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HR 875: Lose your property for growing food?

Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
edited March 2009 in A Moving Train
I watched this documentary last night:
Controlling Our Food

I happened upon this story tonight....when read shortly after viewing the doc above, it's pretty ominous sounding legislation:

Lose Your Property For Growing Food?
Big Brother legislation could mean prosecution, fines up to $1 million

Posted: March 16, 2009
8:56 pm Eastern


By Chelsea Schilling
© 2009 WorldNetDaily


Some small farms and organic food growers could be placed under direct supervision of the federal government under new legislation making its way through Congress.

Food Safety Modernization Act


House Resolution 875, or the Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009, was introduced by Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., in February. DeLauro's husband, Stanley Greenburg, works for Monsanto the world's leading producer of herbicides and genetically engineered seed.

DeLauro's act has 39 co-sponsors and was referred to the House Agriculture Committee on Feb. 4. It calls for the creation of a Food Safety Administration to allow the government to regulate food production at all levels – and even mandates property seizure, fines of up to $1 million per offense and criminal prosecution for producers, manufacturers and distributors who fail to comply with regulations.

Michael Olson, host of the Food Chain radio show and author of "Metro Farm," told WND the government should focus on regulating food production in countries such as China and Mexico rather than burdening small and organic farmers in the U.S. with overreaching regulations.

"We need somebody to watch over us when we're eating food that comes from thousands and thousands of miles away. We need some help there," he said. "But when food comes from our neighbors or from farmers who we know, we don't need all of those rules. If your neighbor sells you something that is bad and you get sick, you are going to get your hands on that farmer, and that will be the end of it. It regulates itself."

The legislation would establish the Food Safety Administration within the Department of Health and Human Services "to protect the public health by preventing food-borne illness, ensuring the safety of food, improving research on contaminants leading to food-borne illness, and improving security of food from intentional contamination, and for other purposes."

Federal regulators will be tasked with ensuring that food producers, processors and distributors – both large and small – prevent and minimize food safety hazards such as food-borne illnesses and contaminants such as bacteria, chemicals, natural toxins or manufactured toxicants, viruses, parasites, prions, physical hazards or other human pathogens.

Under the legislation's broad wording, slaughterhouses, seafood processing plants, establishments that process, store, hold or transport all categories of food products prior to delivery for retail sale, farms, ranches, orchards, vineyards, aquaculture facilities and confined animal-feeding operations would be subject to strict government regulation.

Government inspectors would be required to visit and examine food production facilities, including small farms, to ensure compliance. They would review food safety records and conduct surveillance of animals, plants, products or the environment.

"What the government will do is bring in industry experts to tell them how to manage all this stuff," Olson said. "It's industry that's telling government how to set these things up. What it always boils down to is who can afford to have the most influence over the government. It would be those companies that have sufficient economies of scale to be able to afford the influence – which is, of course, industrial agriculture."

Farms and food producers would be forced to submit copies of all records to federal inspectors upon request to determine whether food is contaminated, to ensure they are in compliance with food safety laws and to maintain government tracking records. Refusal to register, permit inspector access or testing of food or equipment would be prohibited.

"What is going to happen is that local agriculture will end up suffering through some onerous protocols designed for international agriculture that they simply don't need," Olson said. "Thus, it will be a way for industrial agriculture to manage local agriculture."

Under the act, every food producer must have a written food safety plan describing likely hazards and preventative controls they have implemented and must abide by "minimum standards related to fertilizer use, nutrients, hygiene, packaging, temperature controls, animal encroachment, and water."

"That opens a whole can of worms," Olson said. "I think that's where people are starting to freak out about losing organic agriculture. Who is going to decide what the minimum standards are for fertilization or anything else? The government is going to bring in big industry and say we are setting up these protocols, so what do you think we should do? Who is it going to bring in to ask? The government will bring in people who have economies of scale who have that kind of influence."

DeLauro's act calls for the Food Safety Administration to create a "national traceability system" to retrieve history, use and location of each food product through all stages of production, processing and distribution.

Olson believes the regulations could create unjustifiable financial hardships for small farmers and run them out of business.

"That is often the purpose of rules and regulations: to get rid of your competition," he said. "Only people who are very, very large can afford to comply. They can hire one person to do paperwork. There's a specialization of labor there, and when you are very small, you can't afford to do all of these things."

