When Is PJ's 20th?

decides2dream

ya know...my apologies...i do try not to be too much of a smartass here...too often. i've said elsewhere....it's now april 16th......i have tons of freetime at least for a few days now, and definitely will have large pockets of time at least thru july........so i basically have all the time in the world to shoot the shit and be a wiseass here today especially. today my workday has consisted of reading and posting on this board. period. oh, and i did take a break and read my book over my lunch. i will be here until 5:45.....and probably follow roughly the same schedule tomorrow. so yes, mea culpa for what that kinda time does to my posting habits and content......




and yes....seriously....i always thought 'decides2dream' was a pretty damn 'girly' username AND at the moment i have fucking PINK TULIPs in my avatar.......but i will take 'guy' in the same spirit as 'dude' is apparently used......open for all genders!




oh and yes.....PEARL JAM has announced that their anniversary is being celebrated in 2011.




good enough for me........

Music For Rhinos

decides2dream wrote:

ya know...my apologies...i do try not to be too much of a smartass here...too often. i've said elsewhere....it's now april 16th......i have tons of freetime at least for a few days now, and definitely will have large pockets of time at least thru july........so i basically have all the time in the world to shoot the shit and be a wiseass here today especially. today my workday has consisted of reading and posting on this board. period. oh, and i did take a break and read my book over my lunch. i will be here until 5:45.....and probably follow roughly the same schedule tomorrow. so yes, mea culpa for what that kinda time does to my posting habits and content......




and yes....seriously....i always thought 'decides2dream' was a pretty damn 'girly' username AND at the moment i have fucking PINK TULIPs in my avatar.......but i will take 'guy' in the same spirit as 'dude' is apparently used......open for all genders!




oh and yes.....PEARL JAM has announced that their anniversary is being celebrated in 2011.




good enough for me........

wow that's really sad. you should try going outside once in a while.

i know pearl jam announced the anniversary as being in 2011...it was on the news tidbit for the ten rerelease. obviously....
that's why i posted this in the first place.

Music For Rhinos

decides2dream wrote:

and goodie for you for knowing that.....*passes out gold star*.......now what do you expect to win? :P











seriously, i love these rhetorical questions.....cause really, you started this thread KNOWing what answer is *right* in your mind...so really not looking for discussion of it, just simply to prove you're right.



well then, how silly of me and my husband for 'celebrating' our anniversary according to when we got married...b/c clearly it should be when we first became a couple. :roll: as i said.....it's all what YOU choose to focus on. i am sure pearl jam looks at 1990 and onwards, as a whole HOST of anniversaries.....and what they may personally deem 'their anniversary'...we may never be privvy to. as i said, that first day they all jammed together, perhaps for them is it. (and yes i know....still 1990 ) point is, does it really matter what, or how long they want to celebrate? isn't it MORE important to focus on WHAT they are celebrating....still being together after 20 fucking years rocking our faces off......then on the EXACT *when*.....you want to start the countdown?



just sayin'.......guy......... :P

what do i expect to win? well gee...you already gave me a gold star so that's good enough i guess.

i wasn't trying to "prove" anything. i was stating a fact.

haha, you're clearly worked up about this, otherwise you wouldn't have spent time posting on this particular thread.

funny stuff.

decides2dream

Music For Rhinos wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

and goodie for you for knowing that.....*passes out gold star*.......now what do you expect to win? :P











seriously, i love these rhetorical questions.....cause really, you started this thread KNOWing what answer is *right* in your mind...so really not looking for discussion of it, just simply to prove you're right.



well then, how silly of me and my husband for 'celebrating' our anniversary according to when we got married...b/c clearly it should be when we first became a couple. :roll: as i said.....it's all what YOU choose to focus on. i am sure pearl jam looks at 1990 and onwards, as a whole HOST of anniversaries.....and what they may personally deem 'their anniversary'...we may never be privvy to. as i said, that first day they all jammed together, perhaps for them is it. (and yes i know....still 1990 ) point is, does it really matter what, or how long they want to celebrate? isn't it MORE important to focus on WHAT they are celebrating....still being together after 20 fucking years rocking our faces off......then on the EXACT *when*.....you want to start the countdown?



just sayin'.......guy......... :P

what do i expect to win? well gee...you already gave me a gold star so that's good enough i guess.

i wasn't trying to "prove" anything. i was stating a fact.

haha, you're clearly worked up about this, otherwise you wouldn't have spent time posting on this particular thread.

funny stuff.

hahahahahahahahaha...i always love the redirection of focus. worked up?! hahahahahahah. nothing could be further from the truth! i am completely amused...and as i mentioned i have had nothing but TIME today, and will continue, until 5:30 pm...thus i am biding my time. i am posting on just about every thread discussion today, so don't feel any undo attention has been given to this one.

and no, you weren't just stating a fact....but whatever..............i've simply been amusing myself here today......


enjoy your gold star tho - they ARE special!




btw -


Why has it been said that Pearl Jam's 20th anniversary is in 2011?

