Ed & smoking - small rant

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  • EddiesMuse
    EddiesMuse Posts: 389
    ET45177 wrote:
    Is it me or has anyone else noticed how many times in print interviews with the band (specifically Ed) in recent years, there will invariably be some sentence in the article along the line of "...Vedder lights up the first of many cigarettes as we continue our conversation..." or "...he settles back into the chair, lights another cigarette and continues..." etc.

    It's no secret that Ed is a smoker and he is free to do as he pleases with his life but IMHO I feel Ed's voice has deteriorated in recent years. Simply put, while he still has the same tone and timbre in his voice, it is no longer as strong as what is used to be. Just listen to any recent live recordings and compare it to his performance of the same songs back around the early 90s. Another example could be the ITW soundtrack, like on "Setting Forth" where he seems to be really struggling to hit those high notes in the chorus.

    I'm no voice coach or doctor and I do realise voices change as one ages, so I don't know how much this has to do with aging but I am almost certain that his smoking is not doing his voice any great favors all the same. Like I said, Ed can do what he pleases with his life but I really hope that Ed will try and take better care of his voice and his health in general by giving the cancer sticks away once and for all. ;)

    OMG 20 yrs later and this is still a thread??? He wants to be like Obama....
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  • hopethatuchoke
    hopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    I know it's been said many times in this thread but I will say it again. Mind your own damn business. What a stupid thread.
  • yellowporch
    yellowporch Posts: 510
    DewieCox wrote:
    95% of Ed's voice deterioration is due to age.

    "If I wasn't suckin on a cough drop, I was puffin on a cigarette." John Lennon

    Singing voices are a fickle thing. Robert Plant came down with some kinda throat infection in 1973 and his voice was changed forever.

    Maybe the cigarettes Ed has smoked have caused him less stress and saved a fatal heart attack.

    THIS JUST IN: Smoking cigarettes can prevent fatal heart attacks. We take our report to a midget in a bikini.

    Thanks Tom, our surgeon general Dewie Cox informed me yesterday that cigarettes do in fact prevent fatal heart attacks. However, the one's that don't kill you will not save you by smoking a cigarette. ;)
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    smoke em if ya got em.............
    Like I always say sometimes...
  • dustinpardue
    dustinpardue Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,829
    smoking is awesome. all of us cool kids are doing it.
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  • PJFAN_seattle
    PJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    just stick to marijuana it feels better and doesnt give u cancer so u can start smoking it when ur a kid like me and live long yay.
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  • F5
    F5 Posts: 794
    ET45177 wrote:
    Is it me or has anyone else noticed how many times in print interviews with the band (specifically Ed) in recent years, there will invariably be some sentence in the article along the line of "...Vedder lights up the first of many cigarettes as we continue our conversation..." or "...he settles back into the chair, lights another cigarette and continues..." etc.

    It's no secret that Ed is a smoker and he is free to do as he pleases with his life but IMHO I feel Ed's voice has deteriorated in recent years. Simply put, while he still has the same tone and timbre in his voice, it is no longer as strong as what is used to be. Just listen to any recent live recordings and compare it to his performance of the same songs back around the early 90s. Another example could be the ITW soundtrack, like on "Setting Forth" where he seems to be really struggling to hit those high notes in the chorus.

    I'm no voice coach or doctor and I do realise voices change as one ages, so I don't know how much this has to do with aging but I am almost certain that his smoking is not doing his voice any great favors all the same. Like I said, Ed can do what he pleases with his life but I really hope that Ed will try and take better care of his voice and his health in general by giving the cancer sticks away once and for all. ;)
    I couldn't agree more! Ed we need your voice man! Drop the cancer sticks.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    It's not just the smoking, it's the touring that takes its toll.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    justam wrote:
    P.S. People can cop-out and say "Oh, he can do what he wants, blah, blah, blah..." but really, everyday he continues smokes he's cutting his life shorter!! :?

