REAL HOPE: Majority Of U.S. States Join Sovereignty Movement

DriftingByTheStorm

THIS is how HOPE and CHANGE occur folks:
at the LOCAL level, not through some Messianic savior in the White House.
WE NEED STATE AND INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY.
We need to tell the Federal "Government" TO FUCK OFF.
It is NOT given ANY of the powers it currently holds by the Constitution.
IT DOES NOT REPRESENT US.
IT DOES NOT WORK FOR US.
IT DOES NOT LISTEN TO US.
IT IS NOT VALID, THE CONSTITUTION DECLARES IT SO,
AND WE ARE COMMANDED BY OUR FOUNDERS TO MAKE IT CEASE AND DESIST!

Majority Of U.S. States Join Sovereignty Movement, Assert 10th Amendment Rights
New World Liberty
February 25, 2009

A majority of states have bills passed or have proposed bill which affirm 10th Amendment rights. Some affirm additional rights and/or give specific reasons. New Hampshire has written the most aggressive legislation.

The Federal Reserve owners want the economy to collapse so they can grab real assets and power.

With the economy collapsing, it is a very real and immediate danger that the federal government can turn into a completely criminal and fascist government. They’ll put foreign troops on their streets. They’ll grab people to put in forced labor or concentration camps if they are unemployed or protesting. They’ll conduct experiments on these prisoners.

This is especially true since a private corporation owned by a small group of people, who own over half the world’s wealth, control our currency and monetary policy through the Federal Reserve. They also have such power over the world as a whole through the World Bank, IMF, most other national central banks, numerous well-funded non-government organizations, and numerous corrupted government officials.

The Federal Reserve owners want the economy to collapse so they can grab real assets and power. Their whole monetary system is a giant ponzi scheme designed to fail because money is based on the issuance of debt, and the interest owed is not put into the system except through more debt with more interest.

The stock market has dropped 50% in value since this started last year. This is a great depression. The unemployment will rise. The spending of the two bailouts plus the trillions the Federal Reserve has printed will cause inflation to rise sharply. This same situation happened to the Soviet Union. This is not just an economic recession.

This is not just about mortgages since the value of mortgages is much less than the spending packages. The financial releveraging of the mortgages in the form of financial derivatives has magnified the problem. Giving loans to high risk individuals and giving ARM loans did stimulate the problem. The manipulation of oil prices through dollar devaluation and speculation also helped stimulate problem.

This current economic problem is largely due to the fact that we’ve been existing on borrowed time, running huge trade deficits and growing debt exponentially. Our assets now exceed our debt. We now owe more interest on our debts than we can possibly earn. The debt ponzi scheme our currency is based has busted and has started the process of collapse. We can’t spend our way out of this because we’re out of assets and out of credit.

This group of men who own most of the world’s currencies and wealth want complete centralized control of printing money. They also want a powerful undemocratic regional and world government which can usurp the sovereignty of national governments. They want more European Unions. They want a stronger United Nations. They want to push their own agendas, which include population reduction through eugenics. The threat is real and well documented in policy documents and in the main stream press.

The Federal Reserve is doing to the United States exactly what the IMF and World Bank do to third world nations. Unless we wake up and get our head out of our fluoride and Prozac ass, we’re going to find ourselves as a third world nation, if not in the middle of World War III, the Fourth Reich, civil war, and revolution.

The only way we can stop the U.S. government and these banks is through the states. If the states are united, the people are united. If the people are united, the U.S. government ceases to function, and the states are able to reform a functioning and lawful U.S. government instead of the completely corrupt, rogue, destructive, and lawless federal government we have now.

Armed rebellion is not going to work. It will just result in a lot of dead people because the U.S. government has excessive firepower. Violent rebellion is exactly what the men in control of our money want.

I encourage everyone to write, email, or call their state legislatures to encourage the passage of such bills. You may also wish to contact your federal reserve senators and representative letting them know you’ve lost faith in their ability to represent the people of the United States.

