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Good OnyaGood Onya Posts: 25
edited March 2009 in The Porch
Are there some songs pearl jam will not play any more because a certain president is out of office?

For example: Bushleaguer...this is a no brainer
World wide suicide...its a war protest song but also rips on the commander in chief.

Also if PJ tours in 2010, will they be able to sing Do the Evolution, what if doesnt go to fire in 2010?

Any thoughts?
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  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    WWS and DTE will NEVER stop being played.
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  • Good OnyaGood Onya Posts: 25
    Will Ed have to modify the lyrics then?

    2020 watch it go to fire?.........

    that the FORMER president took for granted, writing checks that others pay......
  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    Good Onya wrote:
    Will Ed have to modify the lyrics then?

    2020 watch it go to fire?.........

    that the FORMER president took for granted, writing checks that others pay......
    Well, considering Obama PROBABLY won't listen or be at the live shows.. no.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Good Onya wrote:
    Will Ed have to modify the lyrics then?

    2020 watch it go to fire?.........



    He won't want to make Diane Sawyer and Barbara Walters upset. ;)


    and wws may go "the former president took for granted, writing checks Obama pays" or something. I wouldn't mind if they bury wws deep deep in the ground and cover it with cement.
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  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Jeremy's Spoken wrote:
    Good Onya wrote:
    Will Ed have to modify the lyrics then?

    2020 watch it go to fire?.........

    that the FORMER president took for granted, writing checks that others pay......
    Well, considering Obama PROBABLY won't listen or be at the live shows.. no.
    You sure??
    I heard he has a REALLY good 10c#!!! :lol:
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    Lizard wrote:
    Jeremy's Spoken wrote:
    Good Onya wrote:
    Will Ed have to modify the lyrics then?

    2020 watch it go to fire?.........

    that the FORMER president took for granted, writing checks that others pay......
    Well, considering Obama PROBABLY won't listen or be at the live shows.. no.
    You sure??
    I heard he has a REALLY good 10c#!!! :lol:
    He got a special Ed's hometown #.

    Heard he is like 14,xxx
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  • Good OnyaGood Onya Posts: 25
    Mybe Obama isnt listening but we are. Will Ed still bitch about the govt?

    P.S WWS is good live..I like it
  • PJ Fan est. 1990PJ Fan est. 1990 Posts: 1,788
    i'm sure he will stop playing the obvious, not so serious, songs like bushleagure, here's to the state, masters of war, etc. but the one's that seem like a more legit songs like Do the Evolution, WWS, etc. will still still be played, maybe he'll bring back bushleagure just for fun on a later date...but i'd say good-bye to "some see george bush as half empty, I SEE HIM ALL THE WAY FULL OF SHIT!" and tags like that
  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    This is why politically dated songs are fucking lame. They're obsolete after a short time. Ed should be more ambiguous with his lyrics. He's slipping in his old age.
  • pj.uw.laurapj.uw.laura Posts: 553
    Ed changes lyrics all the time to make them relevant to what's going on.

    Take Chicago 2006 when they played Glorified G and made it about Dick Cheney shooting his attorney...
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,412
    But I LIKE Bushleaguer! Now, they could just play it for fun. :geek:
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  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,335
    I hope they don't stop playing World Wide Suicide and Do The Evolution. I love those songs. I can do without the Bushleaguer song though. I may be the only one but those lyrics just never made any sense to me.
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  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    If Ed doesn't have his head too far up his ass he is aware that he was duped and Obama's foreign policy is a mirror image of the Bush/Cheney foreign policy...and there is no real change taking place.

