Way to go Minnesota

WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
edited April 2009 in A Moving Train
Why the hell would you want some one like Al Frankin representing you ? Are your brains frozen from all the snow or what. Obviously Jesse Ventura wasn't enough. It's bad enough he's a far left kook but please tell me what makes this guy qualified to be a U.S. senator. Did anybody Listen to this guy on Air America ? What a freakin joke. :roll:
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Why the hell would you want some one like Al Frankin representing you ? Are your brains frozen from all the snow or what. Obviously Jesse Ventura wasn't enough. It's bad enough he's a far left kook but please tell me what makes this guy qualified to be a U.S. senator. Did anybody Listen to this guy on Air America ? What a freakin joke. :roll:

    Two words:
    Arnold Schwartzenegger
  • good point
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Because he's good enough, smart enough, and gosh darnit, people love him. ;)
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Why the hell would you want some one like Al Frankin representing you ? Are your brains frozen from all the snow or what. Obviously Jesse Ventura wasn't enough. It's bad enough he's a far left kook but please tell me what makes this guy qualified to be a U.S. senator. Did anybody Listen to this guy on Air America ? What a freakin joke. :roll:

    Two words:
    Arnold Schwartzenegger
    Tell me if you were going down a ballot and you saw the name "Arnold Schwartzenegger" you wouldn't chuckle and check it. lol.
  • I did :lol:
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    speaking of freakin jokes, and then there's Michelle (O)Bachmann enough said
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  • ajedigeckoajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    i must admit..........it does throw a wrench into the status quo. maybe by him being elected it will tell all of the other alley pukes to get with the program, this is what will happen to you and your elected lifestyle.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,819
    puremagic wrote:
    speaking of freakin jokes, and then there's Michelle (O)Bachmann enough said

    I don't know much else about her, but anyone who has the balls to question the Federal Reserve is alright in my book.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Why the hell would you want some one like Al Frankin representing you ? Are your brains frozen from all the snow or what. Obviously Jesse Ventura wasn't enough. It's bad enough he's a far left kook but please tell me what makes this guy qualified to be a U.S. senator. Did anybody Listen to this guy on Air America ? What a freakin joke. :roll:

    Two words:
    Arnold Schwartzenegger

    Arnold does deserve way more respect the Frankin. Arnold is an extremely successful businessman prior to his political career. Frankin is more or less a laughing stock and its very hard to take him seriously.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Arnold does deserve way more respect the Frankin. Arnold is an extremely successful businessman prior to his political career. Frankin is more or less a laughing stock and its very hard to take him seriously.
    being succesful in business is probably last on my list of qualities i look for in a candidate. i count it against them if anything..
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Why the hell would you want some one like Al Frankin representing you ? Are your brains frozen from all the snow or what. Obviously Jesse Ventura wasn't enough. It's bad enough he's a far left kook but please tell me what makes this guy qualified to be a U.S. senator. Did anybody Listen to this guy on Air America ? What a freakin joke. :roll:

    Two words:
    Arnold Schwartzenegger
    Tell me if you were going down a ballot and you saw the name "Arnold Schwartzenegger" you wouldn't chuckle and check it. lol.

    lol I would.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Commy wrote:
    being succesful in business is probably last on my list of qualities i look for in a candidate. i count it against them if anything..

    thats one of the dumber things I've heard in awhile.

    Arnold is governor. governors are in charge of budgets. being a successful business man goes a long way in that regard.

    so if you had a choice, you would vote for the candidate who failed in the real world? pure genius. :roll:
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    being succesful in business is probably last on my list of qualities i look for in a candidate. i count it against them if anything..

    thats one of the dumber things I've heard in awhile.

    Arnold is governor. governors are in charge of budgets. being a successful business man goes a long way in that regard.

    so if you had a choice, you would vote for the candidate who failed in the real world? pure genius. :roll:

    But business = corporations and corporations = bad, right?

