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But seriously, I fear they might skip the UK 'cos our exchange rate sucks right now :(
they played here in 2000 and it was $1.5092 to the pound.
they are much richer now and the rate is $1.4469 to the pound
i think being multi-millionaires means they wont sweat it over a paltry 5p in the pound
dont think that the exchange rate would be a valid reason for a band to skip a tour anyway... U2, Oasis, Metallica, anyone really... they are all playing UK shows in the coming year...
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
But seriously, I fear they might skip the UK 'cos our exchange rate sucks right now :(
they played here in 2000 and it was $1.5092 to the pound.
they are much richer now and the rate is $1.4469 to the pound
i think being multi-millionaires means they wont sweat it over a paltry 5p in the pound
dont think that the exchange rate would be a valid reason for a band to skip a tour anyway... U2, Oasis, Metallica, anyone really... they are all playing UK shows in the coming year...
I hope so, it's just that Eurozone is a much more attractive proposition money-wise, and that's more their management that decides where their tour than the guys I think theses days.
But the UK is hard to avoid so I think they'll play something, but I won't hold my breath for a full UK tour...though you never know, the economy might have miraculously recovered by next year :ugeek:
...Oasis...anyone really... they are all playing UK shows in the coming year...
Wow, theyre taking the hit on the exhange rate from Manchester to London? Fair fucks to them :shock:
yeah my point was more that the current financial crisis doesn't put any of the big bands of from doing huge shows here.. rather than showing that Oasis have to use an imaginary exchange rate... which is why i thought the idea of a band not doing a show because of poor exchange rates to be a moot point... if the gig costs and extra £50k to stage then you can bet the extra cost will be shouldered by us mere fanatics... in 2006 the london tickets were more expensive than any other date of that tour if memory serves... if its because its more expensive to play here then that will be reflected in the ticket price.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
...Oasis...anyone really... they are all playing UK shows in the coming year...
Wow, theyre taking the hit on the exhange rate from Manchester to London? Fair fucks to them :shock:
yeah my point was more that the current financial crisis doesn't put any of the big bands of from doing huge shows here.. rather than showing that Oasis have to use an imaginary exchange rate... which is why i thought the idea of a band not doing a show because of poor exchange rates to be a moot point... if the gig costs and extra £50k to stage then you can bet the extra cost will be shouldered by us mere fanatics... in 2006 the london tickets were more expensive than any other date of that tour if memory serves... if its because its more expensive to play here then that will be reflected in the ticket price.
Financial crisis wasn't the object, only the currency rate.
The point of exchange rate being advantageous/disadvantageous, is tickets in 1 currency and crew/equipment/band in another (it's a moot point if the band is from the UK since there's no exchange rate)... so when the rate increase, they still pay the same for their crew/equipment but make more from the gigs... gig prices are not set in the band's currency, they're set according to the norm for similar gigs in the country.
The Wembley 07 (there's was no London gig in 06 except the Astoria) was maybe the most expensive PJ played here (but then they hadn't for 7 years), but it was in line with similar sized bands playing similar venues. (though yes, other bands played the same venue for less money, KOL for example did 6 months after)
Wow, theyre taking the hit on the exhange rate from Manchester to London? Fair fucks to them :shock:
yeah my point was more that the current financial crisis doesn't put any of the big bands of from doing huge shows here.. rather than showing that Oasis have to use an imaginary exchange rate... which is why i thought the idea of a band not doing a show because of poor exchange rates to be a moot point... if the gig costs and extra £50k to stage then you can bet the extra cost will be shouldered by us mere fanatics... in 2006 the london tickets were more expensive than any other date of that tour if memory serves... if its because its more expensive to play here then that will be reflected in the ticket price.
Financial crisis wasn't the object, only the currency rate.
The point of exchange rate being advantageous/disadvantageous, is tickets in 1 currency and crew/equipment/band in another (it's a moot point if the band is from the UK since there's no exchange rate)... so when the rate increase, they still pay the same for their crew/equipment but make more from the gigs... gig prices are not set in the band's currency, they're set according to the norm for similar gigs in the country.
The Wembley 07 (there's was no London gig in 06 except the Astoria) was maybe the most expensive PJ played here (but then they hadn't for 7 years), but it was in line with similar sized bands playing similar venues. (though yes, other bands played the same venue for less money, KOL for example did 6 months after)
listen, i'm not getting into stupid arguments about exhange rates and shit like that... . the mere notion that a band like PJ might not play a UK date incase they lose out on a few extra $$$$ because of the exchange doesnt enter the equation... the UK one of their biggest fanbases... if a money obsessed band like Metallica play the fucking UK then so will Pearl Jam...
