for all the kanye haters...
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I just thought I'd bring this to the attention of the Kanye haters. Say what you want about the man, but how many people would respond like this to South Park (or anyone) taking potshots at them.
From his blog:
SOUTH PARK MURDERED ME LAST NIGHT AND IT'S PRETTY FUNNY. IT HURTS MY FEELINGS BUT WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FROM SOUTH PARK! I ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON MY EGO THOUGH. HAVING THE CRAZY EGO IS PLAYED OUT AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE AND CAREER. I USE TO USE IT TO BUILD UP MY ESTEEM WHEN NOBODY BELIEVED IN ME. NOW THAT PEOPLE DO BELIEVE AND SUPPORT MY MUSIC AND PRODUCTS THE BEST RESPONSE IS THANK YOU INSTEAD OF "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" IT'S COOL TO TALK SHIT WHEN YOU'RE RAPPING BUT NOT IN REAL LIFE. WHEN YOU MEET LITTLE WAYNE IN PERSON HE'S THE NICEST GUY FOR EXAMPLE. I JUST WANNA BE A DOPER PERSON WHICH STARTS WITH ME NOT ALWAYS TELLING PEOPLE HOW DOPE I THINK I AM. I NEED TO JUST GET PAST MYSELF. DROP THE BRAVADO AND JUST MAKE DOPE PRODUCT. EVERYTHING IS NOT THAT SERIOUS. AS LONG AS PEOPLE THINK I ACT LIKE A BITCH THIS TYPE OF SHIT WILL HAPPEN TO ME. I GOT A LONG ROAD AHEAD OF ME TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE I'M NOT ACTUALLY A HUGE DOUCHE BUT I'M UP FOR THE CHALLENGE. I'M SURE THE WRITERS AT SOUTH PARK ARE REALLY NICE PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE. THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DRAW MY CREW. THAT WAS PRETTY FUNNY ALSO!! I'M SURE THERE'S GRAMMATICAL ERRORS IN THIS... THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW IT'S ME!
Personally I am a BIG fan of his and have been from the moment I heard Through the Wire and at the time I think hip hop desperately needed kanye. He was (and is) definitely a breath of fresh air. Moreover I think that he has a lot to say and as such is a versatile rapper (i.e. he can make a damn good party song, a touching love song and also talk about some real shit). I won't even bother talking about his production because it speaks for itself. I also never took his bravado and ego as seriously as other people have. I always felt like he was taking the piss a little, like all his talking always seemed very tongue in cheek to me (albeit I do admit that some of the Storytellers stuff was a little crazy).
just my two cents.
From his blog:
SOUTH PARK MURDERED ME LAST NIGHT AND IT'S PRETTY FUNNY. IT HURTS MY FEELINGS BUT WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FROM SOUTH PARK! I ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON MY EGO THOUGH. HAVING THE CRAZY EGO IS PLAYED OUT AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE AND CAREER. I USE TO USE IT TO BUILD UP MY ESTEEM WHEN NOBODY BELIEVED IN ME. NOW THAT PEOPLE DO BELIEVE AND SUPPORT MY MUSIC AND PRODUCTS THE BEST RESPONSE IS THANK YOU INSTEAD OF "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" IT'S COOL TO TALK SHIT WHEN YOU'RE RAPPING BUT NOT IN REAL LIFE. WHEN YOU MEET LITTLE WAYNE IN PERSON HE'S THE NICEST GUY FOR EXAMPLE. I JUST WANNA BE A DOPER PERSON WHICH STARTS WITH ME NOT ALWAYS TELLING PEOPLE HOW DOPE I THINK I AM. I NEED TO JUST GET PAST MYSELF. DROP THE BRAVADO AND JUST MAKE DOPE PRODUCT. EVERYTHING IS NOT THAT SERIOUS. AS LONG AS PEOPLE THINK I ACT LIKE A BITCH THIS TYPE OF SHIT WILL HAPPEN TO ME. I GOT A LONG ROAD AHEAD OF ME TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE I'M NOT ACTUALLY A HUGE DOUCHE BUT I'M UP FOR THE CHALLENGE. I'M SURE THE WRITERS AT SOUTH PARK ARE REALLY NICE PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE. THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DRAW MY CREW. THAT WAS PRETTY FUNNY ALSO!! I'M SURE THERE'S GRAMMATICAL ERRORS IN THIS... THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW IT'S ME!
