For your mental health, it's probably better to be indifferent. You won't spend a lot of time worrying. If you get it, you do. And whatever happens, happens from there. It's probably healthier.
For myself, I worry. I live in a border state and teach kids. It's the front lines. Also, adding to the general worry, I'm older and had parents much MUCH older than me. As a result, my dad actually lived through the 1918 flu. True story. His family nearly went bankrupt from it, as his dad sold medicines for a living at the time and couldn't deny the sick and dying their drugs, whether they could pay or not. Their community, which was fairly remote, suffered a lot of deaths even so. What you might have heard about people being healthy as a horse in the morning and dead the next is absolutely true. It killed about 50% of everyone 20 to 40 years old in the town. My dad was a little kid and was never sick. So many people died and so many were sick, there weren't enough healthy to bury them all in a timely manner.
I'm not sure this flu will be that...at the moment it certainly doesn't appear to be, except in terms of timing of when it's showing--spring/summer...and that it was most virulent at first. It looks like it's getting milder. Okay, so the 1918 flu did, too. Then it came back and slaughtered people. However, there was no such thing as a vaccine against it back then. So, even if this one runs the same race as 1918, it still won't be as bad because at least we can hope to do a little something about it. In 1918 there was nothing to do but figure out if the family could afford to pay for 4 coffins at once or just pick a mass grave.
Gotta love how Tamiflu is still the most recommended med, and everyone's scramblin for it again...wonder if Rummy still has his stake in Gilead... George Shultz, PhD, CFR, Bldrbrg, (and Barry's nuclear ambassador?) is still on the board...
was H1NI created to try and wipe out the drug dealers down there?
The timing is incredible.
But that’s just my ‘blonde’ half-baked theory.
good theory.
but chances are the right guys are making money, they just had that business re-structuring when Mexico sent in the special forces to push out the wrong guys.
CIA most likely.
google Iran contra if you think that could never happen.
It certainly doesn't help that the Vice Prez is going around saying don't get on planes.
i don't get the fuss about what he said thou. it's damn good advice. I mean how clean is that recycled air on a plane?[/quote]
It might be good advice to never get on a plane too... but for the Vice Prez to say something like that is just stupid. It's like yelling fire in a crowded room.
100 people "might" have the flu out of the entire US population. I like my chances of not getting it.
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but NOW its "breaking news" and suddenly the gov't is freaking out about along with everyone else?
I don't think so. something isn't right about any of this.
its not just the flu virus thats been around, its specifically H1N1, been around for ages.
I posted the same response in the separate thread that you created for this post, but here it is again.
According to the 'flu facts,' this is a different strain of the virus that's never been found anywhere in the world. The reason why it's an outbreak now is because people have no immunity to it and currently there's no vaccine.
A. It's a novel combination of bird, pig and human viral genes never before found in the U.S. or elsewhere, so people have no immunity to it. It's a descendant of the H1N1 virus that killed tens of millions of people worldwide in the pandemic of 1918-1919, mixed in with recent strains of swine and bird flu viruses. The 1918 virus originated in birds and then jumped to humans. This year's virus apparently jumped from a pig to a 5-year-old boy in Veracruz, Mexico, who passed it on to other humans.
Q. How does this H1N1 virus differ from the H1N1 that caused the Spanish flu pandemic in 1918-1919?
A. That virus developed various changes over the years, so it's similar but not identical to its ancestor — like a grandson who resembles but also differs from his grandfather. So far, H1N1 is not as virulent as the previous strain, but that could change. The earlier pandemic began mildly in 1918, but returned in a devastating second wave six months later. Experts fear that could happen again. Hence they are rushing to develop a vaccine by this fall.
It might be good advice to never get on a plane too... but for the Vice Prez to say something like that is just stupid. It's like yelling fire in a crowded room.
Yeah I get it. I really do.
My smartass reply: What, Republicans are the only ones that are allowed to use scare tactics?
*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*
Some assclown suggested that we shouldn't call it "swine flu" because it may offend people of Jewish, or Hindu faith but instead wanted to call it "Mexican Flu"
Be cause that's not offensive....