I've been to lots of concerts and PJ at Wembley in 07... i'm not a fanboy so i dont remember the dates as if they were the births of my own kids... was the most expensive concert i've ever attended... U2 tickets to Hampden are only £30 odd... Coldplay are cheaper... REM were cheaper... etc etc
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
listen, i'm not getting into stupid arguments about exhange rates and shit like that... . the mere notion that a band like PJ might not play a UK date incase they lose out on a few extra $$$$ because of the exchange doesnt enter the equation... the UK one of their biggest fanbases... if a money obsessed band like Metallica play the fucking UK then so will Pearl Jam...
I've been to lots of concerts and PJ at Wembley in 07... i'm not a fanboy so i dont remember the dates as if they were the births of my own kids... was the most expensive concert i've ever attended... U2 tickets to Hampden are only £30 odd... Coldplay are cheaper... REM were cheaper... etc etc
i got your point completely, wasnt trying to stir shit, i was just being a smartarse (its the only way i know).
It is funny to hear you talk about the costs of London gigs though, (i've noticed it myself when in England). But, even the most expensive London gigs cost less than gigs in Ireland. Despite the benefit of the eurozone Ireland is simply an expensive market to do any business in, so tickets are usually the same or higher than London prices throughout Ireland for the same acts - especially for large concerts. And bands pretty much always play here on european tours, so your point stands totally. If the fanbase is there the band will play.
Smaller venues here haved dropped prices lately which is great, but Neil Young and Bob Dylan are playing here soon and the cheapest tickets are €80.
if the guys in PJ incur any costs on tour i'll be happy for them to pass it on to us!! (PJ tickets were pretty cheap here in 06 tho, now that i think about it.)
listen, i'm not getting into stupid arguments about exhange rates and shit like that... . the mere notion that a band like PJ might not play a UK date incase they lose out on a few extra $$$$ because of the exchange doesnt enter the equation... the UK one of their biggest fanbases... if a money obsessed band like Metallica play the fucking UK then so will Pearl Jam...
I've been to lots of concerts and PJ at Wembley in 07... i'm not a fanboy so i dont remember the dates as if they were the births of my own kids... was the most expensive concert i've ever attended... U2 tickets to Hampden are only £30 odd... Coldplay are cheaper... REM were cheaper... etc etc
i got your point completely, wasnt trying to stir shit, i was just being a smartarse (its the only way i know).
It is funny to hear you talk about the costs of London gigs though, (i've noticed it myself when in England). But, even the most expensive London gigs cost less than gigs in Ireland. Despite the benefit of the eurozone Ireland is simply an expensive market to do any business in, so tickets are usually the same or higher than London prices throughout Ireland for the same acts - especially for large concerts. And bands pretty much always play here on european tours, so your point stands totally. If the fanbase is there the band will play.
Smaller venues here haved dropped prices lately which is great, but Neil Young and Bob Dylan are playing here soon and the cheapest tickets are €80.
if the guys in PJ incur any costs on tour i'll be happy for them to pass it on to us!! (PJ tickets were pretty cheap here in 06 tho, now that i think about it.)
shit stirrer
and if Neil Young and Dylan are playing in Dublin and tickets are that hugely priced then it confirms what i was thinking... that it clearly has nothing to do with the exchange rate of currencies outside the US... the band/artist will always pass on the 'bill' to the people... if PJ want to play in the UK then they will...
can anyone visualise the Tour Manager walking up to the band and saying
TM: guys, here is the schedule for the next 2 months in Europe.. you'll be glad to hear there are no UK dates.
EV: uhm, why is there, eehhhh, no UK dates... I wont get to see Pete Townsend... uhm, why is this?
TM: well as the dollar v's pound exchange rate is up 1.67% from the June period of 2000 when we last toured, we contacted Price Waterhouse Cooper and asked them to formulate an Excel quadratic cosine equation to work out the pre-tax profits and then to minus the post tax profits from the overall ticket sales and then subdivide that via the marketing retail revenue and they told us that playing the UK would cost us $1.95 extra than last time.
EV: uhm, you're fired.
TM: yeah i thought as much.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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Brixton is my fav london venue. Sloped floor is genius, really is.
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Great venue, as wash_ said the sloped floor is great
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Never been, but I'm liking the idea of a sloped floor!