1. The band formed in 1990.
2. They celebrated their 10th anniversary in 2000. (Las Vegas show)
3. Therefore their 20th anniversary would be 2010.

No?





um, no...not necessarily, as has been discussed by this thread....and thus, not 'fact'....that is all. if pearl jam wants to celebrate their first album release as the 'marker' of their 20th anniversary....it is their right to do so. as someone else pointed out, was that first show even under the name pearl jam, or mookie blaylock...i don't rmemeber. point is, a few have explained how it's possible to rightly celebrate their anniversary in 2011.....you're the only one who is saying their opinion is a fact. that's all. but sure....tell me how worked up about it i am..... i'm just having FUN! it is a gorgeous spring day....i am in my office.......and i am entertaining myself with this and many other discussions....and so it goes.........!

Music For Rhinos

decides2dream wrote:

hahahahahahahahaha...i always love the redirection of focus. worked up?! hahahahahahah. nothing could be further from the truth! i am completely amused...and as i mentioned i have had nothing but TIME today, and will continue, until 5:30 pm...thus i am biding my time. i am posting on just about every thread discussion today, so don't feel any undo attention has been given to this one.

and no, you weren't just stating a fact....but whatever..............i've simply been amusing myself here today......


enjoy your gold star tho - they ARE special!

what is your problem?

i WAS stating a fact...pearl jam formed in 1990 = fact. the 20th anniversary of being a band being 2010 = fact.

decides2dream

Music For Rhinos wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

hahahahahahahahaha...i always love the redirection of focus. worked up?! hahahahahahah. nothing could be further from the truth! i am completely amused...and as i mentioned i have had nothing but TIME today, and will continue, until 5:30 pm...thus i am biding my time. i am posting on just about every thread discussion today, so don't feel any undo attention has been given to this one.

and no, you weren't just stating a fact....but whatever..............i've simply been amusing myself here today......


enjoy your gold star tho - they ARE special!

what is your problem?

i WAS stating a fact...pearl jam formed in 1990 = fact. the 20th anniversary of being a band being 2010 = fact.

what is YOUR problem? :? :?:
seriously?


YOU started a thread asking a question...you stated your point...others, including myself have stated counterpoints, varying perspectives....you don't want to accept it, cool.....i am merely participating in the discussion. why start a thread if you don't want a discussion?


and i say again - i eidited it in above =but you responded probably before ...




Why has it been said that Pearl Jam's 20th anniversary is in 2011?

1. The band formed in 1990.
2. They celebrated their 10th anniversary in 2000. (Las Vegas show)
3. Therefore their 20th anniversary would be 2010.

No?





um, no...not necessarily, as has been discussed by this thread....and thus, not 'fact'....that is all. if pearl jam wants to celebrate their first album release as the 'marker' of their 20th anniversary....it is their right to do so. as someone else pointed out, was that first show even under the name pearl jam, or mookie blaylock...i don't rmemeber. point is, a few have explained how it's possible to rightly celebrate their anniversary in 2011.....you're the only one who is saying their opinion is a fact. that's all. but sure....tell me how worked up about it i am..... i'm just having FUN! it is a gorgeous spring day....i am in my office.......and i am entertaining myself with this and many other discussions....and so it goes.........!

decides2dream

btw





what is your problem?

i WAS stating a fact...pearl jam formed in 1990 = fact. the 20th anniversary of being a band being 2010 = fact.





WHO said they were celebrating the annniversary of them being a BAND? i read that no where. i've read they are celebrating their 20th anniversary, and as i and others have pointed out, the PARTICULAR 20th anniversary they could be celebrating does not necessarily have to be when they formed as a band, or the date of their first show, their first single, whateveeeerrrrrr. THEY CHOSE to make it about when they released their first album. just b/c in the past they chose to celebrate the 10th anniversary of their first show, DOESN'T mean that today or tomorrow they can't choose to celebrate the anniversary of something else....like say, their first album release.

so yea....while your *fact* about when they became a band is true, no one was arguing THAT.......that also isn't the whole story. disagree, cool...but again....doesn't make it right, either.......:P hahahahaha. and yes, it's not personal....so no problem there........just trying to get you to see it's not 'just about when they became a band, or their first show...or whatever else. you said 'fair enough guy' to it earlier. thought that meant you understood.