    I can only hope he isn't as naive as a lot of the people in this country seem to be.
  • pjheasds8pjheasds8 Posts: 91
    since Do the Evolution was mentioned...

    i'm not trying to turn this into some religious-related thread...it's just weird this came up. I came home from work and had this email in my inbox...from a family member. i'm not some bible thumping religious nut. this is just the beginning of the looooong email that the world is "going to fire!!" this is written by some "prophet" David Wilkerson:


    DAVID WILKERSON
    Posted by David Wilkerson on 3/07/2009
    Friday, March 6, 2009


    I am compelled by the Holy Spirit to send out an urgent message to all on our mailing list, and to friends and to bishops we have met all over the world.

    AN EARTH-SHATTERING CALAMITY IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. IT IS GOING TO BE SO FRIGHTENING, WE ARE ALL GOING TO TREMBLE - EVEN THE GODLIEST AMONG US.

    For ten years I have been warning about a thousand fires coming to New York City. It will engulf the whole megaplex, including areas of New Jersey and Connecticut. Major cities all across America will experience riots and blazing fires—such as we saw in Watts, Los Angeles, years ago.

    There will be riots and fires in cities worldwide. There will be looting—including Times Square, New York City. What we are experiencing now is not a recession, not even a depression. We are under God’s wrath. In Psalm 11 it is written,

    “If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?” (v. 3).

    God is judging the raging sins of America and the nations. He is destroying the secular foundations.

    The prophet Jeremiah pleaded with wicked Israel, “God is fashioning a calamity against you and devising a plan against you. Oh, turn back each of you from your evil way, and reform your ways and deeds. But they will say, It’s hopeless! For we are going to follow our own plans, and each of us will act according to the stubbornness of his evil heart” (Jeremiah 18:11-12).
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I'm just fucking glad that George W. Bush is no longer our President. I will miss 'Bushleaguer'... but, will glady accept it's loss if it means there is no G.W.Bush shithead running the show anymore.
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  • Good OnyaGood Onya Posts: 25
    You are a crazy breed...Your comments are something that taste like a popsicle thats been shoved up somebodys ass.

    No change?...

    Ending the war in Iraq is one

    Closing the torture camps down is two

    Looking to see if torture was used by the Bush people and banning torture is three

    Wanting to have talks with countries that could be a threat instead of just going straight to war is four

    Obama has been in office 51 days....chill out
  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    Good Onya wrote:
    You are a crazy breed...Your comments are something that taste like a popsicle thats been shoved up somebodys ass.

    No change?...

    Ending the war in Iraq is one

    Closing the torture camps down is two

    Looking to see if torture was used by the Bush people and banning torture is three

    Wanting to have talks with countries that could be a threat instead of just going straight to war is four

    Obama has been in office 51 days....chill out

    ending the war in Iraq?? when did it end??oh you mean he said he was going to end it..while shifting all the troops next door to Afghanistan...and bombing Pakistan several times already..and pulling out of the world conference on racism because Zionism is the prime topic and Obama is in the back pocket of the Zionist Jews..yeah he's all about change..changing his mind to not follow through with his empty promises like every other politician...get a clue dude!

    closing Gitmo is bullshit..the CIA will just torture somewhere else.

    all these "changes" are a meaningless facade to appease the masses of sheep who voted for him.
  • tubes10stubes10s Posts: 535
    as far as "writing checks while others pay..." Obama is writing some nice sized checks himself in his short time in office... my own belief is that Obama fooled a lot of folks with many of his promises, he seems to be doing quite an about-face on so many things already. but then again, he's just another politician, so nobody should be surprised with that.
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  • DPrival78DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    Good Onya wrote:
    You are a crazy breed...Your comments are something that taste like a popsicle thats been shoved up somebodys ass.

    No change?...

    Ending the war in Iraq is one

    Closing the torture camps down is two

    Looking to see if torture was used by the Bush people and banning torture is three

    Wanting to have talks with countries that could be a threat instead of just going straight to war is four

    Obama has been in office 51 days....chill out

    obama works for the same people bush worked for. and not only is he continuing all the important bush policies (except for a few cosmetic changes), he's even accelerating the demise of this country with these bailouts/stimulus packages. this economic crisis is being engineered by the world's financial elite, and obama, like bush, is just one of their agents.

