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edited April 2009 in The Porch
There's a two page article on PJ, Nirvana, Mudhoney, Soundgarden, and Green River in the Boston Herald today in memory of the 15th anniversary of Cobain's death on Sunday. It's not very deep and it counts Creed as part of the grunge movement, but its worth a read if you have 10 minutes to spare.
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    15 years since Kurt's suicide?
    I wonder whats gonna be going on on Sunday.
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  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,335
    Creed= G R E E D

    I can't believe they put Creed in this article?!?!

    Thanks for the information!
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  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,335
    I can't believe it is already 15 years since Cobain died! I remember it like it was yesterday. I was a junior in high school and I heard the news on the radio as my older brother was driving me to school. I was shocked and very sad.

    Kurt RIP! :cry:
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    Vedder_Girl77 wrote:
    I can't believe it is already 15 years since Cobain died! I remember it like it was yesterday. I was a junior in high school and I heard the news on the radio as my older brother was driving me to school. I was shocked and very sad.

    Kurt RIP! :cry:
    :( I was only a year old when he died.
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  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,335
    PJ_kidd121492 wrote:
    Vedder_Girl77 wrote:
    I can't believe it is already 15 years since Cobain died! I remember it like it was yesterday. I was a junior in high school and I heard the news on the radio as my older brother was driving me to school. I was shocked and very sad.

    Kurt RIP! :cry:
    :( I was only a year old when he died.
    R.I.P

    Now I feel REALLY OLD! LOL I was 16 1/2 in April 1994...in fact that I got my driver's license in April 1994 too! I could be your Mom! :lol:
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  • Thorns2010Thorns2010 Posts: 2,201
    I was in the 7th grade at the time. I remember hearing about it, but I don't recall exactly when or where I was at the time.

    I do know I didn't really start getting into Nirvana until a year latter though.
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    I'm not a cobain fan, never was....the best thing for the "legacy" of nirvana was his death. had he not died....different ballgame, probably would've been like a Candlebox type of band, just kinda fizzled away.
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  • skyeriverwinterskyeriverwinter Posts: 1,894
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    I'm not a cobain fan, never was....the best thing for the "legacy" of nirvana was his death. had he not died....different ballgame, probably would've been like a Candlebox type of band, just kinda fizzled away.


    Not a chance of them being on par with Candlebox. They may have fizzled out, but they would have always been known as the band that broke Alternative/Grunge music into the mainstream.
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    Vedder_Girl77 wrote:
    PJ_kidd121492 wrote:
    Vedder_Girl77 wrote:
    I can't believe it is already 15 years since Cobain died! I remember it like it was yesterday. I was a junior in high school and I heard the news on the radio as my older brother was driving me to school. I was shocked and very sad.

    Kurt RIP! :cry:
    :( I was only a year old when he died.
    R.I.P

    Now I feel REALLY OLD! LOL I was 16 1/2 in April 1994...in fact that I got my driver's license in April 1994 too! I could be your Mom! :lol:
    :D i just turned 16.
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  • yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    Vedder_Girl77 wrote:
    PJ_kidd121492 wrote:
    Vedder_Girl77 wrote:
    I can't believe it is already 15 years since Cobain died! I remember it like it was yesterday. I was a junior in high school and I heard the news on the radio as my older brother was driving me to school. I was shocked and very sad.

    Kurt RIP! :cry:
    :( I was only a year old when he died.
    R.I.P

    Now I feel REALLY OLD! LOL I was 16 1/2 in April 1994...in fact that I got my driver's license in April 1994 too! I could be your Mom! :lol:

    I was 19 when that happened, I remember it like it was yesterday... the news flash on MTV with Kurt Loder.
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  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    BinFrog wrote:
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    I'm not a cobain fan, never was....the best thing for the "legacy" of nirvana was his death. had he not died....different ballgame, probably would've been like a Candlebox type of band, just kinda fizzled away.


    Not a chance of them being on par with Candlebox. They may have fizzled out, but they would have always been known as the band that broke Alternative/Grunge music into the mainstream.


    Not at all! They're only known as "that band that broke grunge into mainstream" BECAUSE he died. It was never "Nirvana paved the way" back when it all happened....it was after he died that the media started blowing the whole situation out of proportion and gave all those "honors" to nirvana.

    Show me some articles from hit parader or circus to prove me otherwise.

