“No Post Millennium Tunes”
CrookedTom
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That was the view of Classic Rock in the UK on Pearl Jam while reviewing the Ten reissue
I strongly disagreed at first, but then I am a rapid fan.
Stepping back and looking at it from a neutral stance though, the man has a point. I don’t think Binaural through Pearl Jam come close to matching their 90’s work.
The next album is crucial for me – If it fails, I think PJ will become merely a touring band, throwing out albums every 4 or 5 years just as an excuse to tour.
If it succeeds in some kind of ‘comeback’ way, (think Dylan’s Time Out of Mind, U2’s Achtung Baby) things could be very interesting.
I strongly disagreed at first, but then I am a rapid fan.
Stepping back and looking at it from a neutral stance though, the man has a point. I don’t think Binaural through Pearl Jam come close to matching their 90’s work.
The next album is crucial for me – If it fails, I think PJ will become merely a touring band, throwing out albums every 4 or 5 years just as an excuse to tour.
If it succeeds in some kind of ‘comeback’ way, (think Dylan’s Time Out of Mind, U2’s Achtung Baby) things could be very interesting.
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I couldn't disagree more.
really? you like the albums after Yield better than the ones before it?
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It's split. Binaural is my favorite Pearl Jam album and could always go for hearing any of those songs live. Riot Act and Pearl Jam have some great live songs. Eliminating songs like Save You, I Am Mine, Thumbing My Way, All or None, Life Wasted, Marker, Parachutes, and Come Back would be a huge mistake. Those are some of the bands best. If we eliminate everything after Yield we're turning them into a Greatest Hits band...like the Rolling Stones.
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Obviously the early albums are held in the highest regard because that's what brought most of us to this band in the first place. We were young, and that was our music.
To say that they haven't released anything relevant post 1999 is a little bit harsh.
"Binaural" for example, has aged incredibly well. I find myself loving that album more and more and play it just as often as "Yeild" "No Code" "Vitalogy" ect ect.
"Riot Act" is really the only album I'm not really fond of. But that being said...there are some really great songs on that album that are amoung my favorite songs they've ever written ( 1/2 Full, All or None)
Personally, I think "Avacodo" was a great album.
Mind you, Like "Riot Act" it dates itself with it's politics. But to say that it wasn't a relevant album is way off base.
How quickly we forget that "World Wide Suicide" topped all of the rock charts upon it's release, and that the album itself generated some of the most favorable reviews this band has ever recieved.
This next album will be really interesting as far as direction goes. Based on some of the early comments by Jeff, Mike, and Stone, it appears that the new music is shapeing up to be pretty interesting.
I think the band is comfortable with their place in rock'n'roll and isn't ashamed or bashful anymore to write a terrific rock song or make a great and popular album. If anything, I think Avacado was a step in that direction.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see where the next album takes them. But one things for certain, I don't know of many bands that have managed to stay as relevant and vital while still managing to challenge themselves, their audience, and the music industry in general.
I think the premise that everything after Yield is not as good as what came before is accurate because Binaural and Riot Act have some major flaws.
However, Avocado made up for both of them. But yeah, if I never heard another Riot Act song (besides Save You, You Are) I'd be ok with that.
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don't misunderstand... i don't mean to make it sound like everything they did after Yield was crap or anything.. far f-ing from it. there are several songs from each album that i love... but i just hold the first 5 albums up to a different standard... but i love all things Pearl Jam!!! Eddie could belch into a mic, throw some reverb on it, and i'd buy that shit on vinyl.
The first Pearl Jam song I ever fell in love with was I Am Mine, so either we are both crazy, or its not weird.
i've been a rabid pearl jam fan since the original ten was released on cassette. i was one of those 15-18 year old kids that was able to see themselves in everyone of the songs. that being said, i have to agree with the UK. I like all of their albums except for avocado, but all post millennium albums just have a handful of really excellent songs on each album. none of which was a "radio" hit which is what I infer is what Classic Rock meant. But nothing since Vitalogy has really had a hit sans Last Kiss, but that was a one off. So I don't know what I'm talking about.
But the next album had better be Ten times better than avocado. Hell, even if it's as good as Yield I'll be fucking excited. Here's hoping as Jeff was right when he said that EdVed has caught a good wave since Into The Wild. I'll love 'em no matter what. I just want them to matter to everyone agian as much as they have always to me.
Not to be nit-picky, but I think you might've meant U2's How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb instead of Achtung Baby. At the the time Achtung Baby came out they were already established rock stars. Unless you are talking about the flopping of Rattle And Hum
If you want to talk about a U2 comeback album, that would be "All That You Can't Leave Behind" which followed "Zooropa" and "Pop" respectively.
"You need the patience of like a National Geographic photographer sitting underneath the bush in a tent, trying to get a picture of zebras fucking or something for the first time." -Eddie Vedder
At least with "Riot Act," "Save You" and "I Am Mine" especially got some airplay. With "Pearl Jam," "World Wide Suicide" got quite a bit of airplay, and "Life Wasted" to a lesser degree.
"You need the patience of like a National Geographic photographer sitting underneath the bush in a tent, trying to get a picture of zebras fucking or something for the first time." -Eddie Vedder
(I hope this didn't come across as an angry rant, because it's totally not intended that way ... )
So at the end of 1991 when Achtung completely rejuvenated the band's image when Nirvana and Pearl Jam were ascending was a stroke of brilliance and brought U2 to a whole new batch of music listeners. U2 had the teenagers of 1987 already, then they got the teenagers of 1991-2 too.
If it wasn't for the mega success of Achtung the failure of Zooropa could have killed the band.
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riot act is an amazing album.
it just is.
i personally think from no code on is when pearl jam got really good. don't get me wrong i like ten-vitalogy, they're just.... i dunno, not the greatest albums. they just arent, for me anyway.
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Some people say they haven't made a good tune since Vitalogy.
You know what opinions are like.
This is exactly how I feel too. Well, I could actually swap Yield with Riot Act.
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well, yeah you know what they say about Vitalogy too don't you?
VITALOGY IS A FUCKING MASTERPIECE!!!
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I completely agree. Of course it's all a matter of opinion. No two people's taste in music are exactly the same. For me, I thought that they matured a lot with No Code and it has escalated form there. Binaural has extremely sentimental ties for me and I've always thought of it as one of the best "mood music" albums I own. I do agree with a lot of people that Riot Act was one of their weaker albums, but hey, that's my opinion, as is the fact that "Avocado" kicks so much ass it's ridiculous.
I think a lot of people miss the old style that they founded themselves on, and rightly so, it was one of a kind, ground breaking, ass kicking, passionate music that people hadn't been used to. (In my opinion, especially after the wash that was the 80's) Now I'm only 27, so I was a bit young to be getting on the bandwagon when PJ had just got in their groove, but I listened to my brother's Ten album over and over again until it hurt, and I loved the hell out of that, VS, and Vitalogy. Do I miss the old style, hell yes! Do I think they've grown, as a band, into something far more classic and far more "all encompassing" (to steal from Eddie), yes!
I love their old style, but they'll never put that kind of sound out again. They've changed, times have changed, music has changed (and please don't think I'm some guy who rides the new music scene, I'm the guy whose tag here is an Elton John song from '71)
I'd never knock the early stuff. It's genius and awe inspiring, but I love their post-Vitalogy albums in a way that I don't think I could love any other modern band's music. I think that years of experience (Don't forget that they're one of the few real rock bands from that era who can last 18 years and counting) have left them with a sound that won't date itself and will prove that they can be counted up there with the legends like "The Who" and "Zep".
My naive two cents.