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thebettermanthebetterman Posts: 657
edited April 2009 in The Porch
Notice how ticket prices for the PJ shows are less than Eddie solo?

and thats factoring in touring costs for only a couple shows in Europe.

let the games (complaining) begin...
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,070
    Smaller Venues = A LOT less people = higher prices
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  • BravejamriotBravejamriot Posts: 217
    And how many people do these arenas hold? I bet more than the 2800 that the Palace in Albany holds.
  • ScrapeMySkyScrapeMySky Posts: 426
    A LOT more. The venue in Berlin holds about 17000.
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,872
    LukinFan wrote:
    Smaller Venues = A LOT less people = higher prices

    Exactly. Not sure why this is a constant issue. And the fact that you're seeing a huge act like EV in a small setting like that, you should expect a pretty pricey ticket.
  • a5pja5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,919
    it's too soon for complaining, let the ticket rush wear off, tomorrow all the threads on the main page will be about costs, the way the news was released, why aren't they touring more, no US dates, blah blah

    heh
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    I've seen bands as big as Ed solo play SMALLER venues for less.
  • Vedderman23Vedderman23 Posts: 859
    Well my Dad can beat up your Dad. :roll:

    fuck.
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  • oneforeachdayoneforeachday Posts: 494
    Vedderman23 wrote:
    Well my Dad can beat up your Dad. :roll:

    fuck.
    :roll: :lol:
  • PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    Bravejamriot wrote:
    And how many people do these arenas hold? I bet more than the 2800 that the Palace in Albany holds.
    Yea, it holds around that.
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  • Surf RiderSurf Rider Posts: 813
    thebetterman wrote:
    Notice how ticket prices for the PJ shows are less than Eddie solo?

    and thats factoring in touring costs for only a couple shows in Europe.


    who cares
  • like.echoeslike.echoes Posts: 582
    oh, good, let's talk about THIS again! :lol:
    nothing's changed but the surrounding bullsh1t
  • woundedorganwoundedorgan Posts: 607
    I would gladly pay the extra dough to see EV solo. Although the Tower is not super small, the intimaticy is well worth the price. Saw EV at Spreckels in SD, this was about the smallest place you could ever dream of seing Ed live outside of their rehearsal space...

    ....They have to make their money somehow. If I can suggest something, expect ticket price increases from one tour to the next, it happens everytime. Same with posters....I can't see the poster production costs rising much but the prices of posters keep rising.....
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  • Pushin Forward BackPushin Forward Back Posts: 890
    where's the moron who is gonna break down how much it costs to tour from crew to travel to trucks?!?!?
  • OceansMagnetOceansMagnet Posts: 1,033
    MH80359 wrote:
    where's the moron who is gonna break down how much it costs to tour from crew to travel to trucks?!?!?
    I'll be "that moron" Kinda.. I already posted this elsewhere... $80 is quite a fair price. We are getting the opportunity to see an honest to God rock legend in an extremely rare intimate theatre setting. Keep in mind that these ticket sales now make up the bulk of an artists livelihood. Record sales are at an all-time low. Noone can make a living off of record sales anymore. Not to mention that now most contracts with promoters, venues, and even labels and distribution companies are taking a percentage of ticket sales AND merch.. It is not at all the same industry it was 15 years ago when artists sold 15 million records and could do tickets at $25 a pop. Basic math... number of seats x price per ticket.. subtract expenses and hope there is enough left over to justify the trip...
  • redeyeredeye Posts: 620
    Indifference71 wrote:
    LukinFan wrote:
    Smaller Venues = A LOT less people = higher prices

    Exactly. Not sure why this is a constant issue. And the fact that you're seeing a huge act like EV in a small setting like that, you should expect a pretty pricey ticket.

    true, true..
    why all the complaining about ticket prices, the price reflects all the above
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,872
    bhigh901 wrote:
    MH80359 wrote:
    where's the moron who is gonna break down how much it costs to tour from crew to travel to trucks?!?!?
    I'll be "that moron" Kinda.. I already posted this elsewhere... $80 is quite a fair price. We are getting the opportunity to see an honest to God rock legend in an extremely rare intimate theatre setting. Keep in mind that these ticket sales now make up the bulk of an artists livelihood. Record sales are at an all-time low. Noone can make a living off of record sales anymore. Not to mention that now most contracts with promoters, venues, and even labels and distribution companies are taking a percentage of ticket sales AND merch.. It is not at all the same industry it was 15 years ago when artists sold 15 million records and could do tickets at $25 a pop. Basic math... number of seats x price per ticket.. subtract expenses and hope there is enough left over to justify the trip...


