The NHL Playoff Thread 2008/09

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  • pearljim
    pearljim Posts: 1,312
    Another "boring" game where the Wings win....oh ho hum :)

    LET'S GO WINGS!
    If you have a chance to make life better for others, and fail to do so, you are wasting your time on this earth.

    Roberto Clemente.
  • pearljim
    pearljim Posts: 1,312
    Songburst wrote:
    blackredyellow wrote:
    That could be the most asinine thing that I've ever read regarding sports...

    GM: "Hey coach, why were the players flying around up and down the ice giving up all sorts of scoring chances in our 7-5 loss? It was like a jailbreak out there."

    Coach: "Because boss, I'm here to entertain the fans... it would be nice if we won, but above all, we just want to put on a good show"

    GM: "Entertain?!?!?! we're in 12 place... start packing up your office, because you're fired."


    Coaches are paid to win games, period...

    You seem to be getting actual sports confused with professional wrestling.

    In your little fictional conversation, any GM worth his salt would likely have said: "Did you see how worked up the crowd was even though we lost that game 7-5? I bet you that every person that was at this game will come back and see these teams play each other again. Great game." A GM's bread is buttered by asses in the seats and little else.

    I would rather watch a 12th place team that plays hard and entertains night after night than watch a machine-team rattle off Cup after Cup without playing any emotional hockey.

    I found it very interesting that a couple of Hawks players said that they found it hard to get into the Wings games because there was no animosity or trash-talking between the two teams during the game. The Wings kept their mouths shut, played their ultra-disciplined system and lulled their opponent into yet another loss.

    Songburst I understand a little of what you're saying but really not 1 GM would be saying that. I have always said that I'd rather the Tigers have 20 guys who were good and competitive but not mega stars with huge contracts if it kept ticket prices low where I could take my family without breaking the bank (see Yankees).

    But I don't feel that way yet with hockey because:
    A)the players don't make nearly as much as baseball players.
    B)I love the sport.

    Now regarding what some Hawks said - That is immaturity talking. No player could play 82 games hating everyone and giving it his all to beat them then go into the palyoffs hating everyone giving it his all each and every game and expect to be alive at the end. Case in point: 1st period yesterday Hawks were flying! 2nd period 3 shots! Would you say Hawks were boring and did you turn off the game because of it?

    Winning puts asses in the seats (see Lions for the reverse :) )
    If you have a chance to make life better for others, and fail to do so, you are wasting your time on this earth.

    Roberto Clemente.
  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    pearljim wrote:
    Another "boring" game where the Wings win....oh ho hum :)

    LET'S GO WINGS!

    You saw it too? I actually watched all of game 2. There really wasn't much in the way of emotion. Even the crowd really wasn't that into it until the OT winner. I've seen worse games but the intensity that I saw in the other series' that I have watched this year is so glaringly lacking in this Wings-Hawks series. Maybe the Chicago crowd can generate some intensity by the frenzied atmosphere that they have created in their home games these playoffs.
    1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
  • pearljim
    pearljim Posts: 1,312
    Songburst wrote:
    pearljim wrote:
    Another "boring" game where the Wings win....oh ho hum :)

    LET'S GO WINGS!

    You saw it too? I actually watched all of game 2. There really wasn't much in the way of emotion. Even the crowd really wasn't that into it until the OT winner. I've seen worse games but the intensity that I saw in the other series' that I have watched this year is so glaringly lacking in this Wings-Hawks series. Maybe the Chicago crowd can generate some intensity by the frenzied atmosphere that they have created in their home games these playoffs.

    Oh the Chicago crowd will have their ever so clever chant "Detroit Sucks" going loud and clear :) But that just shows off their envy of the Wings. Sure Chicago the city is nicer, hell I wouldn't mind living there, but I love the people of Detroit's attitude and work ethic.

    I'll give you the fact that Joe Louis Arena is not nearly as raucous as the United Center but that's because we've been here, a LOT of times recently :)

    Songburst, if you don't mind me saying, I think you'd have been front row center back in Gladiator times!

    If Wings win 6-0 Friday night but the fans are loud and hostile does it make it a good game, just wondering?
    If you have a chance to make life better for others, and fail to do so, you are wasting your time on this earth.

    Roberto Clemente.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Songburst wrote:
    pearljim wrote:
    Another "boring" game where the Wings win....oh ho hum :)

    LET'S GO WINGS!