Music For Rhinos

decides2dream wrote:

btw





what is your problem?

i WAS stating a fact...pearl jam formed in 1990 = fact. the 20th anniversary of being a band being 2010 = fact.





WHO said they were celebrating the annniversary of them being a BAND? i read that no where. i've read they are celebrating their 20th anniversary, and as i and others have pointed out, the PARTICULAR 20th anniversary they could be celebrating does not necessarily have to be when they formed as a band, or the date of their first show, their first single, whateveeeerrrrrr. THEY CHOSE to make it about when they released their first album. just b/c in the past they chose to celebrate the 10th anniversary of their first show, DOESN'T mean that today or tomorrow they can't choose to celebrate the anniversary of something else....like say, their first album release.

so yea....while your *fact* about when they became a band is true, no one was arguing THAT.......that also isn't the whole story. disagree, cool...but again....doesn't make it right, either.......:P hahahahaha. and yes, it's not personal....so no problem there........just trying to get you to see it's not 'just about when they became a band, or their first show...or whatever else. you said 'fair enough guy' to it earlier. thought that meant you understood.

slow down. i'm not an idiot, okay? i GET it. yes, ten came out in 91. yes 20 years would be 2011. yes, they are celebrating in 2011. i'm just saying, AS A BAND, the 20th would be 2010.

yes, i know it all depends on how you look at it. i'm not trying to prove myself right and everyone wrong. we got off on the wrong foot here. you took what i was saying wrong and ran with it and now here we are.

everything is okay.

decides2dream

Music For Rhinos wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

btw





what is your problem?

i WAS stating a fact...pearl jam formed in 1990 = fact. the 20th anniversary of being a band being 2010 = fact.





WHO said they were celebrating the annniversary of them being a BAND? i read that no where. i've read they are celebrating their 20th anniversary, and as i and others have pointed out, the PARTICULAR 20th anniversary they could be celebrating does not necessarily have to be when they formed as a band, or the date of their first show, their first single, whateveeeerrrrrr. THEY CHOSE to make it about when they released their first album. just b/c in the past they chose to celebrate the 10th anniversary of their first show, DOESN'T mean that today or tomorrow they can't choose to celebrate the anniversary of something else....like say, their first album release.

so yea....while your *fact* about when they became a band is true, no one was arguing THAT.......that also isn't the whole story. disagree, cool...but again....doesn't make it right, either.......:P hahahahaha. and yes, it's not personal....so no problem there........just trying to get you to see it's not 'just about when they became a band, or their first show...or whatever else. you said 'fair enough guy' to it earlier. thought that meant you understood.

slow down. i'm not an idiot, okay? i GET it. yes, ten came out in 91. yes 20 years would be 2011. yes, they are celebrating in 2011. i'm just saying, AS A BAND, the 20th would be 2010.

yes, i know it all depends on how you look at it. i'm not trying to prove myself right and everyone wrong. we got off on the wrong foot here. you took what i was saying wrong and ran with it and now here we are.

everything is okay.

hahaha...i never suggested you were an idiot! i don't think i took what you said wrong...i think it's more how you presented it. i got your facts, you get that there's more 'facts' to it than that....it's all cool. you keep saying i am worked up, everything is ok.....i know it's ok. i am posting with a big smile on my face. i know in type it's difficult to get 'tone'.....but i've said often enough i am having FUN, all is good. but yes, from your first post onwards...sure did appear as you were trying to prove your point as right....and if not, cool.....my inference. all is well and has been all along......guy!


it's a beautiful spring day and i am happy...and my workday is almost done!
this has been a welcome distraction...it's all good!

Music For Rhinos

decides2dream wrote:

hahaha...i never suggested you were an idiot! i don't think i took what you said wrong...i think it's more how you presented it. i got your facts, you get that there's more 'facts' to it than that....it's all cool. you keep saying i am worked up, everything is ok.....i know it's ok. i am posting with a big smile on my face. i know in type it's difficult to get 'tone'.....but i've said often enough i am having FUN, all is good. but yes, from your first post onwards...sure did appear as you were trying to prove your point as right....and if not, cool.....my inference. all is well and has been all along......guy!


it's a beautiful spring day and i am happy...and my workday is almost done!
this has been a welcome distraction...it's all good!

yes, i understand.

there was nothing i said originally that is not fact or that is incorrect.

edit:

the 20th anniversary as a BAND = 2010
the 20th anniversary of the release of their debut album = 2011

bazzer

Music For Rhinos wrote:

yes, i understand.

there was nothing i said originally that is not fact or that is incorrect.

edit:

the 20th anniversary as a BAND = 2010
the 20th anniversary of the release of their debut album = 2011