Olson said despite good intentions behind the legislation, this act could devastate small U.S. farms.

"Every time we pass a rule or a law or a regulation to make the world a better place, it seems like what we do is subsidize production offshore," he said. "We tell farmers they can no longer drive diesel tractors because they make bad smoke. Well, essentially what we're doing is giving China a subsidy to grow our crops for us, or Mexico or anyone else."

Section 304 of the Food Safety Modernization Act establishes a group of "experts and stakeholders from Federal, State, and local food safety and health agencies, the food industry, consumer organizations, and academia" to make recommendations for improving food-borne illness surveillance.

According to the act, "Any person that commits an act that violates the food safety law … may be assessed a civil penalty by the Administrator of not more than $1,000,000 for each such act."

Each violation and each separate day the producer is in defiance of the law would be considered a separate offense and an additional penalty. The act suggests federal administrators consider the gravity of the violation, the degree of responsibility and the size and type of business when determining penalties.

Criminal sanctions may be imposed if contaminated food causes serious illness or death, and offenders may face fines and imprisonment of up to 10 years.

"It's just frightening what can happen with good intentions," Olson said. "It's probably the most radical notions on the face of this Earth, but local agriculture doesn't need government because it takes care of itself."

Food Safety and Tracking Improvement Act

Another "food safety" bill that has organic and small farmers worried is Senate Bill 425, or the Food Safety and Tracking Improvement Act, sponsored by Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio.

Brown's bill is backed by lobbyists for Monsanto, Archer Daniels Midland and Tyson. It was introduced in September and has been referred to the Senate Agriculture, Nutrition and Forestry Committee. Some say the legislation could also put small farmers out of business.

Like HR 875, the measure establishes a nationwide "traceability system" monitored by the Food and Drug Administration for all stages of manufacturing, processing, packaging and distribution of food. It would cost $40 million over three years.

"We must ensure that the federal government has the ability and authority to protect the public, given the global nature of the food supply," Brown said when he introduced the bill. He suggested the FDA and USDA have power to declare mandatory recalls.

The government would track food shipped in interstate commerce through a recordkeeping and audit system, a secure, online database or registered identification. Each farmer or producer would be required to maintain records regarding the purchase, sale and identification of their products.

A 13-member advisory committee of food safety and tracking technology experts, representatives of the food industry, consumer advocates and government officials would assist in implementing the traceability system.

The bill calls for the committee to establish a national database or registry operated by the Food and Drug Administration. It also proposes a electronic records database to identify sales of food and its ingredients "establishing that the food and its ingredients were grown, prepared, handled, manufactured, processed, distributed, shipped, warehoused, imported, and conveyed under conditions that ensure the safety of the food."

It states, "The records should include an electronic statement with the date of, and the names and addresses of all parties to, each prior sale, purchase, or trade, and any other information as appropriate."


If government inspectors find that a food item is not in compliance, they may force producers to cease distribution, recall the item or confiscate it.

"If the postal service can track a package from my office in Washington to my office in Cincinnati, we should be able to do the same for food products," Sen. Brown said in a Sept. 4, 2008, statement. "Families that are struggling with the high cost of groceries should not also have to worry about the safety of their food. This legislation gives the government the resources it needs to protect the public."

Recalls of contaminated food are usually voluntary; however, in his weekly radio address on March 15, President Obama announced he's forming a Food Safety Working Group to propose new laws and stop corruption of the nation's food.

The group will review, update and enforce food safety laws, which Obama said "have not been updated since they were written in the time of Teddy Roosevelt."

The president said outbreaks from contaminated foods, such as a recent salmonella outbreak among consumers of peanut products, have occurred more frequently in recent years due to outdated regulations, fewer inspectors, scaled back inspections and a lack of information sharing between government agencies.

"In the end, food safety is something I take seriously, not just as your president but as a parent," Obama said. "No parent should have to worry that their child is going to get sick from their lunch just as no family should have to worry that the medicines they buy will cause them harm."
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    Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    read HR 875 here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c ... 111l3tedZ::



    stole this quick analysis of the bill from another forum:


    Pay special attention to

    Section 3 which is the definitions portion of the bill-read in it's entirety.
    section 103, 206 and 207- read in it's entirety.
    Red flags I found and I am sure there are more...........

