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The Worst Thing About Layne Dying

Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
edited April 2009 in Other Music
Is that he is unable to defend his honor against the horrid, horrid band GODSMACK

Fuck yourself Sully...fuck yourself sideways with the biggest watermelon in the patch...
"No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    its interesting he died on the same day as cobain.
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  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    And on his good friend Mike's Birthday...bet it's really bittersweet for Mike :cry:
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
  • AtlantaJammerAtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    PJ_kidd121492 wrote:
    its interesting he died on the same day as cobain.


    I could be wrong but wasnt his day of death a guesstimate? I could be completely wrong but I thought they found Layne days or even weeks after his presumed death?
  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    No, you are not wrong, but it is considered a good 'scientific' guess
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    AtlantaJammer wrote:
    PJ_kidd121492 wrote:
    its interesting he died on the same day as cobain.


    I could be wrong but wasnt his day of death a guesstimate? I could be completely wrong but I thought they found Layne days or even weeks after his presumed death?
    Yah same with Cobain it was a guess of the death date. So no one knows if thats the true date or not.
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  • OGT92OGT92 Posts: 1,588
    AtlantaJammer wrote:
    PJ_kidd121492 wrote:
    its interesting he died on the same day as cobain.


    I could be wrong but wasnt his day of death a guesstimate? I could be completely wrong but I thought they found Layne days or even weeks after his presumed death?

    I believe he was found on the 20th. Since the Pearl Jam hidden song on Lost Dogs about Layne is called 4/20/02.
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  • AtlantaJammerAtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    OGT92 wrote:
    AtlantaJammer wrote:
    PJ_kidd121492 wrote:
    its interesting he died on the same day as cobain.


    I could be wrong but wasnt his day of death a guesstimate? I could be completely wrong but I thought they found Layne days or even weeks after his presumed death?

    I believe he was found on the 20th. Since the Pearl Jam hidden song on Lost Dogs about Layne is called 4/20/02.


    Thats what I had originally thought. Thanks.
  • OGT92OGT92 Posts: 1,588
    I could be wrong but wasnt his day of death a guesstimate? I could be completely wrong but I thought they found Layne days or even weeks after his presumed death?[/quote]

    I believe he was found on the 20th. Since the Pearl Jam hidden song on Lost Dogs about Layne is called 4/20/02.[/quote]


    Thats what I had originally thought. Thanks.[/quote]

    Not a problem.
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  • cordurologycordurology Posts: 227
    I read on Wikipedia that at the time of his death, Layne weighed 86 lbs. He was 6'1". So, so so so sad.
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    cordurology wrote:
    I read on Wikipedia that at the time of his death, Layne weighed 86 lbs. He was 6'1". So, so so so sad.
    OMG. thats intense.
    what drugs was he into? sounds like speed was one of them.
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  • Jill-oJill-o Posts: 33
    AtlantaJammer wrote:
    PJ_kidd121492 wrote:
    its interesting he died on the same day as cobain.


    I could be wrong but wasnt his day of death a guesstimate? I could be completely wrong but I thought they found Layne days or even weeks after his presumed death?

    Yep, I remember feeling very very sad about his death when it happened, mostly because no one found him for so long. So terrible that someone like Layne Staley could be dead for two weeks before anyone even noticed he wasn't around. Still bothers me to think about it.
  • cordurologycordurology Posts: 227
    PJ_kidd121492 wrote:
    cordurology wrote:
    I read on Wikipedia that at the time of his death, Layne weighed 86 lbs. He was 6'1". So, so so so sad.
    OMG. thats intense.
    what drugs was he into? sounds like speed was one of them.

    As far as I know, heroin was the biggie.



    Here's the wiki excerpt about his death..