I just wonder why you posted this thread then, if you didn't want discussion around why it has been said that Pearl Jam's 20th anniversary is in 2011? Every reply of yours basically said "PJs 20th anniversary is in 2010". Actually, that is not a fact, PJ didn't exist until 1991 :roll:

If you're going to play the semantics game ("the 20th anniversary as a BAND = 2010") then you'd better make sure you get it right from the start...

decides2dream

Music For Rhinos wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

hahaha...i never suggested you were an idiot! i don't think i took what you said wrong...i think it's more how you presented it. i got your facts, you get that there's more 'facts' to it than that....it's all cool. you keep saying i am worked up, everything is ok.....i know it's ok. i am posting with a big smile on my face. i know in type it's difficult to get 'tone'.....but i've said often enough i am having FUN, all is good. but yes, from your first post onwards...sure did appear as you were trying to prove your point as right....and if not, cool.....my inference. all is well and has been all along......guy!


it's a beautiful spring day and i am happy...and my workday is almost done!
this has been a welcome distraction...it's all good!

yes, i understand.

there was nothing i said originally that is not fact or that is incorrect.

edit:

the 20th anniversary as a BAND = 2010
the 20th anniversary of the release of their debut album = 2011

hahahahahahahah....whatevvvveeeeerrrrrrrr guy!
anyhoooooooooo it's been fun, my workday is DONE......enjoy the rest of your day!

pearl jam anniversary 2011........be there!!!


one more time.........





Why has it been said that Pearl Jam's 20th anniversary is in 2011?

1. The band formed in 1990.
2. They celebrated their 10th anniversary in 2000. (Las Vegas show)
3. Therefore their 20th anniversary would be 2010.

No?





NO!
not necessarily....see countless posts in thread





just having FUN!

pjtradeking

Music for Rhinos.....What day in the year 1990 are you counting as their inception? I mean if we are going to split hairs, I would like a day to put on my calendar...:-)

Music For Rhinos

Are you people RETARDED?

The BAND formed in 1990.

From Wikipedia: Pearl Jam is an American rock band that formed in Seattle, Washington in 1990.

That is a FACT. It is not up for debate. If you are disputing that, you are a moron.

I KNOW 1991 is the year Ten was released and therefore 20 years later is 2011.

YES, 2011 is the 20th anniversary of the release of their debut.

2010 is the 20th anniversary of them being a BAND.

How in the world can you not understand that?

Music For Rhinos

bazzer wrote:

Music For Rhinos wrote:

yes, i understand.

there was nothing i said originally that is not fact or that is incorrect.

edit:

the 20th anniversary as a BAND = 2010
the 20th anniversary of the release of their debut album = 2011

I just wonder why you posted this thread then, if you didn't want discussion around why it has been said that Pearl Jam's 20th anniversary is in 2011? Every reply of yours basically said "PJs 20th anniversary is in 2010". Actually, that is not a fact, PJ didn't exist until 1991 :roll:

If you're going to play the semantics game ("the 20th anniversary as a BAND = 2010") then you'd better make sure you get it right from the start...

HAH! That is not correct...Pearl Jam DID in fact exist in 1990. They just didn't release Ten until 1991!

I DO have my facts right.

bazzer

Music For Rhinos wrote:

HAH! That is not correct...Pearl Jam DID in fact exist in 1990. They just didn't release Ten until 1991!

I DO have my facts right.

I wouldn't be so smug if I were you. You're the one being picky, so I'm sure you know that they played as Mookie Blaylock until at least March 1991. If you'd gone up to them on 22nd October 1990 and said "I love Pearl Jam" they probably would have looked at you funny...

pjtradeking

Music For Rhinos wrote:

bazzer wrote:

Music For Rhinos wrote:

yes, i understand.

there was nothing i said originally that is not fact or that is incorrect.

edit:

the 20th anniversary as a BAND = 2010
the 20th anniversary of the release of their debut album = 2011

I just wonder why you posted this thread then, if you didn't want discussion around why it has been said that Pearl Jam's 20th anniversary is in 2011? Every reply of yours basically said "PJs 20th anniversary is in 2010". Actually, that is not a fact, PJ didn't exist until 1991 :roll:

If you're going to play the semantics game ("the 20th anniversary as a BAND = 2010") then you'd better make sure you get it right from the start...

HAH! That is not correct...Pearl Jam DID in fact exist in 1990. They just didn't release Ten until 1991!

I DO have my facts right.