We need stronger legislation with stronger teeth to make a stand peacefully and legally. We must act to prevent what is happening in Arcadia, Iowa, with the Iowa National Guard training for door-to-door gun confiscation.

We can’t allow the U.S. government to continue to usurp state sovereignty. If we allow the U.S. government to do this, we’re going to have a lot of dead people in this nation because a lot of people aren’t going to give up their guns and aren’t going to tolerate the U.S. military, corporate militias, and foreign troops invading their communities and homes.

The states may be forced to stand down. However, we started the process of thinking locally to solve our problems and to make it through these tough times. We want local, responsible, and focused local and state law enforcement to maintain order. We don’t want foreign troops and the U.S. military to do this for us.

We should consider training our local and state law enforcement to stop such door-to-door terrorism by agents of the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve. We should consider making it a high crime in the state for a federal official to offer a bribe and a high crime to receive such a bribe.

Whether you agree with everything I put forth or not, a majority of the people do believe the U.S. government is corrupt, out-of-control, and don’t represent the interests of the people. If you don’t agree, you haven’t done the research nor have you paid close enough attention to the news. We’re on the verge of major crisis and change.

Here are a list of states who have passed or proposed bills to affirm 10th Amendment rights. We need to continue to encourage the states to take more specific action because of the very real dangers. I’ll try to keep this list updated with links.

2009: Arkansas - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues
2009: Arizona - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment
1994: California - 10th Amendment
1995/96: Georgia - 10th Amendment
2009: Georgia - 10th Amendment
2009: Kansas - 10th Amendment
1997/98: Louisiana - Sovereignty Constitutional Amendment
2009: Michigan - 10th Amendment
2009: Minnesota - 10th Amendment
2009: Missouri - Freedom of Choice Act (Abortion), 10th Amendment
2009: Montana - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, 2nd Amendment
2009: New Hampshire - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Federal Reserve, Taxes, Martial Law, 2nd Amendment, Draft/War, Patriot Act, Labor Camps, 1st Amendment
2008: Oklahoma - 10th Amendment, (Other Legislation: No Child Left Behind, Real ID Act)
2009: Oklahoma - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues
2009: South Carolina - 9th Amendment, 10 Amendment, Martial Law and Related, 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment
2009: Tennessee - 10th Amendment
2009: Texas - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues
2009: Utah - Real ID Act
2009: Washington - 10th Amendment
* Proposed: Alabama - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment
* Proposed: Alaska
* 1994: Colorado - 10th Amendment
* 1995: Florida - 10th Amendment
* Proposed [HJM RS18517]: Idaho - 10th Amendment
* 2009: Indiana - 10th Amendment
* 2009: Iowa - 10th Amendment
* Proposed: Maine
* Proposed: Nevada
* Proposed: Ohio - 10th Amendment
* Proposed: Pennsylvania - 10th Amendment
* Proposed: Virginia - 10th Amendment
* Proposed: West Virginia - Same As New Hampshire
Republic of Lakotah - Full Independence
Hawaii - Full Independence
* Some are not verified with the actual state and may have not yet been proposed or passed in the state.

VIDEO: Interview With NH Sovereignty Bill Sponsor

DriftingByTheStorm

HCR 6 – AS INTRODUCED

2009 SESSION

09-0274

09/01

HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 6

A RESOLUTION affirming States’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles.

SPONSORS: Rep. Itse, Rock 9; Rep. Ingbretson, Graf 5; Rep. Comerford, Rock 9; Sen. Denley, Dist 3

COMMITTEE: State-Federal Relations and Veterans Affairs

ANALYSIS

This house concurrent resolution affirms States’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles.

09-0274

09/01

STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE

In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand Nine

A RESOLUTION affirming States’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles.

