurd. I understand what the rules are but the rules are horribly, horribly flawed. If a ref can't see the puck, he should call the play dead because it prevents players from bum-rushing the net and taking whacks at the goalie; however, if the puck is in the net...it NEEDS to be reviewed regardless.

    Ok, I tend to agree with that... I thought you had an issue with the play being blown dead (or at least decided to be blown dead)... I don't have a problem with reviewing it with sound, sort of like they do with the game clock in the last seconds. If the puck crosses the line before you can hear the whistle start, then it should be a goal.
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    of a sunny day
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  • Music For RhinosMusic For Rhinos Posts: 1,693
    Go to the review and listen to the whistle....puck already in the net....goal. Period.

    The fact that it didn't count is/was absurd. I understand what the rules are but the rules are horribly, horribly flawed. If a ref can't see the puck, he should call the play dead because it prevents players from bum-rushing the net and taking whacks at the goalie; however, if the puck is in the net...it NEEDS to be reviewed regardless.

    Ok, I tend to agree with that... I thought you had an issue with the play being blown dead (or at least decided to be blown dead)... I don't have a problem with reviewing it with sound, sort of like they do with the game clock in the last seconds. If the puck crosses the line before you can hear the whistle start, then it should be a goal.


    Totally agreed. It should have been a goal.
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