    On April 19, 2002, an unidentified person placed a call with 911 to say "She hadn't heard from… [Staley] in about two weeks."[19] Staley was found dead in his home after, "his mother and stepfather went to his condo with the police."[20] As reported by Rick Anderson of the Seattle Weekly, his body was surrounded by various drug possessions and paraphernalia: "When police kicked in the door to Layne Staley's University District apartment on April 20, there, on a couch, lit by a flickering TV, next to several spray-paint cans on the floor, not far from a small stash of cocaine, near two crack pipes on the coffee table, reposed the remains of the rock musician." The article also stated that the 6'1" Staley weighed just 86 pounds when his body was discovered.[21] The autopsy report later concluded that Staley died after injecting a mixture of heroin and cocaine known as a "speedball". The King County Coroner's Office estimated Staley to have died on April 5, 2002, exactly 8 years after fellow grunge musician Kurt Cobain also died (Cobain was found three days later, on April 8). Staley's body was not discovered until two weeks later.

    :cry:
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,313
    just listened to both the nirvana and AIC unplugged shows...that last bit on "where did you sleep last night" is so fucking intense. what a fucking shame.
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  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    Kurt's probably still shivering... :(
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
    NewJPage wrote:
    just listened to both the nirvana and AIC unplugged shows...that last bit on "where did you sleep last night" is so fucking intense. what a fucking shame.


    Yeah. During the last line when Kurt takes a breath and opens his eyes is so fucking haunting. I hate it that he's dead and that Layne is dead...and Shannon Hoon....that the intensity of their music carried over into their lives..and that they never felt high enough to be content. A fucking shame indeed.


    If I knew where it was I would take you there. There's much more than this
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,784
    Layne went down hill due to depression from his girlfirend dying from a tragic disease, right?
  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    edited April 2009
    Not to get all Mr. Mackey, but........

    Drugs are bad...I'm talking about your OXYCOTTON, your METH, your HEROIN, your COKE...

    I got stuck in that fucking smack rut for three years of my life...got thrown out of my very popular (although not monetarily succesful) band, lost my sweet-hearted beautiful girlfriend and ALL of my friends...I kicked it though, and I kicked it alone...just about lost my mind completely...I weighed 198 pounds then (at 6' 11") and weigh 245lbs now (which happens to be my 'ideal weight' for my height and build)...You do not need any of these drugs to be more creative, more cool, or to validate your street cred...I basically chose drugs to be a part of something bigger, I wanted to be a real figure on the 90's Minneapolis music scene (which was quite a scene if you pay attention to your (shrug) 'grunge' history) and I thought if I shot dope, I would be one of the cool kids like K*%* in Run Westy Run (which was referred to as Run Junkie Run when I knew them) and I ended up wasting a good chunk of my supposed youth...luckily I was able to see Bob Stinson working in my restaurant (Pronto Ristorante in the Hyatt Regency) as a fucking pantry cook...AFTER all the success of the REPLACEMENTS...real glamorous watching 'Fat Bob' sneak off the line to go puke again...concentrate on your life and whatever your goals are...and, if you don't mind too much, have some fucking goals, otherwise you are not being part of any solution...fucking wasted youth is a shame...

    Sorry to preach,

    It almost definately will not happen again...bad time of the year for me I guess.......
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  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    Demri died from a bacterial infection she acquired from shooting dope...hardly tragic

    Jesus we do worship these people don't we... :cry:
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
  • DocChicagoDocChicago Posts: 653
    36 year old PJ addict wrote:
    Is that he is unable to defend his honor against the horrid, horrid band GODSMACK

    Fuck yourself Sully...fuck yourself sideways with the biggest watermelon in the patch...
    Come on, there are much bigger musical affronts than Godsmack. They're copycats for sure, but I think AIC's legacy is safe.
    It is time to admit that we used to rock like hurricanes. It is time to run for the hills and go round and round. It is time for us to shout at the devil. We've got the right to choose it, there ain't no way we'll lose it, and we're not gonna take it anymore.
    - C. Klosterman
  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    the legacy is safe, but there are hardly any worse offenders that come to mind..I'm sticking to my guns...not gonna budge!!!
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    36 year old PJ addict wrote:
    the legacy is safe, but there are hardly any worse offenders that come to mind..I'm sticking to my guns...not gonna budge!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGZmpImk8IA
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  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    wow...
    neat...
    brilliant....
    karaoke with a backing band...