    'worldwide suicide' may be even more prevalent now.
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  • Eduardo VeduardoEduardo Veduardo Posts: 218
    If we're all lucky, we will have seen the end of the obligatory "No More" encore performance.
  • Good OnyaGood Onya Posts: 25
    lets all blame Obama now, he has been president for almost 52 days. Give the guy a chance, its gunna take more than 52 days to fix 8 years worth of greed that Bushy and his admin. did to us. Chill out people. Im sure if you had any good ideas, you wouldnt be posting them on a pj message pit but maybe would be in Washington D.C. Give him a chance. The world has come undone...........
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Good Onya wrote:
    lets all blame Obama now, he has been president for almost 52 days. Give the guy a chance, its gunna take more than 52 days to fix 8 years worth of greed that Bushy and his admin. did to us. Chill out people. Im sure if you had any good ideas, you wouldnt be posting them on a pj message pit but maybe would be in Washington D.C. Give him a chance. The world has come undone...........
    ...
    Didn't you know... the President of The United States of America is bestowed all of the powers of God Himself. Hell, God made the Universe, the Earth and humans in six days... Obama has had a whole 52 days.
    If he wants... Obama can just wave his hand and the Dow shoots back up to 12,000, Iraqis forget about 1400 years of a deep religious divide... and al Qaeda goes into the designer purse making business.
    ...
    What?
    ...
    He doesn't?
    ...
    I thought...
    ...
    Oh, well... nevermind.
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  • JM27548JM27548 Posts: 43
    Good Onya wrote:
    Are there some songs pearl jam will not play any more because a certain president is out of office?

    For example: Bushleaguer...this is a no brainer
    World wide suicide...its a war protest song but also rips on the commander in chief.

    Also if PJ tours in 2010, will they be able to sing Do the Evolution, what if doesnt go to fire in 2010?

    Any thoughts?


    they hardly played bushleaguer, since 03... when he still was in office
  • JM27548JM27548 Posts: 43
    Eduardo Veduardo wrote:
    If we're all lucky, we will have seen the end of the obligatory "No More" encore performance.

    "no more" = bathroom break
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    I like "No More" and I've never taken a break during a PJ concert!

    I only go before or after they're on stage.
    I just dont want to miss any minute of it. :D
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  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    DPrival78 wrote:
    Good Onya wrote:
    You are a crazy breed...Your comments are something that taste like a popsicle thats been shoved up somebodys ass.

    No change?...

    Ending the war in Iraq is one

    Closing the torture camps down is two

    Looking to see if torture was used by the Bush people and banning torture is three

    Wanting to have talks with countries that could be a threat instead of just going straight to war is four

    Obama has been in office 51 days....chill out

    obama works for the same people bush worked for. and not only is he continuing all the important bush policies (except for a few cosmetic changes), he's even accelerating the demise of this country with these bailouts/stimulus packages. this economic crisis is being engineered by the world's financial elite, and obama, like bush, is just one of their agents.

    'worldwide suicide' may be even more prevalent now.

    nice to see not everyone around here is drinking the Obama kool-aid or watching Fox "news".
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,312
    danny72688 wrote:
    This is why politically dated songs are fucking lame. They're obsolete after a short time. Ed should be more ambiguous with his lyrics. He's slipping in his old age.

    i still listen to csny and hendrix and ccr and a ton of others who wrote "politically dated songs," and i still think they kick ass...
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,434
    Good Onya wrote:
    Are there some songs pearl jam will not play any more because a certain president is out of office?

    For example: Bushleaguer...this is a no brainer
    World wide suicide...its a war protest song but also rips on the commander in chief.

    Also if PJ tours in 2010, will they be able to sing Do the Evolution, what if doesnt go to fire in 2010?

    Any thoughts?

    considering our iraq policy now hardly differs from bush's, i think pj would be hypocrits for not playing it still.
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