US breaking laws to torture

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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Yeah it's not like Im trying to point to bad behavior to justify other bad behavior. On another note one thing that will always stand out is D. Rumsfeld stamping his name on the letters to the Next Of Kin of a soldier that was killed in action instead of taking his time to actually sign the letter. :shock: :x WTF
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis

    jlew24asu wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Making a rule based off an absolute or extreme example is not legit.

    Simply put, if you find it ok for US solidiers to be tortured by enemies, then please go ahead and advocate US torture of enemies, but if you do not, then you're not being honest about the issue.

    torture needs to be defined. and that almost impossible. is being beat with a baseball bat torture? yes. is being held in a cold room for a few hours torture??


    edit: I will add, how will this put our soldiers at anymore risk then they already are? el queda and saddam types have been using torture long before the US decided to use enhanced interrogations. they will continue to cut off heads regardless of our policies.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    edited May 2009
    peace
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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Hey commy I think every one on the board would agree that what went down at Abeu Ghraib was horrific and a disgrace to all the men and women serving and those that have served.

    Anyone with half a shred of decency and respect for their fellow man would never condone that type of behavior past or present it's barbaric simple as that.

    Like I said though when it comes to waterborting all were high level AL qaeda we didnt do it just randomly to any detainee. Sure it made them uncomfortable but so what. It didn't cause any physical damage.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Hey commy I think every one on the board would agree that what went down at Abeu Ghraib was horrific and a disgrace to all the men and women serving and those that have served.

    Anyone with half a shred of decency and respect for their fellow man would never condone that type of behavior past or present it's barbaric simple as that.

    Like I said though when it comes to waterborting all were high level AL qaeda we didnt do it just randomly to any detainee. Sure it made them uncomfortable but so what. It didn't cause any physical damage.




    The UN defines torture as "....emotional distress". they may not come away withany physical damage, but according to the UN., which the US agreed to in '94, water boarding is torture.


    So the US is breaking international law, even when it waterboards.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    JB811 wrote:
    Commy wrote:



    you don't uphold the law only when its convenient.


    Do you really believe that?
    eh especially when its inconvenient is more accurate probably.


    like the neo nazis-sucks we gotta let tehm talk, but i will defend that right with everything i have. firstyou can't speak out against race, then its the government, then we're all fucked and living 100 years ago.

    you have to uphold the law especially when its inconvenient.

    First they put away the dealers
    Keep our kids safe and off the streets
    Then they put away the prostitutes
    Keep married men cloistered at home
    Then they shooed away the bums
    Then they beat and bashed the queers
    Turned away the asylum seekers
    Fed us suspicions and fears
    We didn't raise our voice
    We didn't make a fuss
    It's funny there was no one left to notice when they came for us

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