Personally I am a BIG fan of his and have been from the moment I heard Through the Wire and at the time I think hip hop desperately needed kanye. He was (and is) definitely a breath of fresh air. Moreover I think that he has a lot to say and as such is a versatile rapper (i.e. he can make a damn good party song, a touching love song and also talk about some real shit). I won't even bother talking about his production because it speaks for itself. I also never took his bravado and ego as seriously as other people have. I always felt like he was taking the piss a little, like all his talking always seemed very tongue in cheek to me (albeit I do admit that some of the Storytellers stuff was a little crazy).
just my two cents.
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The funny thing is people who listen to good hip hop (not saying kanye is) think rock music sucks becasue all they are familar with is the crap on the radio.
I'm not a big rap or hip hop fan, but i've had friends play me some stuff that i think is very talented and good it is just not to my liking.
As for the Kanye's response. It was pretty cool of him. There have been occasions he has anoyed me, but i think he took the best approach possible here for the most part.
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More power to the guy for doing a little self-analysis. I was worried he was going off the deep end Britney Spears style. But I also tried not to take him too seriously, kinda how I approach the Gallagher brothers... just figured they were having fun with their image. His talent is pretty undeniable, though I didn't like his last album at all.
Kanye is a douche and all his public displays of (insert negative adjective here) probably ruined his JayZ-esque career.
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What a tool!
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Nobody's been worked up about being spoofed on SP? Isaac Hayes left the show becos they made fun of scientology. Not to mention, Kanye didn't say he was worked up about it, he seems to see the truth of their satire and it's caused him to reflect a little bit on his douchebag comments. Maybe that's a good thing.
I think there is a big difference between exaggerating people's personal quirks and attacking a religion. I would even say that Chef was a bit of a spoof of Isaac Hayes, himself.
I said in my post that Kanye wasn't worked up about it. He sees the truth of the satire? Maybe, but I think he's just trying to fix his public persona.
What difference does it make? Is it such a bad thing if he cleans up his act? Or would that piss you off becos you get off on tearing other people down?
I don't really think I'm tearing anybody down?
I guess speaking as a guy who was a complete fuck up for several years, I'm all for supporting people that are trying to get their shit together. When Britney lost it, I just felt bad for her and I'm happy to see she seems to have gotten a handle on her shit again. If Kanye can rein in his douchebag tendencies and grow up a bit to be a decent guy, I'm all for that. Shit, PJ were no saints either. None of us would look very good if we had everything we did in our 20s broadcast to the world, let alone at the exact moment everyone was kissing our ass and giving us millions of dollars of play money. So I'm not big on passing judgment on people in circumstances I'll never understand, and I definitely prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt when they say they're making an effort to turn the corner some of their less desirable traits.
i know right.
he still sounds like a gay fish to me.
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See I just don't get these arguments about how he doesn't have substance. Have any of you listened to his albums? He has continually taken huge risks and THAT's why I say he's what hip hop needs and that he gives it a good name.
One of the biggest singles from his debut album was Jesus Walks. Now whatever you feel about religion, how many people can put out a pop song about God and still kill it?
We rappers are role models we rap we don't think
I ain't here to argue about his facial features
Or here to convert atheists into believers
I'm just trying to say the way school need teachers
The way Kathie Lee needed Regis that's the way I need Jesus
So here go my single dog radio needs this
They say you can rap about anything except for Jesus
That means guns, sex, lies, video tapes
But if I talk about God my record won't get played Huh?
Well let this take away from my spins
Which will probably take away from my ends
Then I hope this take away from my sins
So how can you say he has no substance or that he is only worried about his wallet.
Then with the next record, first single he dropped was Diamonds From Sierra Leone. Same deal, he decided to talk about some real shit and took a look in the mirror, essentially saying that the whole rap game is messed up (including himself) because of the materialism espoused in lyrics.