    You saw it too? I actually watched all of game 2. There really wasn't much in the way of emotion. Even the crowd really wasn't that into it until the OT winner. I've seen worse games but the intensity that I saw in the other series' that I have watched this year is so glaringly lacking in this Wings-Hawks series. Maybe the Chicago crowd can generate some intensity by the frenzied atmosphere that they have created in their home games these playoffs.
    I believe that you have intensty and emotion confused.....intensity results in a three on one breakway in your favor in OT.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • pearljim
    pearljim Posts: 1,312
    tybird wrote:
    Songburst wrote:
    pearljim wrote:
    Another "boring" game where the Wings win....oh ho hum :)

    LET'S GO WINGS!

    You saw it too? I actually watched all of game 2. There really wasn't much in the way of emotion. Even the crowd really wasn't that into it until the OT winner. I've seen worse games but the intensity that I saw in the other series' that I have watched this year is so glaringly lacking in this Wings-Hawks series. Maybe the Chicago crowd can generate some intensity by the frenzied atmosphere that they have created in their home games these playoffs.
    I believe that you have intensty and emotion confused.....intensity results in a three on one breakway in your favor in OT.

    INTENSITY! Thank you Tybird that was the word I've been looking for.
    Hopefully the only emotion we'll get from Chicago are tears after they lose the series :)

    In case Brad Stuart is on the forum there was an article on how Kane played with dolls with his sisters in trade for them to play sports with him - nice scrum material :)
    If you have a chance to make life better for others, and fail to do so, you are wasting your time on this earth.

    Roberto Clemente.
  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    pearljim wrote:
    Songburst wrote:
    pearljim wrote:
    Another "boring" game where the Wings win....oh ho hum :)

    LET'S GO WINGS!

    You saw it too? I actually watched all of game 2. There really wasn't much in the way of emotion. Even the crowd really wasn't that into it until the OT winner. I've seen worse games but the intensity that I saw in the other series' that I have watched this year is so glaringly lacking in this Wings-Hawks series. Maybe the Chicago crowd can generate some intensity by the frenzied atmosphere that they have created in their home games these playoffs.

    Oh the Chicago crowd will have their ever so clever chant "Detroit Sucks" going loud and clear :) But that just shows off their envy of the Wings. Sure Chicago the city is nicer, hell I wouldn't mind living there, but I love the people of Detroit's attitude and work ethic.

    I'll give you the fact that Joe Louis Arena is not nearly as raucous as the United Center but that's because we've been here, a LOT of times recently :)

    Songburst, if you don't mind me saying, I think you'd have been front row center back in Gladiator times!

    If Wings win 6-0 Friday night but the fans are loud and hostile does it make it a good game, just wondering?
    Gladiator times? You think that I just want to see fights? Maybe you had to have to played the game competitively to fully understand what I'm after when I watch a hockey game. The number of goals and shots and fights have nothing to do with the entertainment factor of a game (although a game with lots of fights in it usually results in an entertaining game because fights really get players engaged in the game for some reason). Anyway -- enough of me bashing the Wings style of play. Obvously there are people who like watching it for some reason and that's fine. It just isn't for me. Cheers.
    1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
  • pearljim
    pearljim Posts: 1,312
    Gladiator times? You think that I just want to see fights? Maybe you had to have to played the game competitively to fully understand what I'm after when I watch a hockey game. The number of goals and shots and fights have nothing to do with the entertainment factor of a game (although a game with lots of fights in it usually results in an entertaining game because fights really get players engaged in the game for some reason). Anyway -- enough of me bashing the Wings style of play. Obvously there are people who like watching it for some reason and that's fine. It just isn't for me. Cheers.[/quote]

    Songburst I didn't mean the Gladiator/hockey fighting comparison. Meant something along the lines of visual/instant result???? I'm not finding the right words - sorry.

    As I stated earlier no way you can play with emotion a whole season. Fighting has its place in hockey but Bettman doesn't think so but yet he allows all this after the whistle shit. Now from what I've read into some of your posts you'd like that as it may bring out emotion. To me it's a free ride to possibly injure an opposing player and not have to worry about being penalized (see game 6 vs Anaheim). Now I might like it if Detroit had Probert and Kocur out there :)

    Anyways keep adding your 2 cents, that's why it's a forum.
    If you have a chance to make life better for others, and fail to do so, you are wasting your time on this earth.

    Roberto Clemente.
  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    pearljim wrote:
    Gladiator times? You think that I just want to see fights? Maybe you had to have to played the game competitively to fully understand what I'm after when I watch a hockey game. The number of goals and shots and fights have nothing to do with the entertainment factor of a game (although a game with lots of fights in it usually results in an entertaining game because fights really get players engaged in the game for some reason). Anyway -- enough of me bashing the Wings style of play. Obvously there are people who like watching it for some reason and that's fine. It just isn't for me. Cheers.

