Love for the LOCAL fans!
I know that alot of folks are more than a little frustrated at the way CHI and TOR shows were announced, and more importantly, how tix were sold immediately. IMHO, I think it's great! I think that they are trying to bias things towards people who live in these cities or closeby- and AWAY from the folks that travel all over to see them ala the Deadheads. The band at times has certainly indicated that they are a bit put off seeing the same fans in the front row every night. Plus, the whole carbon footprint is alot smaller if people are driving across town to the show versus driving/flying across the country. If you live in CHI or TOR, or nearby these places, buying tix today was probably a no-brainer, however, for the folks who would have to travel long distances, they are the ones complaining because they dont have enough time to budget/book flights etc...seems pretty purposeful and thought out to me. They play Chicago for Chicago fans, not fans from all over the country...get it??? 
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Could not have said it better myself.
2003-6/1, 10/25
2005-8/29, 9/4
2006-7/2, 7/22, 7/23
2008-4/15(EV solo)
2009-9/21, 9/22, 9/28
2011-9/3, 9/4
2012-9/30
2013-7/19, 11/30
The only bad thing about doing it this way is the system crashing for some. I know I had a terrible time trying to get onto the website this morning . . . assuming it was because too many people were trying to get information/tickets at once.
and still jonesing for another show....
"the waiting drove me mad..."
i agree on the basis of carbon footprint... though i travel a lot so it makes me feel hypocritical for travelling. Hey, at least i use public transit / walk everywhere!
They're weeding out the travellers because, quite frankly, its "done". They want there to be tickets for non-members come the pulic on sale date, which is why it is scheduled for a few days away. They don't want people thinking about it; budgeting for it and planning their summer vacations around it. They just want to play to locals and get out of the "Jamily" business.
I'm surprised it took this long for someone to clue in...
Sorry, but fans like yourself are exactly what i am talking about and who Pearl Jam is attempting to manage. They are trying to discourage you traveling long distances (burning gas, carbon footprint) to see them and appealing more to the local fans!
who deserves it more, who the shows are for, which city is over do and which one is getting too many shows, what the band owes to people who they owe it to...
i don't think any of us are in the position to give insight on what their intentions are, or at least very few of us are.
You missed the point; it's not about where the band travels, it is about discouraging fans from flying all over the globe to attend shows- decreasing the chance for locals to get good tix and attend shows- plus doing the right thing environmentally, and we all know that PJ is just a bit interested in the environment!
they have a bit to go to catch up with Radiohead
i'm not missing the point, i just don't understand discouraging fans from flying all over the globe to attend shows... except the environmental thing of course, being that's something i'm very passionate about too. so i totally understand where you are coming from there.
the entitlement, however, is a bit different. realistically, the amount of people travelling from other places is pretty marginal i think... i see how you cuold become disappointed in this though.
its unfortunate that you aren't able to travel or don't want to travel... like i said, i've met some amazing people by travelling, who are equally hospitable and welcoming to travelling pearl jam fans in their hometowns, and obviously the feeling is mutual... at least for most fans i know.
I get your point, I can see why folks are frustrated. I still feel, however, that PJ is trying to avoid what happened to a band like the Grateful Dead (who I did actually travel to see back in my younger days); they dont' want a significant troupe of fans following them around the country/globe devouring resources and hogging tix and good seats- I witnessed this first hand with the Dead, and it was one of the reasons that band, and specifically Jerry Garcia, drove themselves into the ground!
If i knew there were going to be more shows in the midwest (mich/ohio/indiana area) i would probalby be able to hit two of those shows for the price that it will be for this one show.
that is why there are so many upset people. People just don't know if this may be there best (most financially benefitial) show to attend. alot of people just arent sure.
Also, isn't bring tourists to your city good for the economy?
oh definitely... definitely definitely definitely... but i would refine it saying, not the same group of fans with the same faces up at the front. i've seen about 20 shows in the past couple years and only have been up front once, in London, England.. waited around all day for my shot. Its some people who travel to see them everywhere and demand to be up there every show... i just turned 21, my 10c number sucks, but that's ok... being at the front / close is a treat! still, there are some people i've met along the way who feel they are entitled to be up at the front because of their 'dedication' and what not, its really stupid.
i guess what i'm trying to say (while trying to pay attention to my geography lecture right now too :roll: - which is prob why i'm not making sense haha) is that you shouldn't garnish all the travelling fans as the ones trying to suck up the good seats.... i know a LOT who could care less about that and are just happy to be there, and be fortunate enough to travel, see old friends and meet new people... and that's why i don't think its fair to say only local fans have rights to the shows..
Plus they are just touring for fun. They aren't promoting anything so consider any concert dates a gift.
Ummm...not to burst your bubble, but there are PLENTY of people still traveling for shows. I know at least 10 people from Detroit that will be driving up to Toronto to see the show on Friday...then heading over to Chicago to catch the show on Sunday...then back to Detroit. That's about 1052 miles altogether. Also, take a peak at the Euro show threads...plenty of people are traveling all over Europe to see all four shows. While your idea has some merit, I don't think it could be said with any certainty that the band planned things they way you posited. It is a nice theory though.
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And no one makes me close my eyes
So I throw the windows wide
And call to you across the sky....
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Im not saying it's going to actually work, I mean people will do what they want and spend their money and resources how they wish, but yeah, I do think it is a good theory!
um, i'm sorry but... you'll hafto put that equation in kilometers, please.
The ten club has our addresses. If they really wanted to look out for the local fans, couldn't they base tickets on zip codes? Sorry. I think you're wrong on this one, and pushing your own agenda.
Eddie Vedder solo: 2008 - Boston night 1 & 2 || 2009 - Albany, NY night 1 & 2 || 2011 - Hartford, CT, Boston, MA
1052 miles = 1 693.02989 kilometers
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And no one makes me close my eyes
So I throw the windows wide
And call to you across the sky....