    :)

    Kidding... I do agree with you... While I don't want Donald Trump as a governor, I'd much rather have someone in that position who has been successful in the business world than some career politician.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jlew24asu wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Why the hell would you want some one like Al Frankin representing you ? Are your brains frozen from all the snow or what. Obviously Jesse Ventura wasn't enough. It's bad enough he's a far left kook but please tell me what makes this guy qualified to be a U.S. senator. Did anybody Listen to this guy on Air America ? What a freakin joke. :roll:

    Two words:
    Arnold Schwartzenegger

    Arnold does deserve way more respect the Frankin. Arnold is an extremely successful businessman prior to his political career. Frankin is more or less a laughing stock and its very hard to take him seriously.

    I think you mean Arnold's manager was a successful businessman. And what the hell do I care? My dad's a successful attorney. My mom was a successful x-ray tech. My buddy is a successful pizza store manager. Do they deserve to be governor because they're good at their job like they're supposed to be?
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    being succesful in business is probably last on my list of qualities i look for in a candidate. i count it against them if anything..

    thats one of the dumber things I've heard in awhile.

    Arnold is governor. governors are in charge of budgets. being a successful business man goes a long way in that regard.

    so if you had a choice, you would vote for the candidate who failed in the real world? pure genius. :roll:

    You mean like our last president? Didn't you vote for him? The guy that tanked every business he ever touched?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    edited April 2009

    I think you mean Arnold's manager was a successful businessman.
    no I dont mean Arnold's manager, I mean him. he became a self made millionaire long before his acting career.
    And what the hell do I care?

    personally, I like to know that the people I vote for are competent and successful in real life and the business world before I give them the power to manage something as important as my entire state's budget. but thats just me.
    My dad's a successful attorney. My mom was a successful x-ray tech. My buddy is a successful pizza store manager. Do they deserve to be governor because they're good at their job like they're supposed to be?
    do they deserve to be governor? I dont know, maybe. it does help though that they are successful.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    being succesful in business is probably last on my list of qualities i look for in a candidate. i count it against them if anything..

    thats one of the dumber things I've heard in awhile.

    Arnold is governor. governors are in charge of budgets. being a successful business man goes a long way in that regard.

    so if you had a choice, you would vote for the candidate who failed in the real world? pure genius. :roll:

    You mean like our last president? Didn't you vote for him? The guy that tanked every business he ever touched?

    I voted for bush in 2000 but not in 2004. and Obama this time around. and no, Bush didnt tank every business he touched, last I checked the Rangers are doing just fine.. besides, I dont voted primarily on a candidates business resume. anything else?
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jlew24asu wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    thats one of the dumber things I've heard in awhile.

    Arnold is governor. governors are in charge of budgets. being a successful business man goes a long way in that regard.

    so if you had a choice, you would vote for the candidate who failed in the real world? pure genius. :roll:

    You mean like our last president? Didn't you vote for him? The guy that tanked every business he ever touched?

    I voted for bush in 2000 but not in 2004. and Obama this time around. and no, Bush didnt tank every business he touched, last I checked the Rangers are doing just fine.. besides, I dont voted primarily on a candidates business resume. anything else?

    Yes, if Arnold is such a successful businessman that is obviously completely qualified to be governor of California, why is that state on the verge of bankruptcy?
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Why the hell would you want some one like Al Frankin representing you ? Are your brains frozen from all the snow or what. Obviously Jesse Ventura wasn't enough. It's bad enough he's a far left kook but please tell me what makes this guy qualified to be a U.S. senator. Did anybody Listen to this guy on Air America ? What a freakin joke. :roll:

    yeah, democracy sucks.... :roll:
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Yes, if Arnold is such a successful businessman that is obviously completely qualified to be governor of California, why is that state on the verge of bankruptcy?

    again, being a successful business man doesnt make someone "completely qualified". not sure why you keep saying that.

    and they are on the verge of bankruptcy because this country is in the worst economic crisis in the history of its existence. not sure if you noticed. that said, I would feel a million times more comfortable with a intelligent business man running the show, the a washed up comedian (Franklin) with little to no business skills.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    say is that guy's name Franklin or Franken?

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    oops, my bad, its Franken.
  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    embarassed to even admit i have family that lived in Minnesota...man St. Paul and Minneapolis has become a joke when it comes to politics
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    being succesful in business is probably last on my list of qualities i look for in a candidate. i count it against them if anything..

    thats one of the dumber things I've heard in awhile.