    “I have something to tell you non-smokers that I know for a fact that you don't know, and I feel it's my duty to pass on information at all times. Ready?. . . . Non-smokers die every day . . . Enjoy your evening. See, I know that you entertain this eternal life fantasy because you've chosen not to smoke, but let me be the 1st to POP that bubble and bring you hurling back to reality . . . You're dead too.” -Bill Hicks

    What's so fucking great about living to be 90 to sit in a nursing home to piss yourself, forget the existence of everyone you ever loved as your brain rots with Alzheimer's, and spend 1.5 hours moving at a pace a snail would scoff at to get downstairs and get your fucking mail? No fucking thanks. This whole wanting to live forever shit is not for me. Let me go out quickly and in my prime and dosed with mountains of painkillers and weed for my cancer. Thank you.

    This thread inspired me to buy a pack of smokes today. Light up motherfuckers!


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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    justam wrote:
    Yeah. It's harder to be so blaze (imagine an accent on the E) about smoking when you've lost people you love because they smoked for 50 years and died at SEVENTY when they could have lived longer. It's painful to lose people you love because of cigarettes. Sorry for stating the obvious!!

    70? Isn't average life expectancy like 72? It cost em 2 years?

    One of my best friends' mother (and my own surrogate mom in hs) died in her early 50s from cancer. She barely hung on to see him graduate. She did not smoke. It sucked, yes. But not smoking is no guarantee you won't lose a loved one and smoking does not mean you will. You act like 70 is the new 20. People DIE. No one lives forever. When did everyone become so obsessed with living forever? What's an "acceptable" age to die now? Is it based on your selfish demands for their company, or should it be more about when the person is ready to go and whether or not they enjoyed their life? Maybe the smoking helped them cope with life being a pile of shit and helped make them better company when they were around. Maybe if they hadn't smoked they'd have been bitter and angry all the time and when they hit 95 you'd be sitting there wishing they'd die so they'd stop bumming you out.

    They were my favorite relatives though. They were not at all cranky old people. We were all heart-broken when they left...they died two weeks apart.

    I think they would have enjoyed ten more years of life more than dying painfully of cancer and emphysema. :|
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    I just talked to Ed... and said, "You should quit smoking"... and he said, "God... why didn't I think of that?"
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  • Like I told a lady who didn't even know me once while I was walking past her and was lighting a cig as I passed by for 0.1 seconds, she said, You need to stop smoking and I said, you need to mind your own business but that seems to be and issue for you so I smoke because of people like you. The more of you I kill the better. One less fucking a-hole minding my business for me. That's if they can ever prove second hand smoke actually causes cancer that is. I loved the paunchy shocked silence on her face. :D
  • Ok
    Ok Posts: 2,146
    Uh Roger Waters completely destroyed his voice with cigs and reefer . . . this is not a new phenomenon.

    agree. ed is in good company on this one. hope he quits though.
  • Back_Pedal
    Back_Pedal Posts: 1,171
    Quitting smoking did wonders for Cornell, so maybe Ed should do the same. He really is starting to sound like shit now, and besides that he'll be around longer for his wife and kids by quitting, which is more important than his singing voice could ever be.
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  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
    ibtl :corn:
  • IgotshitID
    IgotshitID St.john's Newfoundland Posts: 895
    Back_Pedal wrote:
    Quitting smoking did wonders for Cornell, so maybe Ed should do the same. He really is starting to sound like shit now, and besides that he'll be around longer for his wife and kids by quitting, which is more important than his singing voice could ever be.

    Ya cornell sounds 10 times better these days then he did in Audioslave
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  • Chris Cornell is proof positive that you can change your voice around by quitting. His voice went to shit during his solo days, and now his voice sounds almost as good as it ever has, still hitting the high notes, now that he's quit.
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  • Jerome230 wrote:
    Chris Cornell is proof positive that you can change your voice around by quitting. His voice went to shit during his solo days, and now his voice sounds almost as good as it ever has, still hitting the high notes, now that he's quit.

    Almost as good? No way. He sounds good still but he has a lot of help from reverb. He cuts off short often and lets the reverb do the rest. Not bashing just want to clear that up. He seems to do better with the extreme highs than he does with the mid highs now, if you know what I mean.
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  • While smoking certainly can't help one's voice, I would say years of singing songs like Deep, Blood, STBC, Not for You, and generally maxing out the voice box, there's not much you can do to keep the voice the same.

    One thing smoking definitely doesn't help is lung capacity and sustaining notes and that is something I think he should take into account.
  • Why the fuck was the thread resurrected from 4 years ago?!!?! :nono:
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