Whereas the Constitution of the State of New Hampshire, Part 1, Article 7 declares that the people of this State have the sole and exclusive right of governing themselves as a free, sovereign, and independent State; and do, and forever hereafter shall, exercise and enjoy every power, jurisdiction, and right, pertaining thereto, which is not, or may not hereafter be, by them expressly delegated to the United States of America in congress assembled; and

Whereas the Constitution of the State of New Hampshire, Part 2, Article 1 declares that the people inhabiting the territory formerly called the province of New Hampshire, do hereby solemnly and mutually agree with each other, to form themselves into a free, sovereign and independent body-politic, or State, by the name of The State of New Hampshire; and

Whereas the State of New Hampshire when ratifying the Constitution for the United States of America recommended as a change, “First That it be Explicitly declared that all Powers not expressly & particularly Delegated by the aforesaid are reserved to the several States to be, by them Exercised;” and

Whereas the other States that included recommendations, to wit Massachusetts, New York, North Carolina, Rhode Island and Virginia, included an identical or similar recommended change; and

Whereas these recommended changes were incorporated as the ninth amendment, the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people, and the tenth amendment, the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people, to the Constitution for the United States of America; now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the House of Representatives, the Senate concurring:

That the several States composing the United States of America, are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their General Government; but that, by a compact under the style and title of a Constitution for the United States, and of amendments thereto, they constituted a General Government for special purposes, -- delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government; and that whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force; that to this compact each State acceded as a State, and is an integral party, its co-States forming, as to itself, the other party: that the government created by this compact was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself; since that would have made its discretion, and not the Constitution, the measure of its powers; but that, as in all other cases of compact among powers having no common judge, each party has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress; and

That the Constitution of the United States, having delegated to Congress a power to punish treason, counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States, piracies, and felonies committed on the high seas, and offences against the law of nations, slavery, and no other crimes whatsoever; and it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” therefore all acts of Congress which assume to create, define, or punish crimes, other than those so enumerated in the Constitution are altogether void, and of no force; and that the power to create, define, and punish such other crimes is reserved, and, of right, appertains solely and exclusively to the respective States, each within its own territory; and

That it is true as a general principle, and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the Constitution, that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people;” and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, and were reserved to the States or the people: that thus was manifested their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated, rather than the use be destroyed. And thus also they guarded against all abridgment by the United States of the freedom of religious opinions and exercises, and retained to themselves the right of protecting the same. And that in addition to this general principle and express declaration, another and more special provision has been made by one of the amendments to the Constitution, which expressly declares, that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press:” thereby guarding in the same sentence, and under the same words, the freedom of religion, of speech, and of the press: insomuch, that whatever violated either, throws down the sanctuary which covers the others, and that libels, falsehood, and defamation, equally with heresy and false religion, are withheld from the cognizance of federal tribunals. That, therefore, all acts of Congress of the United States which do abridge the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, are not law, but are altogether void, and of no force; and

That the construction applied by the General Government (as is evidenced by sundry of their proceedings) to those parts of the Constitution of the United States which delegate to Congress a power “to lay and collect taxes, duties, imports, and excises, to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States,” and “to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the powers vested by the Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof,” goes to the destruction of all limits prescribed to their power by the Constitution: that words meant by the instrument to be subsidiary only to the execution of limited powers, ought not to be so construed as themselves to give unlimited powers, nor a part to be so taken as to destroy the whole residue of that instrument: that the proceedings of the General Government under color of these articles, will be a fit and necessary subject of revisal and correction; and

