Why all these shootings?

fugawzi
fugawzi Posts: 891
edited April 2009 in A Moving Train
Some guy here in Pittsburgh killed three cops and wounded 2 others this morning. Unfortunately this scumbag didn't take himself out. So why all these random shootings lately? I know it's something that happens everyday but there has been a spike in guys shooting multiple innocent people lately. Is it the economy or something or just crazy assholes who shouldn't have guns? The AP is saying the guy from this morning "recently had been upset about losing his job and that he feared President Barack Obama’s administration was poised to ban guns." Fucking gun nuts. If they're so in love with their gun why don't they just use it on themselves?
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  • yoke
    yoke Posts: 1,440
    fugawzi wrote:
    Some guy here in Pittsburgh killed three cops and wounded 2 others this morning. Unfortunately this scumbag didn't take himself out. So why all these random shootings lately? I know it's something that happens everyday but there has been a spike in guys shooting multiple innocent people lately. Is it the economy or something or just crazy assholes who shouldn't have guns? The AP is saying the guy from this morning "recently had been upset about losing his job and that he feared President Barack Obama’s administration was poised to ban guns." Fucking gun nuts. If they're so in love with their gun why don't they just use it on themselves?


    some do use it on themselves and others don't. I think its a couple things. People are freaking out right now and don't know whats going on in the country/world. Also, its the change of seasons, people always get loopy this time of year. I remember back in school as soon as it started getting warmer there would be more and more fights in the hallways.

    Also, I wouldn't put it passed the Obama camp to try and get some gun bans on the books. Cuz you know 90% of the guns used in Mexican Cartels are US guns :roll: ....
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    This administration is taking away rights and spending money like nobody's business. It is fools like this guy who gives them the reason.

    Also screw Mexico, let the cartels kill themselves. I feel the same way about inner city street gangs.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    JB811 wrote:
    This administration is taking away rights and spending money like nobody's business. It is fools like this guy who gives them the reason.

    Also screw Mexico, let the cartels kill themselves. I feel the same way about inner city street gangs.
    What about the innocents that get caught in the crossfire?

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  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    I know, because crime would completely disappear if we outlawed guns. The criminals and crazy people who do these horrible things would respect this law, because they respect law in general.

    Guns don't kill people, people kill people. You will still have the same amount of violence regardless of guns or not. They don't possess people, but there has been plenty of threads on this issue already.

    Heres my crack pot idea (let me have it because there are a lot of wacky ideas on here that go unchecked). I think the media is highlighting these recent events to build recent public awareness that guns are bad, and give Americans something to be scared about so they support an anti-gun bill that will surely pass. I hope they do pass the bill, because it will show that nothing will change, crazys will still kill people, and the criminals will still do what they have always done
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  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    Murder of 5 children shocks Wash. trailer park
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090405/ap_ ... dren_slain

    what is it, the season change or something?

    I heard somewhere since the economy has gone to shit, there has been a rise in guns sales. So hold on to your britches people.
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  • Hinn
    Hinn Posts: 1,517
    Haven't heard of a school shooting in a fair while, and that one wasn't even in US, but Finland. We're about due for one in US.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    I know, because crime would completely disappear if we outlawed guns. The criminals and crazy people who do these horrible things would respect this law, because they respect law in general.

    Guns don't kill people, people kill people. You will still have the same amount of violence regardless of guns or not. They don't possess people, but there has been plenty of threads on this issue already.

    No way does a guy kill 3 cops before being apprehended if he doesn't have a gun. Sorry. If he comes at them with a knife, he goes down and in handcuffs before anyone gets killed. Period.

    That said, I oppose a gun ban.

    As to the OP, the reason this shit happens is because there are too many people competing for not enough resources and these people have weak genes that should have been weeded out by evolution but instead they thrive because of our society's structure. At the same time, our society is so dehumanizing that these weak ones that it keeps alive but marginalized end up snapping under the pressure of being ground into dust by the machine... then they lash out. Get used to it. It's only going to get worse.
  • megatron
    megatron Posts: 3,420
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    Murder of 5 children shocks Wash. trailer park
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090405/ap_ ... dren_slain

    what is it, the season change or something?

    I heard somewhere since the economy has gone to shit, there has been a rise in guns sales. So hold on to your britches people.
    guy i work with just bought an ak47..genuinely thinks that martial law is coming
    people are amazing
  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    RACE THAT CANT BE WON wrote:
    guy i work with just bought an ak47..genuinely thinks that martial law is coming
    people are amazing

    yeah, didn't you hear it's like the wild wild west out there all over again. :roll:
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    What has happened to the evolution of society? I thought we were past the bang-bang wild west shoot em up days. Why the need for so many guns? Yeah yeah…protection…I don’t want to hear it.

    soulsinging wrote:
    these people have weak genes that should have been weeded out by evolution but instead they thrive because of our society's structure. At the same time, our society is so dehumanizing that these weak ones that it keeps alive but marginalized end up snapping under the pressure of being ground into dust by the machine... then they lash out. Get used to it. It's only going to get worse.

    word.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    RACE THAT CANT BE WON wrote:
    guy i work with just bought an ak47..genuinely thinks that martial law is coming
    people are amazing

    Yeah... And I am not anti-gun. If an adult with no criminal record wants to buy an AK-47, then legally they should be able to (IMO). But it's the nuts who are buying them because they think martial law is coming or that some revolution is on the verge of happening are the ones that scare me. If you want to get one for target practice or collecting, that doesn't bother me, but if you get one believing that someday you will need to use it to protect your country or some shit like that, then you need help.