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Queens of the stone age were crap when i saw them there.
But seriously, I fear they might skip the UK 'cos our exchange rate sucks right now :(
they played here in 2000 and it was $1.5092 to the pound.
they are much richer now and the rate is $1.4469 to the pound
i think being multi-millionaires means they wont sweat it over a paltry 5p in the pound
dont think that the exchange rate would be a valid reason for a band to skip a tour anyway... U2, Oasis, Metallica, anyone really... they are all playing UK shows in the coming year...
Wow, theyre taking the hit on the exhange rate from Manchester to London? Fair fucks to them :shock:
But the UK is hard to avoid so I think they'll play something, but I won't hold my breath for a full UK tour...though you never know, the economy might have miraculously recovered by next year :ugeek:
yeah my point was more that the current financial crisis doesn't put any of the big bands of from doing huge shows here.. rather than showing that Oasis have to use an imaginary exchange rate... which is why i thought the idea of a band not doing a show because of poor exchange rates to be a moot point... if the gig costs and extra £50k to stage then you can bet the extra cost will be shouldered by us mere fanatics... in 2006 the london tickets were more expensive than any other date of that tour if memory serves... if its because its more expensive to play here then that will be reflected in the ticket price.
The point of exchange rate being advantageous/disadvantageous, is tickets in 1 currency and crew/equipment/band in another (it's a moot point if the band is from the UK since there's no exchange rate)... so when the rate increase, they still pay the same for their crew/equipment but make more from the gigs... gig prices are not set in the band's currency, they're set according to the norm for similar gigs in the country.
The Wembley 07 (there's was no London gig in 06 except the Astoria) was maybe the most expensive PJ played here (but then they hadn't for 7 years), but it was in line with similar sized bands playing similar venues. (though yes, other bands played the same venue for less money, KOL for example did 6 months after)
Whoa! I would try to make it to this one if it happens! Brixton is one of my favorite shows!
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listen, i'm not getting into stupid arguments about exhange rates and shit like that... . the mere notion that a band like PJ might not play a UK date incase they lose out on a few extra $$$$ because of the exchange doesnt enter the equation... the UK one of their biggest fanbases... if a money obsessed band like Metallica play the fucking UK then so will Pearl Jam...
I've been to lots of concerts and PJ at Wembley in 07... i'm not a fanboy so i dont remember the dates as if they were the births of my own kids... was the most expensive concert i've ever attended... U2 tickets to Hampden are only £30 odd... Coldplay are cheaper... REM were cheaper... etc etc
i got your point completely, wasnt trying to stir shit, i was just being a smartarse (its the only way i know).
It is funny to hear you talk about the costs of London gigs though, (i've noticed it myself when in England). But, even the most expensive London gigs cost less than gigs in Ireland. Despite the benefit of the eurozone Ireland is simply an expensive market to do any business in, so tickets are usually the same or higher than London prices throughout Ireland for the same acts - especially for large concerts. And bands pretty much always play here on european tours, so your point stands totally. If the fanbase is there the band will play.
Smaller venues here haved dropped prices lately which is great, but Neil Young and Bob Dylan are playing here soon and the cheapest tickets are €80.
if the guys in PJ incur any costs on tour i'll be happy for them to pass it on to us!! (PJ tickets were pretty cheap here in 06 tho, now that i think about it.)
shit stirrer
and if Neil Young and Dylan are playing in Dublin and tickets are that hugely priced then it confirms what i was thinking... that it clearly has nothing to do with the exchange rate of currencies outside the US... the band/artist will always pass on the 'bill' to the people... if PJ want to play in the UK then they will...
can anyone visualise the Tour Manager walking up to the band and saying
TM: guys, here is the schedule for the next 2 months in Europe.. you'll be glad to hear there are no UK dates.
EV: uhm, why is there, eehhhh, no UK dates... I wont get to see Pete Townsend... uhm, why is this?
TM: well as the dollar v's pound exchange rate is up 1.67% from the June period of 2000 when we last toured, we contacted Price Waterhouse Cooper and asked them to formulate an Excel quadratic cosine equation to work out the pre-tax profits and then to minus the post tax profits from the overall ticket sales and then subdivide that via the marketing retail revenue and they told us that playing the UK would cost us $1.95 extra than last time.
EV: uhm, you're fired.
TM: yeah i thought as much.
I was on the balcony for Neil Young and at the back for Gogol bordello so that's probably why I didn't notice!!!!
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