Though it's thousands of miles away
Sierra Leone connect to what we go through today
Over here, its a drug trade, we die from drugs
Over there, they die from what we buy from drugs
The diamonds, the chains, the bracelets, the charmses
I thought my Jesus Piece was so harmless
'til I seen a picture of a shorty armless
And here's the conflict
It's in a black person's soul to rock that gold
Spend ya whole life tryna get that ice
Forget the social consciousness. Kanye is one of the few rappers who has made it OK to be fragile and sensitive, especially with 808s. Moreover, I think he has really broken down the walls in the hip hop community with his lover affair with other genres of music. He loves good music no matter what it is and doesn't compartmentalize things.
I just think people are super lame with their Kanye arguments on this board and it just irritates me how close minded people seem. I am hardly Kanye's biggest fan, as far as hip hop is concerned, I wouldn't put him up there with Tribe, Wu Tang or De La Soul but truth is that currently he is one of the better examples of POPULAR hip hop music. I just think people who complain about the bravado forget or don't realize that it is a fundamental characteristic of hip hop that goes all the way back to its roots in Jamaican ragga/dancehall culture.
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anyway....good on Kanye for these comments. I haven't seen the episode, and don't know much about Kanye, aside from his image...but at the very least, this is good image control...if he's sincere, good for him. I hope he's successful at becoming a doper person.
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Uh, that was conspiracy nut hippy liberals that I called brain dead zombies and loons. Not drug users.
Might have been. I did toss in something about how I hadn't done enough lsd to reach that level of hippy-dom, but I'd never hate on drug users. I'm not one anymore, but some of my best memories are of the psychedelic variety... just don't think it's particularly useful for solving real world political problems is all
Then, I thought about what the Fishsticks episode (which was fantastic, btw) was saying, as well as some comments here and from Kanye about his ego -- and I think was really bugs me about him is what bugs me about Paris Hilton, which is the idea that talent isn't as important as self-promotion. I mean, Kanye's great, but half of his lyrics are about how great he is. "Famous for being famous" isn't much different that becoming famous because you tell people how famous you should be. Even Jesus Walks, which was copied here, is not about Jesus per se, but about how skillful Kanye must be to sing about Jesus.
That's called Auto-Tune... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-tune
Auto-Tune is a proprietary audio processor created by Antares Audio Technologies that uses a phase vocoder to correct pitch in vocal and instrumental performances. It is used to disguise inaccuracies and mistakes, and has allowed many artists to produce more precisely tuned recordings.
In addition to being used to subtly change pitch, with some settings it can be used as an effect to deliberately distort the human voice.
Auto-Tune is available as a plug-in for professional audio multi-tracking suites used in a studio setting, and as a stand-alone, rack-mounted unit for live performance processing. Auto-Tune has become standard equipment in professional recording studios.
Auto-Tune was initially created by Andy Hildebrand. Hildebrand realized the work that he did on seismic data exploration was applicable to detecting pitch.
Auto-Tune was used to produce the prominent effect on Cher's "Believe", recorded in 1998. When first interviewed about this, the sound engineers claimed that they had used a vocoder, in what Sound on Sound perceives as an attempt to preserve a trade secret.
R&B singer T-Pain has been credited with revitalizing the technique in contemporary popular music by making active use of it in his songs, a style that has since gone on to be imitated by numerous other R&B and pop-music artists.
According to the Boston Herald, "Country stars Reba McEntire, Faith Hill and Tim McGraw have all confessed to using Auto-Tune in performance, claiming it is a safety net that guarantees a good performance." Sara Evans, John Michael Montgomery and Gary LeVox of the group Rascal Flatts also rely on Auto-Tune to compensate for pitch problems. However, other country music singers, such as Loretta Lynn, Allison Moorer, Trisha Yearwood, Vince Gill, Garth Brooks, Martina McBride, and Patty Loveless have refused to use Auto-Tune.
In 2009, Time magazine quoted an unnamed Grammy-winning recording engineer as saying, "Let's just say I've had Auto-Tune save vocals on everything from Britney Spears to Bollywood [soundtrack] albums. And every singer now presumes that you'll just run their voice through the box." The same article expressed "hope that pop's fetish for uniform perfect pitch will fade," speculating that pop-music songs have become harder to differentiate from one another, as "track after track has perfect pitch." At the 51st Grammy Awards, Seattle band Death Cab for Cutie made an appearance wearing blue ribbons to protest the use of Auto-Tune in the music industry.