    This guy who shot the cops in Pittsburgh (besides being a special kind of coward), sounded like he was off the deep end:
    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09095/960750-53.stm
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  • soulsinging
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    blackredyellow wrote:
    RACE THAT CANT BE WON wrote:
    guy i work with just bought an ak47..genuinely thinks that martial law is coming
    people are amazing

    Yeah... And I am not anti-gun. If an adult with no criminal record wants to buy an AK-47, then legally they should be able to (IMO). But it's the nuts who are buying them because they think martial law is coming or that some revolution is on the verge of happening are the ones that scare me. If you want to get one for target practice or collecting, that doesn't bother me, but if you get one believing that someday you will need to use it to protect your country or some shit like that, then you need help.

    This guy who shot the cops in Pittsburgh (besides being a special kind of coward), sounded like he was off the deep end:
    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09095/960750-53.stm

    Holy shit! Anyone else note that we haven't seen Drifting around since this guy went off? I'm just sayin...
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    fugawzi wrote:
    Some guy here in Pittsburgh killed three cops and wounded 2 others this morning. Unfortunately this scumbag didn't take himself out. So why all these random shootings lately? I know it's something that happens everyday but there has been a spike in guys shooting multiple innocent people lately. Is it the economy or something or just crazy assholes who shouldn't have guns? The AP is saying the guy from this morning "recently had been upset about losing his job and that he feared President Barack Obama’s administration was poised to ban guns." Fucking gun nuts. If they're so in love with their gun why don't they just use it on themselves?

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  • Sludge Factory
    Sludge Factory Posts: 976
    soulsinging wrote:
    blackredyellow wrote:
    RACE THAT CANT BE WON wrote:
    guy i work with just bought an ak47..genuinely thinks that martial law is coming
    people are amazing

    Yeah... And I am not anti-gun. If an adult with no criminal record wants to buy an AK-47, then legally they should be able to (IMO). But it's the nuts who are buying them because they think martial law is coming or that some revolution is on the verge of happening are the ones that scare me. If you want to get one for target practice or collecting, that doesn't bother me, but if you get one believing that someday you will need to use it to protect your country or some shit like that, then you need help.

    This guy who shot the cops in Pittsburgh (besides being a special kind of coward), sounded like he was off the deep end:
    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09095/960750-53.stm

    Holy shit! Anyone else note that we haven't seen Drifting around since this guy went off? I'm just sayin...

    Haha, yeah I noticed that too, but I could've sworn things were still going good between him and his girlfriend. I read a thread a week or two ago about how she just bought him a book.
  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,826
    If Drifting is actually missing, it's because he's been labeled an "enemy combatant" by the government. He's probably getting the waterboard treatment right now! ;)
  • megatron
    megatron Posts: 3,420
    blackredyellow wrote:
    RACE THAT CANT BE WON wrote:
    guy i work with just bought an ak47..genuinely thinks that martial law is coming
    people are amazing

    Yeah... And I am not anti-gun. If an adult with no criminal record wants to buy an AK-47, then legally they should be able to (IMO). But it's the nuts who are buying them because they think martial law is coming or that some revolution is on the verge of happening are the ones that scare me. If you want to get one for target practice or collecting, that doesn't bother me, but if you get one believing that someday you will need to use it to protect your country or some shit like that, then you need help.

    This guy who shot the cops in Pittsburgh (besides being a special kind of coward), sounded like he was off the deep end:
    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09095/960750-53.stm
    yea i know..the guy is legit and has papers
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  • VINNY GOOMBA
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    RACE THAT CANT BE WON wrote:
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    Murder of 5 children shocks Wash. trailer park
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090405/ap_ ... dren_slain

    what is it, the season change or something?

    I heard somewhere since the economy has gone to shit, there has been a rise in guns sales. So hold on to your britches people.
    guy i work with just bought an ak47..genuinely thinks that martial law is coming
    people are amazing

    Do you think it is impossible for it to happen here in America, or just highly unlikely?
  • megatron
    megatron Posts: 3,420
    highly unlikely..
  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,826
    RACE THAT CANT BE WON wrote:
    highly unlikely..

    It is my belief that whether or not we experience martial law depends entirely on whether or not our own troops and law enforcement will agree to participate in policing us under martial law. The laws are such that it is "legal" for this type of governance to take place here, if necessary.

    It will probably take rioting for it to happen, and with people losing their jobs and having trouble feeding their families you have to wonder, could it be that far off?

    Also, if it were to happen, it may not apply to the entire country. I don't think it's impossible to see select volatile areas under martial law.
  • megatron
    megatron Posts: 3,420
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    RACE THAT CANT BE WON wrote:
    highly unlikely..

    It is my belief that whether or not we experience martial law depends entirely on whether or not our own troops and law enforcement will agree to participate in policing us under martial law. The laws are such that it is "legal" for this type of governance to take place here, if necessary.

    It will probably take rioting for it to happen, and with people losing their jobs and having trouble feeding their families you have to wonder, could it be that far off?

    Also, if it were to happen, it may not apply to the entire country. I don't think it's impossible to see select volatile areas under martial law.
    yea i could see it happening in detroit(i was raised there) or flint or some obscure town but im in orlando now and i just dont feel the tension down here enough for something big
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Alex Jones and Glenn Beck may have had a hand in the pittsburgh shooting.

    Their followiers are so goddamn paranoid about a one world government and secret societies some of them are snapping.
    According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Richard Poplawski was "convinced the nation was secretly controlled by a cabal that would eradicate freedom of speech, take away his guns and use the military to enslave the citizenry. ... He appeared to share a belief that the government was controlled from unseen forces, that troops were being shipped home from the Mideast to police the citizenry here, and that Jews secretly ran the country."

    thank you Fox, for spreading fear.

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