That a committee of conference and correspondence be appointed, which shall have as its charge to communicate the preceding resolutions to the Legislatures of the several States; to assure them that this State continues in the same esteem of their friendship and union which it has manifested from that moment at which a common danger first suggested a common union: that it considers union, for specified national purposes, and particularly to those specified in their federal compact, to be friendly to the peace, happiness and prosperity of all the States: that faithful to that compact, according to the plain intent and meaning in which it was understood and acceded to by the several parties, it is sincerely anxious for its preservation: that it does also believe, that to take from the States all the powers of self-government and transfer them to a general and consolidated government, without regard to the special delegations and reservations solemnly agreed to in that compact, is not for the peace, happiness or prosperity of these States; and that therefore this State is determined, as it doubts not its co-States are, to submit to undelegated, and consequently unlimited powers in no man, or body of men on earth: that in cases of an abuse of the delegated powers, the members of the General Government, being chosen by the people, a change by the people would be the constitutional remedy; but, where powers are assumed which have not been delegated, a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy: that every State has a natural right in cases not within the compact, (casus non foederis), to nullify of their own authority all assumptions of power by others within their limits: that without this right, they would be under the dominion, absolute and unlimited, of whosoever might exercise this right of judgment for them: that nevertheless, this State, from motives of regard and respect for its co-States, has wished to communicate with them on the subject: that with them alone it is proper to communicate, they alone being parties to the compact, and solely authorized to judge in the last resort of the powers exercised under it, Congress being not a party, but merely the creature of the compact, and subject as to its assumptions of power to the final judgment of those by whom, and for whose use itself and its powers were all created and modified: that if the acts before specified should stand, these conclusions would flow from them: that it would be a dangerous delusion were a confidence in the men of our choice to silence our fears for the safety of our rights: that confidence is everywhere the parent of despotism -- free government is founded in jealousy, and not in confidence; it is jealousy and not confidence which prescribes limited constitutions, to bind down those whom we are obliged to trust with power: that our Constitution has accordingly fixed the limits to which, and no further, our confidence may go. In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution. That this State does therefore call on its co-States for an expression of their sentiments on acts not authorized by the federal compact. And it doubts not that their sense will be so announced as to prove their attachment unaltered to limited government, whether general or particular. And that the rights and liberties of their co-States will be exposed to no dangers by remaining embarked in a common bottom with their own. That they will concur with this State in considering acts as so palpably against the Constitution as to amount to an undisguised declaration that that compact is not meant to be the measure of the powers of the General Government, but that it will proceed in the exercise over these States, of all powers whatsoever: that they will view this as seizing the rights of the States, and consolidating them in the hands of the General Government, with a power assumed to bind the States, not merely as the cases made federal, (casus foederis,) but in all cases whatsoever, by laws made, not with their consent, but by others against their consent: that this would be to surrender the form of government we have chosen, and live under one deriving its powers from its own will, and not from our authority; and that the co-States, recurring to their natural right in cases not made federal, will concur in declaring these acts void, and of no force, and will each take measures of its own for providing that neither these acts, nor any others of the General Government not plainly and intentionally authorized by the Constitution, shall be exercised within their respective territories; and

That the said committee be authorized to communicate by writing or personal conferences, at any times or places whatever, with any person or person who may be appointed by any one or more co-States to correspond or confer with them; and that they lay their proceedings before the next session of the General Court; and

That any Act by the Congress of the United States, Executive Order of the President of the United States of America or Judicial Order by the Judicatories of the United States of America which assumes a power not delegated to the government of United States of America by the Constitution for the United States of America and which serves to diminish the liberty of the any of the several States or their citizens shall constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States of America by the government of the United States of America. Acts which would cause such a nullification include, but are not limited to:

I. Establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the States comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that State.

II. Requiring involuntary servitude, or governmental service other than a draft during a declared war, or pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

III. Requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service of persons under the age of 18 other than pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

IV. Surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government.

V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press.

VI. Further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition; and

That should any such act of Congress become law or Executive Order or Judicial Order be put into force, all powers previously delegated to the United States of America by the Constitution for the United States shall revert to the several States individually. Any future government of the United States of America shall require ratification of three quarters of the States seeking to form a government of the United States of America and shall not be binding upon any State not seeking to form such a government; and

That copies of this resolution be transmitted by the house clerk to the President of the United States, each member of the United States Congress, and the presiding officers of each State’s legislature.

soulsinging

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

With the economy collapsing, it is a very real and immediate danger that the federal government can turn into a completely criminal and fascist government. They’ll put foreign troops on their streets. They’ll grab people to put in forced labor or concentration camps if they are unemployed or protesting. They’ll conduct experiments on these prisoners.