    Very well put. These artists gotta make their $ on the road since a hueg majority of muslic listeners just download their music for free online these days.
  • Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,350
    edited April 2009
    The bottom line is whether you have faith in Eddie Vedder and how he treats the fans.

    I do, and there's no doubt in my mind he could sell the shows out at at double/triple the price.
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  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    thebetterman wrote:
    Notice how ticket prices for the PJ shows are less than Eddie solo?

    and thats factoring in touring costs for only a couple shows in Europe.

    let the games (complaining) begin...

    And I'll be THIS guy....douche! ;)
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  • OceansMagnetOceansMagnet Posts: 1,033
    pjtradeking wrote:
    thebetterman wrote:
    Notice how ticket prices for the PJ shows are less than Eddie solo?

    and thats factoring in touring costs for only a couple shows in Europe.

    let the games (complaining) begin...

    And I'll be THIS guy....douche! ;)

    exactly... If it were free he'd be complaining that the show were too far from his house.. The band should pay his gas money... I guess the Merch costs too much too, huh? :roll:
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    bhigh901 wrote:
    MH80359 wrote:
    where's the moron who is gonna break down how much it costs to tour from crew to travel to trucks?!?!?
    I'll be "that moron" Kinda.. I already posted this elsewhere... $80 is quite a fair price. We are getting the opportunity to see an honest to God rock legend in an extremely rare intimate theatre setting. Keep in mind that these ticket sales now make up the bulk of an artists livelihood. Record sales are at an all-time low. Noone can make a living off of record sales anymore. Not to mention that now most contracts with promoters, venues, and even labels and distribution companies are taking a percentage of ticket sales AND merch.. It is not at all the same industry it was 15 years ago when artists sold 15 million records and could do tickets at $25 a pop. Basic math... number of seats x price per ticket.. subtract expenses and hope there is enough left over to justify the trip...

    Seriously, PJ make plenty of dough on their albums. Sure, they don't sell like they used to, but albums that sell 100 of thousands of copies are huge money makers. That business of bands makin less than a dollar a piece is for new bands. PJ probably make closer $3/sell. Combine that with any royalties they make from the back catalog and PJ still make more cash than any of us will ever see, and plenty to charge less.

    I think people are sour, b/c PJ are no longer in the same ticket price bracket that they used to be. For the size of band they are, they used to have the cheapest tix around.

    Tool will have cheaper ticket prices on their upcoming tour and they are bigger, put more back into the show $wise, and will be playing the same venues as PJ.

    Ticket prices, of course, are gonna be higher, but imo it's ridiculous for Ed to charge more than the full band tour. Smaller venues equal smaller expense and it's not like he's playing clubs. He's playin full on concert venues that hold at least a few thousand.

    I don't think anybody is entitled to a premium, just b/c they are legendary, though I understand when there is. But it's not somethin Ed or the boys used to do.

    It doesn't necessarily bother me. I just hope when the tour rolls around I shell out $x00 for tix to multiple shows, I don't wanna hear Ed talk about how sympathizes with all the people hit by the rough economy.
  • mrshock13mrshock13 Posts: 472
    a5pj wrote:
    it's too soon for complaining, let the ticket rush wear off, tomorrow all the threads on the main page will be about costs, the way the news was released, why aren't they touring more, no US dates, blah blah

    heh

    Shit, you psychic or something? Although, I seem to be getting a similar psychic vibe.
  • hopethatuchokehopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    I saw Radiohead a few years ago at the Tower for $41. Factor in inflation and that would probably be about $51 now. For Radiohead....a whole band....with an amazing light show. That too was a small run of North American shows in small theaters. The difference between RH and Eddie is greed. All about the benjamins. Someone has the green disease! :lol: (That was so cheesy)
  • Drop The Leash 10Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    Vedderman23 wrote:
    Well my Dad can beat up your Dad. :roll:

    fuck.
    :lol: :P
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  • CF31525CF31525 Posts: 46
    No one is forcing you to buy tickets to his shows. The shows will sell out whether you begrudgingly go or not. If you don't agree with the price, stay home. It's very simple. What exactly is the benefit of bitching about this? Waxing nostalgic about the "good old days" is pointless. Milk used to be less expensive too. Do you stand outside the grocery store bitching about that?
  • HeavyHandsHeavyHands Posts: 2,130
    You know... Realistically you're only "that guy" if you wear the t-shirt of the band you're going to see.

    Just sayin... ;)
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  • hopethatuchokehopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    CF31525 wrote:
    Milk used to be less expensive too. Do you stand outside the grocery store bitching about that?


    Yes as a matter of fact I do. :D

    I think people the thing that pisses most people off is the fact that Ed and the band have turned into such hypocrites.
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