    What the fuck?

    Maybe he could start a band called SICKMAN and really knock the alternative scene on it's ear...

    Write your own fucking music
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    36 year old PJ addict wrote:
    wow...
    neat...
    brilliant....
    karaoke with a backing band...


    What the fuck?

    Maybe he could start a band called SICKMAN and really knock the alternative scene on it's ear...

    Write your own fucking music
    Lol -- I thought you might like that. You should see their rendition of Hunger Strike.
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  • 2LightYears2LightYears Posts: 69
    He was into heroin for a LOOOOOONNNNNG time. The cover for the album Dirt was a painting he did when he realized that he was probably never going to be able to quit, and the album is basically the chronicle of a junkie from beginning to end.

    Hell of a loss... he and Eddie were probably the two most imitated voices from that time.

    To quote Jerry Cantrell:
    It's getting a little ridiculous with all these new generation "grunge" bands. Sounds like there's 20 new Pearl Jams popping up everyday. Folks, there's already one Eddie Vedder and he's doing quite fine.
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  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    +1

    That's Demri on the cover of DIRT by the way....
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    36 year old PJ addict wrote:
    Is that he is unable to defend his honor against the horrid, horrid band GODSMACK

    Fuck yourself Sully...fuck yourself sideways with the biggest watermelon in the patch...

    Hey man, it's cool if you hate Godsmack. Personally I like them. They chose an AIC song as a tribute because they were a legendary band. Godsmack in no way resemble grunge or try to copy their style in any way. IF Layne were still alive, why would he have to defend himself against a highly successful band. Even though you hate them, you can't deny that they are successful in another style of music. I honestly don't think he would have any beef, seeing that Godsmack became successful 4 years before Layne's death.
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

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  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    GODSMACK rips off the sound, their 'logo' is basically an AIC logo...their name is a TRIBUTE??!!! I can't even argue any further if you don't think they sound similar...are you a cat? maybe a tree frog? You cannot be a human because any human would know that your statement is, in a word, nuts.

    wow... :roll:

    P.S. I'm not using profanity because if, and I really mean IF you are a human, you are an infant and cussing at babies is NEVER cool..... :P
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    36 year old PJ addict wrote:
    GODSMACK rips off the sound, their 'logo' is basically an AIC logo...their name is a TRIBUTE??!!! I can't even argue any further if you don't think they sound similar...are you a cat? maybe a tree frog? You cannot be a human because any human would know that your statement is, in a word, nuts.

    wow... :roll:

    P.S. I'm not using profanity because if, and I really mean IF you are a human, you are an infant and cussing at babies is NEVER cool..... :P

    WOW, ease up on the obsession. How in any way does Godsmack sound like AIC?????? have you ever listened to them? They are more metal than grunge. So you're only argument is a logo? Tree frog.. Man, immature doesn't cover it with you. Look, you can hate Godsmack I am totally cool with that. But if that's all you got, that is pretty weak. You're post is laughable, as are you. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

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  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    Sorry about the tree frog comment, clearly you are a cat.......

    We'll just have to agree to disagree :lol:
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
  • PappasPappas Posts: 809
    its such a shame layne took the path he took. his work with alice in chains and mad season was simply sensational. He was up there with Eddie and Kurt as the most talented singer of the 90's, with such a unique voice and great grasp on putting melodies to lyrics.

    imagine if he was still around what kind of stuff Mad Season (if Saunders was also still around) would make, and also Alice in Chains (if he was still in the band). Imgaine if him Eddie and Chris Cornell got together and made a song together.

    RIP to a truly talented legend
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