    Songburst I didn't mean the Gladiator/hockey fighting comparison. Meant something along the lines of visual/instant result???? I'm not finding the right words - sorry.

    As I stated earlier no way you can play with emotion a whole season. Fighting has its place in hockey but Bettman doesn't think so but yet he allows all this after the whistle shit. Now from what I've read into some of your posts you'd like that as it may bring out emotion. To me it's a free ride to possibly injure an opposing player and not have to worry about being penalized (see game 6 vs Anaheim). Now I might like it if Detroit had Probert and Kocur out there :)

    Anyways keep adding your 2 cents, that's why it's a forum.
    I think I've taking my argument as far as I can take it. No worries about the gladiator thing -- I didn't take it right either.

    I miss the days of Probert / Kocur. Those were always interesting games when they were in the lineup. Maybe it is all about the fighting after all -- lol.
    1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    Did I write these unknowingly? The second link is a good back and forth not unlike the past few pages of this thread. Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks that Wings hockey is boring hockey.

    http://sportsroids.com/2009/05/19/detro ... ng-hockey/

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_d ... =nhl,85605


    Great hockey game to watch tonight whether you are a fan of these teams or not.
    1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
  • All5horizons1991
    All5horizons1991 Posts: 138
    Malkin...WOW. Just WOW.
    I can't teach common sense.
  • aspoonfulweighsaton
    aspoonfulweighsaton Posts: 2,067
    All5horizons1991 wrote:
    Malkin...WOW. Just WOW.


    That backhand for the hat trick was a thing of beauty. Him and Crosby are on fire and I don't realistically see them being stopped.
  • greenmanny
    greenmanny Posts: 766
    aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:
    All5horizons1991 wrote:
    Malkin...WOW. Just WOW.


    That backhand for the hat trick was a thing of beauty. Him and Crosby are on fire and I don't realistically see them being stopped.

    Don't worry. The Wings will stop them in the finals. Go Wings!
  • longroadpittsburgh
    longroadpittsburgh Posts: 24
    LET"S GO PENS

    Game 2 was a very exciting game to watch for any sports fan not just hockey fans. The final score does not reflect how close the first 50 minutes actually were. Malkin just took the game over. The desire to win and the skill of the penguins I do not think can be matched by any of the remaining teams. If the pens can finish off the canes i think the rematch final with the wings will be an amazing series. I think the pens can beat the wings this year. if the pens make it to the finals Sid will not let this team lose again.

    LET"S GO PENS
  • aspoonfulweighsaton
    aspoonfulweighsaton Posts: 2,067
    Exactly... I cannot wait to see Hossa's expression if that plays out. Taking a one year deal to try to chase a cup and then lose to the team that offered you a better deal... what a pussy. At least Bourque waited until he was about to retire before jumping the shark.
  • milarso
    milarso Posts: 1,280
    aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:
    Exactly... I cannot wait to see Hossa's expression if that plays out. Taking a one year deal to try to chase a cup and then lose to the team that offered you a better deal... what a pussy. At least Bourque waited until he was about to retire before jumping the shark.

    Or maybe Hossa just didn't like playing in Pittsburgh where they put an individual over the team...
    "The dude abides. I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' her easy for all us sinners."
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    milarso wrote:
    aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:
    Exactly... I cannot wait to see Hossa's expression if that plays out. Taking a one year deal to try to chase a cup and then lose to the team that offered you a better deal... what a pussy. At least Bourque waited until he was about to retire before jumping the shark.

    Or maybe Hossa just didn't like playing in Pittsburgh where they put an individual over the team...
    +1

    Go Wings
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • righteousbabe
    righteousbabe Posts: 662
    aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:
    Exactly... I cannot wait to see Hossa's expression if that plays out. Taking a one year deal to try to chase a cup and then lose to the team that offered you a better deal... what a pussy. At least Bourque waited until he was about to retire before jumping the shark.

    +1

    Go Pens
  • aspoonfulweighsaton
    aspoonfulweighsaton Posts: 2,067
    milarso wrote:
    aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:
    Exactly... I cannot wait to see Hossa's expression if that plays out. Taking a one year deal to try to chase a cup and then lose to the team that offered you a better deal... what a pussy. At least Bourque waited until he was about to retire before jumping the shark.

    Or maybe Hossa just didn't like playing in Pittsburgh where they put an individual over the team...


    If you want to accuse the NHL of promoting the best player in the league, that's fine. But the Penguins as a team and organization have always treated their stable of players equally. They made sure to get Malkin and Staal locked up for a while and Crosby took less than his market value for his deal so they would have more to spread around.

    You are either an idiot or simply know nothing about hockey.
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,337
    Hawks WIN!!!!!!

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