    Legally binds state agriculture depts to enforcing federal guidelines effectively taking away the states power to do anything other than being food police for the federal dept.
    Effectively criminalizes organic farming but doesn't actually use the word organic.
    Effects anyone growing food even if they are not selling it but consuming it.
    Effects anyone producing meat of any kind including wild game.
    Legislation is so broad based that every aspect of growing or producing food can be made illegal. There are no specifics which is bizarre considering how long the legislation is.
    Section 103 is almost entirely about the administrative aspect of the legislation. It will allow the appointing of officials from the factory farming corporations and lobbyists and classify them as experts and allow them to determine and interpret the legislation. Who do you think they are going to side with?
    Section 206 defines what will be considered a food production facility and what will be enforced up all food production facilities. The wording is so broad based that a backyard gardener could be fined and more.
    Section 207 requires that the state's agriculture dept act as the food police and enforce the federal requirements. This takes away the states power and is in violation of the 10th amendment.
    Didn't Stalin nationalize farming methods that enabled his administration to gain control over the food supply? Didn't Stalin use the food to control the people?
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    DPrival78DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,259
    don't you just love living in a free country?
    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
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    Does this look like something that will easily pass?
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    Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Does this look like something that will easily pass?
    Well, that would depend on a few things...
    What is the current atmosphere in the US regarding food 'protection'? Is there enough public outcry over tainted food to support this, if presented as something that will improve the situation?
    And...will anyone even read the gawdayum thing before voting on it?

    I'm not American...just found it interesting to see Monsanto backing bills that make things harder on small and organic farms, and working with government agencies to set new food standards that are detrimental to public health, and beneficial to their bottom line....not to mention they include provisions expanding the tracking of purchases by average people.
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    VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,802
    Does this look like something that will easily pass?
    39 Co-sponsors, and Obama pushing it on his radio address = sadly yes. This is bullshit. I overheard a farmer talking to someone in the pizza place today, and I told her about it. She flipped out, and heard it was on the horizon. She's going to call our congressman today.
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    puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    This bill is unnecessary for the creation of a Food Safety Administration, especially, under the Department of Health and Human Services. This country already has the Department of Agriculture, which is more than qualified to do this job if Monsanto and their lobbyists where kicked out of the halls of the Capitol Building.

    This Bill

    1) It takes all responsibility for food safety from the Monsanto and other Agribusiness industries. Lets use the peanut outbreak as an example. Under this Bill, the conditions of the plants in TX become the responsibility of the State inspectors to make sure that the company maintains them properly. (States are cutting back on police and firemen, do you think they have the resources to monitor every person who grows a food product - of course not.) . Thus, it becomes the failure of the TX inspectors, it also becomes the failure of the inspectors in GA, where the peanut were shipped, it further becomes the responsibility of the storage houses and, the retail companies who receive the final product. The filthy plant owners could not be sued. Think about this when your speaking about chicken hatcheries, slaughter houses, meat packing plants, the need the keep clean equipment, clean hauling vehicles, etc. All that goes out the window with this Bill because the burden is put on the State and federal governments and ultimately the taxpayer.

    2) This Bill does what Monsanto can't. It can't regulate the manufacturing and distribution of seeds. It can't sue farmers for so called acts of Nature, when the wind blow Monsanto's seeds onto the fields because farmers don't really know if the seeds actually affected their corps. Under this Bill, farmers would be required to test all the products before they can be sold, including those small farmers who sell at Farmer's Markets. Monsanto would be able to confiscate or destroy crops. Monsanto could also make the claim that the seeding is so integrated within the land, that the land should be turned over to them.

    3) Take a look at this Bill, if it was about the people or the safety of the product you would think there would be strict guidelines on detail labeling on products that reach the retail store - of course not - but Monsanto wants detailed information on 'inspection reports'.


    4) The biggest push for this Bill is what this Bill signals and that is - the future of marijuana, which not to far down the road, is going to be a legalized crop and Monsanto has the seed rights. Come on people did you really think Monsanto gives a damn about food safety. Between the farms and the foreclosures, and lost businesses (Circuit City) land is premium. The trade routes has been created via NAFTA and the land cleared, only thing in the way was the States and governement, so why not make them responsible for any problems.




    Remind Americans about bad, bad China and about their pets that got sick and hey you got a new Bill.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
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