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Flu names have a long history of being offensive. I had the Hong Kong flu once. I have never had a hurricane named after me, though. Hurricanes had a long time-honored history of being offensive, as well. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, ya know. So, they used to all be named after women. It's good to see naming of all this stuff getting more real.
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For myself, I worry. I live in a border state and teach kids. It's the front lines. Also, adding to the general worry, I'm older and had parents much MUCH older than me. As a result, my dad actually lived through the 1918 flu. True story. His family nearly went bankrupt from it, as his dad sold medicines for a living at the time and couldn't deny the sick and dying their drugs, whether they could pay or not. Their community, which was fairly remote, suffered a lot of deaths even so. What you might have heard about people being healthy as a horse in the morning and dead the next is absolutely true. It killed about 50% of everyone 20 to 40 years old in the town. My dad was a little kid and was never sick. So many people died and so many were sick, there weren't enough healthy to bury them all in a timely manner.
I'm not sure this flu will be that...at the moment it certainly doesn't appear to be, except in terms of timing of when it's showing--spring/summer...and that it was most virulent at first. It looks like it's getting milder. Okay, so the 1918 flu did, too. Then it came back and slaughtered people. However, there was no such thing as a vaccine against it back then. So, even if this one runs the same race as 1918, it still won't be as bad because at least we can hope to do a little something about it. In 1918 there was nothing to do but figure out if the family could afford to pay for 4 coffins at once or just pick a mass grave.
doesn't that just roll off the tongue..... :roll:
the swine flu isn't new.
Its been around for years
http://www.nih.go.jp/yoken/iasr/18/214/graph/f2142.gif
but NOW its "breaking news" and suddenly the gov't is freaking out about along with everyone else?
I don't think so. something isn't right about any of this.
its not just the flu virus thats been around, its specifically H1N1, been around for ages.
it usually is.
nothing has changed. but everyone is worried about an "outbreak" that broke a decade ago?
doesn't add up. unless of course we are meant to buy. send more money.
good theory.
but chances are the right guys are making money, they just had that business re-structuring when Mexico sent in the special forces to push out the wrong guys.
CIA most likely.
google Iran contra if you think that could never happen.
and swine flu is nothing new
i don't get the fuss about what he said thou. it's damn good advice. I mean how clean is that recycled air on a plane?[/quote]
It might be good advice to never get on a plane too... but for the Vice Prez to say something like that is just stupid. It's like yelling fire in a crowded room.
100 people "might" have the flu out of the entire US population. I like my chances of not getting it.
I posted the same response in the separate thread that you created for this post, but here it is again.
According to the 'flu facts,' this is a different strain of the virus that's never been found anywhere in the world. The reason why it's an outbreak now is because people have no immunity to it and currently there's no vaccine.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090 ... hy/3222848
Q. What makes this swine flu virus special?
A. It's a novel combination of bird, pig and human viral genes never before found in the U.S. or elsewhere, so people have no immunity to it. It's a descendant of the H1N1 virus that killed tens of millions of people worldwide in the pandemic of 1918-1919, mixed in with recent strains of swine and bird flu viruses. The 1918 virus originated in birds and then jumped to humans. This year's virus apparently jumped from a pig to a 5-year-old boy in Veracruz, Mexico, who passed it on to other humans.
Q. How does this H1N1 virus differ from the H1N1 that caused the Spanish flu pandemic in 1918-1919?
A. That virus developed various changes over the years, so it's similar but not identical to its ancestor — like a grandson who resembles but also differs from his grandfather. So far, H1N1 is not as virulent as the previous strain, but that could change. The earlier pandemic began mildly in 1918, but returned in a devastating second wave six months later. Experts fear that could happen again. Hence they are rushing to develop a vaccine by this fall.
Yeah I get it. I really do.
My smartass reply: What, Republicans are the only ones that are allowed to use scare tactics?
and thanks for doing so.
i was confused.
If its called H1N1, and it mutates, why do they still call it H1N1?
its a mystery to me.
Some assclown suggested that we shouldn't call it "swine flu" because it may offend people of Jewish, or Hindu faith but instead wanted to call it "Mexican Flu"
Be cause that's not offensive....
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