Obama wants troops to pay for health care
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~Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama admin. is considering a controversial plan to make veteran's pay for treatment of service related injuries,but was told by lawmakers that it would be dead on arrival.
Washington Sen.Patty Murry used that blunt terminology,telling Shinseki that the idea would not be acceptable and would be rejected if formally proposed.She made the remarks during a senate committee on Veteran's Affairs hearing about the 2010 budget.
No official proposal to create such a program has been announced publicly,but the veterans groups wrote a pre emptive letter last week to Obama opposing the idea after hearing the plan was under consideration. the groups also noticed an increase in third party collections" estimated in the 2010 budget proposal--something they said could only be achieved if the VA started billing for service related injuries. Asked about the proposal, Shinseki said it was under "consideration" "A final decision has not been made yet " he said
"I believe that the veteran's with service connected injuries have already paid by putting their lives on the line "Murry said in her remarks"I don't think we should nickle and dime them for their care"
Eleven of the most prominent veteran's organizations have been lobbying congress to oppose the idea.In the letter sent last week to Obama, the Veterans groups warned that the idea is wholly unacceptable and a total abrogation of our govt. moral and legal responsibility to the men and women who have sacrificed so much
Let me get this straight if you cant pay your mortgage our govt. will bail you out using our tax dollars not to mention health care for illegal aliens and every other bum that's to lazy to get a fckn job,but if you are in the military and you get your leg blown off then you have to pay for it your self ? WTF is wrong with this president ? :shock: :x :x
Is this what liberals mean by supporting the troops ? :x :?
Washington Sen.Patty Murry used that blunt terminology,telling Shinseki that the idea would not be acceptable and would be rejected if formally proposed.She made the remarks during a senate committee on Veteran's Affairs hearing about the 2010 budget.
No official proposal to create such a program has been announced publicly,but the veterans groups wrote a pre emptive letter last week to Obama opposing the idea after hearing the plan was under consideration. the groups also noticed an increase in third party collections" estimated in the 2010 budget proposal--something they said could only be achieved if the VA started billing for service related injuries. Asked about the proposal, Shinseki said it was under "consideration" "A final decision has not been made yet " he said
"I believe that the veteran's with service connected injuries have already paid by putting their lives on the line "Murry said in her remarks"I don't think we should nickle and dime them for their care"
Eleven of the most prominent veteran's organizations have been lobbying congress to oppose the idea.In the letter sent last week to Obama, the Veterans groups warned that the idea is wholly unacceptable and a total abrogation of our govt. moral and legal responsibility to the men and women who have sacrificed so much
Let me get this straight if you cant pay your mortgage our govt. will bail you out using our tax dollars not to mention health care for illegal aliens and every other bum that's to lazy to get a fckn job,but if you are in the military and you get your leg blown off then you have to pay for it your self ? WTF is wrong with this president ? :shock: :x :x
Is this what liberals mean by supporting the troops ? :x :?
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as an Obama supporter, I don't support this plan...
I hope that's ok...or do need to lump all the ills of the world to this issue...?
What is fact is that, vets already pay out of the pocket co-pays for treatment. Why, because out-patient services at
-VA's are understaffed and the wait for treatment is long and far in between.
-VA's are not conveniently located to soldiers in need, especially, mental health facilities, so they have to use private entities
-Because non-VA medical institutions, insurance companies, hospitals and doctors want paid.
If your really gun ho about health care for vets. Then pony-up, soldiers fight for the entire country at the direction of the President. Instead of going after the President and the little taxpayer? Why aren't people going after a separate healthcare policy that requires health insurance companies, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and doctors to provide free medical care and treatment, at any and all facilities for vets. Problem solved. Hell make it a law.
Go ahead, talk to your Reps. and Senators on a free healthcare law for vets and see where the hell it takes you.
are you talking about your original post...? if not, you should be...
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
obviously you cant read because you can't even spell
:roll:
But there are some ups and downs with any change like this.
no Im talking about the mush in your head
make up your minds. or do you just whine about whatever obama does and pretend to support the opposite?
So... the Government Health care is a good thing in your eyes, right? Isn't that 'socialized healthcare'? What are you, some kind of Commie Pinko?
Hail, Hail!!!
They always talked about how great the care was, and how it should be viewed as part of your income. I would get a letter every year summarizing my pay and benefits into a total dollar amount. On my taxes I made less then 35K a year, but according to the DOD, I made over 50K if you added all the benefits in a dollar sum to my base pay. But in all honesty, it was likely more around 40K to be honest, 50K was pushing it.
There are some good and bad points to how they work it, but its not something President Obama masterminded recently, this was in work for quite some time. The military has been modeling itself after corporate America more and more as the years go by.
These are two different things. Universal health care is granted to everyone regardless if you have a job and pay taxed or not, military health care is granted to people who have a job and pay taxes while in the military.
The only similarity is that they both treat you like cattle. I'm all for it going civilian, just not out of pocket. And if so, they need a big raise in the base pay beyond the annual 2% to 3% to match inflation.
what do you think smart ass?
From what you are saying... I would say you are a Commie Pinko that wants Socialized Health Care provided by the Government.
Or... you are against the decision based merely upon your partisan political views, thus, making you a hypocrite.
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Which are you... Commie Pinko or Hypocrite?
Hail, Hail!!!
We can debate about the issues with out getting out of control.
Its just a message board......
Yep.. you're right.... I shall re-phrase my question...
pffctlefts... Are you a Socialist/Communist who feels the Government should become a health care provider or are you someone who does not believe this, but are argueing for it because the person in charge of making the decision does not adhere to your political views?
Hail, Hail!!!
Just b/c I want free health care for our troops dosent make me a socialist or a communist :roll:
No I dont feel the govt. should become a health care provider for the average citizen,but as far as someone who is injured or maimed on the battlefield they should get the best care possible and it shouldn't cost them a damn dime,and IMO if you feel they should have to pay out of their pocket then you sir are worse then Hitler.