    Also I wish I could find a count of how many times smells like teens spirit was played vs jeremy on mtv before kurt died.
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    yoke wrote:
    I was 19 when that happened, I remember it like it was yesterday... the news flash on MTV with Kurt Loder.

    I was 17 and remember it vividly.
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  • TangerineTangerine Posts: 880
    BinFrog wrote:
    yoke wrote:
    I was 19 when that happened, I remember it like it was yesterday... the news flash on MTV with Kurt Loder.

    I was 17 and remember it vividly.

    Me too, it was the year I graduated High School. It's one of the few things I remember vividly about the early 90's. Too bad it had to be a sucky thing :(
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  • Corduroy FootstepsCorduroy Footsteps Posts: 31
    Guitarhero27:

    You give off the impression of being very young and uninformed. If you truly lived and were aware of what was going on in music in the early 90's, you would not be making these comments about Nirvana, minimizing their contributions. That said, I do believe Cobain's early death has exaggerated the historical significance of their legacy to some extent, but it would still not be an understatement to say Nirvana changed everything at that point in time.

    There was dominant music before January, 1992 and a different dominant music after January, 1992. Why? Irrefutably, because of Smells Like Teen Spirit and Nevermind. As much of a PJ and Vedder fan as I am, I have to objectively say it was Cobain and co. that paved the way. Why do you think it took a few months into 1992 until Ten blew up? Because, PJ started garnering big interest only after Nevermind blew up first. Further evidence is the fact that Ten was released several months before Nevermind, but it took Nevermind getting big before Ten started selling. That is why Cobain was pretty much accurate when he churlishly characterized PJ's ascent as riding on the coattails of Nirvana's success.

    I have always been a big Pearl Jam fan, but I am also a big fan of the truth, and not revisionist history.
  • EddiesMuseEddiesMuse Posts: 389
    Im more sad about missing Layne, personally...
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    EddiesMuse wrote:
    Im more sad about missing Layne, personally...

    same here. it's sad what happened with both of them (and all before them), but Nirvana just never grabbed me the way PJ, AIC or Soundgarden did. i love their first record, "Bleach", but after that...not so much. my 2nd favorite record of theirs is "Incesticide". i hope they're both at peace. but damn, i miss layne's voice.
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  • Lennon_CobainLennon_Cobain Posts: 704
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    I'm not a cobain fan, never was....the best thing for the "legacy" of nirvana was his death. had he not died....different ballgame, probably would've been like a Candlebox type of band, just kinda fizzled away.
    I completely disagree. I believe that Nirvana would have continued to be a fantastic and chart-topping band. Dave Grohl would have become a true songwriter contributor to compliment Kurt Cobain. Dave's success with the Foo Fighters, I think, supports my position.

    Also, I think Pearl Jam and Nirvana would have had some healthy competition amongst the bands which would translate into some epic albums. Even The Beatles stepped up to "challenges" and delivered.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    BinFrog wrote:
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    I'm not a cobain fan, never was....the best thing for the "legacy" of nirvana was his death. had he not died....different ballgame, probably would've been like a Candlebox type of band, just kinda fizzled away.


    Not a chance of them being on par with Candlebox. They may have fizzled out, but they would have always been known as the band that broke Alternative/Grunge music into the mainstream.



    Interesting side note:

    Pearl Jam's drummer on Ten, Dave Krusen, also was the drummer for Candlebox in 1997.
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  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    I was 22 when Kurt died and had seen him just 4 months before his demise...comparing PJ to Nirvana is like comparing the Stones 'Let's Spend the Night Together' with the Beatles 'Happiness is a Warm Gun'...
    (you just can't)

    And for all the youngsters out there, listen to the aforementioned songs before you post a rebuttal...

    Cobain's music was more personal and touching for the simple fact that it came from a singular source...
    Kurt Cobain...there was not much collaborating going on at any time during the existence of Nirvana...
    Kurts' final handwritten letter to Krist (which is featured in the latest Charles Cross book) illustrates this point perfectly...

    Whereas Pearl Jams' songs are excellent, and, in truth, ultimately have far more 'staying power' to me personally, they are a collaboration between a true 'band' of exceptionally talented musicians...Pearl Jam is by far my favorite band and is much more deserving of the whole 'voice of a generation' crown that was obviously far too heavy for Kurt Cobain...

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