Pearl Jam did NOT exist in 1990...Mookie Blaylock did....As bazzer said, PEARL JAM was NOT a band until 91. Until that time, Mookie Blaylock was a band.

decides2dream

Music For Rhinos wrote:

wow that's really sad. you should try going outside once in a while.

i know pearl jam announced the anniversary as being in 2011...it was on the news tidbit for the ten rerelease. obviously....
that's why i posted this in the first place.

you know what's fucking sad...'arguing' a point, thinking your *facts* are right, when they aren't...and being too stubborn to even see it. also sad, apparently not being able to read for content. i have stated more times than once i was at fucking WORK all day......thus i can't just 'decide' to go outside when i wish, or you bet...i certainly would've been outside on such a BEAUTIFUL day as todsay was, rather than discussing semantics with you or any of the other BS i've posted today. :P seriously.


sadder still....saying people are 'retarded' or 'morons' for disagreeing with you.....and i think clearly, as the language of our times dictates.....'you've been *told* a couple times over in this thread...and not even by me! last two posts above clearly show it. so yea.....mookie blaylock's first show was 10.22.90...not pearl jams. same members, sure, and sure they wanted to celebrate the first show they played together...but it is not *officially* a pearl jam show...so not *officially* pearl jam's anniversary! and honestly...i was totally having fun today, killing time, etc.....but yea...the retarded and moron comments.....rude! all over a civil discussion over when pearl jam's anniversary is? are you for real? damn...it's like your AET thread aways back...if you don't actually want a discussion, opinions/thoughts that might differ from your own...if you only want to prove you're 'right'....you are speaking the 'facts'..... :roll: i suggest you stick to conversations with yourself. :P


anyhooo...i had a great night, this thread gave me some good laughs, especially the last posts...thank you bazzer!

bazzer wrote:

I wouldn't be so smug if I were you. You're the one being picky, so I'm sure you know that they played as Mookie Blaylock until at least March 1991. If you'd gone up to them on 22nd October 1990 and said "I love Pearl Jam" they probably would have looked at you funny...

Music For Rhinos

Alright everyone. Sit and relax please. This has been blown way out of proportion. I, apparently, am misunderstood quite often on here. Why? I don't know.

There is nothing anyone has said that I didn't already know. The things I have been saying have been correct as well. As has been said, it depends on how you look at it.


PEARL JAM formed in 1990. Yes, they were called Mookie Blaylock but it was still the exact same core group of guys. It's still the same BAND,...it's just a different NAME.

You guys are the ones coming with the semantics. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

The point of this thread was never to start an argument or to prove points.

I was simply offering another perspective from the one presented on the home page of pearljam.com under the news tidbit for the Ten rerelease that stated the band's 20th anniversary will be in 2011.

My facts ARE right, just as other facts that have been presented are right.

Stop making me out to be an asshole when that is not the case.

decides2dream

Music For Rhinos wrote:

Alright everyone. Sit and relax please. This has been blown way out of proportion. I, apparently, am misunderstood quite often on here. Why? I don't know.

There is nothing anyone has said that I didn't already know. The things I have been saying have been correct as well. As has been said, it depends on how you look at it.
PEARL JAM formed in 1990. Yes, they were called Mookie Blaylock but it was still the exact same core group of guys. It's still the same BAND,...it's just a different NAME.

You guys are the ones coming with the semantics. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

The point of this thread was never to start an argument or to prove points.

I was simply offering another perspective from the one presented on the home page of pearljam.com under the news tidbit for the Ten rerelease that stated the band's 20th anniversary will be in 2011.

My facts ARE right, just as other facts that have been presented are right.

Stop making me out to be an asshole when that is not the case.

you're not misunderstood...at all. you haven't presented FACTs, and you are the only one who refuses to see it. but hey, it's oooookkkkkkkkkkkkkkk...you don't have to runand hide awaaaayyyyyyy..........:D


do please elaborate exactly what the *point* of this thread was, b/c it evidently wasn't for discussion and you don't seem to want to admit you simply want agreement to your opinion. i mean shit, PEARL JAM is SAYING their anniversary is in 2011....it's THEIR anniversary...and you're calling them wrong! and please, don't site wikipedia as your unfallable source!


btw - no one at ALL insinuated you were an 'asshole''''except yourself. yet, you referred to us all as possibly retarded and/or morons. got it. YOU started the semantics...by stating your opinion as FACT. the only way to counter such things IS with semantics. don't see it cool, but it doesn't make you right, either....and i am already sitting down and relaxxxeddddd thank you..perhaps take your own advice! you're a very funny dude, guy......


AND...if you actually agree with the part i bolded...which i have said, more than once, much earlier...then WHY do you INSIST your *facts* are the ONLT right way to see this issue? bottomline....bazzer got it SPOT ON. end of discussion. :P