    Arnold is governor. governors are in charge of budgets. being a successful business man goes a long way in that regard.

    so if you had a choice, you would vote for the candidate who failed in the real world? pure genius. :roll:


    its a one party system. either way they are a business candidate. and wages reflect that. They've been stagnant for 40 years. while CEO's have seen exponential increases in salaries. they're making more money, the workers aren't.


    so yeah, another business candidate is not my idea of a good choice.

    its not that i would vote for the guy that failed, i would vote for the guy with no ties to Haliburton or wherever.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Commy wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    being succesful in business is probably last on my list of qualities i look for in a candidate. i count it against them if anything..

    thats one of the dumber things I've heard in awhile.

    Arnold is governor. governors are in charge of budgets. being a successful business man goes a long way in that regard.

    so if you had a choice, you would vote for the candidate who failed in the real world? pure genius. :roll:


    its a one party system. either way they are a business candidate. and wages reflect that. They've been stagnant for 40 years. while CEO's have seen exponential increases in salaries. they're making more money, the workers aren't.


    so yeah, another business candidate is not my idea of a good choice.

    its not that i would vote for the guy that failed, i would vote for the guy with no ties to Haliburton or wherever.

    wages arent stagnant. my wages have continued to go up since I started working when I was 16. you know how? hard work and determination. theres are novice idea eh?
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    jlew24asu wrote:
    wages arent stagnant. my wages have continued to go up since I started working when I was 16. you know how? hard work and determination. theres are novice idea eh?

    Wages for you and me aren't stagnant... our careers/jobs are still escalating. I'm 34, and am now making more than 3 times as much as I did right out of college.

    But for people our parents' age who are working the same job for the past 10-20 years, their wages aren't going up as fast as inflation and the cost of living.

    It's easy to say to work harder and try for a promotion or a better job, but for a person in their mid-50's, that is easier much said than done.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    jlew24asu wrote:
    wages arent stagnant. my wages have continued to go up since I started working when I was 16. you know how? hard work and determination. theres are novice idea eh?

    Wages for you and me aren't stagnant... our careers/jobs are still escalating. I'm 34, and am now making more than 3 times as much as I did right out of college.

    But for people our parents' age who are working the same job for the past 10-20 years, their wages aren't going up as fast as inflation and the cost of living.

    It's easy to say to work harder and try for a promotion or a better job, but for a person in their mid-50's, that is easier much said than done.

    bullshit. most companies provide yearly raises based on performance no matter how long you've been there. just because you are at a company a long time, doesnt mean you are entitled to shit.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    jlew24asu wrote:
    wages arent stagnant. my wages have continued to go up since I started working when I was 16. you know how? hard work and determination. theres are novice idea eh?


    it doesn't surprise me i can't find a link to any study showing that, Yes, wages have been stagnant since 1979. Berkely did a study on it, and there were a few others. and they found that the average wage in the United States has not gone up, relative to inflation, since 1979. this while CEO's and managers have seen exponential increases.

    Which means there has been a redistribution of wealth. Wheres the fucking right when you need them? Teabaggin for a transit system, not for the important shit I guess.

    I worked at a fast food restaurant in highschool. I went on to get more an more for my labor too, advanced myself. my wages went up. its not the point.


    average, nationwide, relative to inflation, wages for each industry have remained stagnant for 30 years now, according to Berkely, and others. and fuck that.

    labor is slavery.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Commy wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Arnold does deserve way more respect the Frankin. Arnold is an extremely successful businessman prior to his political career. Frankin is more or less a laughing stock and its very hard to take him seriously.
    being succesful in business is probably last on my list of qualities i look for in a candidate. i count it against them if anything..
    Yeah after all you wouldn't want anybody running things who know a thing or 2 about budgets or job creating.
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  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    Commy wrote:
    I worked at a fast food restaurant in highschool. I went on to get more an more for my labor too, advanced myself. my wages went up. its not the point.


    average, nationwide, relative to inflation, wages for each industry have remained stagnant for 30 years now, according to Berkely, and others. and fuck that.

    labor is slavery.

    Maybe that just means that wages were artifically inflated in the 70's (ie too high) and since then they have been levelling off. Did any of those studies look into that?
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