Like hell that's going to happen. What's that Japanese general say about Americans? We're slow to anger but when roused there's no stopping the fury. DC would burn if something like this happened.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Armed rebellion is not going to work. It will just result in a lot of dead people because the U.S. government has excessive firepower. Violent rebellion is exactly what the men in control of our money want.

That's what the British thought.

What purpose does a 10th amendment bill serve?

DriftingByTheStorm

soulsinging wrote:

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

With the economy collapsing, it is a very real and immediate danger that the federal government can turn into a completely criminal and fascist government. They’ll put foreign troops on their streets. They’ll grab people to put in forced labor or concentration camps if they are unemployed or protesting. They’ll conduct experiments on these prisoners.

Like hell that's going to happen. What's that Japanese general say about Americans? We're slow to anger but when roused there's no stopping the fury. DC would burn if something like this happened.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Armed rebellion is not going to work. It will just result in a lot of dead people because the U.S. government has excessive firepower. Violent rebellion is exactly what the men in control of our money want.

That's what the British thought.

What purpose does a 10th amendment bill serve?

We had EQUAL ARMS in 1775.
Go read Tragedy & Hope (enough to get you started) by Carroll Quigley.
He explains this (with relation to world history, not the US Revolution) at length in the first 40 pages (its a 1200 page book). Liberty occurs when technology is at the point where a general equality in arms capacity exists between governments and men. When technology proceeds to the point where governments may generally be assumed to obtain GREATER ARMS capacity than the population at large, DESPOTISM OCCURS.

The ONLY equalizer in this equation would be the HUMAN resource.
If "they" can't convince "us" to kill EACHOTHER, than you are correct, WE CAN WIN.
So i do hold some hope in open armed revolution,
but do not kid yourself as to think it would be ANYthing like 1775.
You want to see cities get neutron bombed in the name of civil war?
:(

soulsinging

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

We had EQUAL ARMS in 1775.
Go read Tragedy & Hope (enough to get you started) by Carroll Quigley.
He explains this (with relation to world history, not the US Revolution) at length in the first 40 pages (its a 1200 page book). Liberty occurs when technology is at the point where a general equality in arms capacity exists between governments and men. When technology proceeds to the point where governments may generally be assumed to obtain GREATER ARMS capacity than the population at large, DESPOTISM OCCURS.

The ONLY equalizer in this equation would be the HUMAN resource.
If "they" can't convince "us" to kill EACHOTHER, than you are correct, WE CAN WIN.
So i do hold some hope in open armed revolution,
but do not kid yourself as to think it would be ANYthing like 1775.
You want to see cities get neutron bombed in the name of civil war?
:(

Fuckin A man, I'm moving to Cleveland this fall. You ever been there? I don't think anyone could tell the difference if it got neutron bombed

DriftingByTheStorm

soulsinging wrote:

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

We had EQUAL ARMS in 1775.
Go read Tragedy & Hope (enough to get you started) by Carroll Quigley.
He explains this (with relation to world history, not the US Revolution) at length in the first 40 pages (its a 1200 page book). Liberty occurs when technology is at the point where a general equality in arms capacity exists between governments and men. When technology proceeds to the point where governments may generally be assumed to obtain GREATER ARMS capacity than the population at large, DESPOTISM OCCURS.

The ONLY equalizer in this equation would be the HUMAN resource.
If "they" can't convince "us" to kill EACHOTHER, than you are correct, WE CAN WIN.
So i do hold some hope in open armed revolution,
but do not kid yourself as to think it would be ANYthing like 1775.
You want to see cities get neutron bombed in the name of civil war?
:(

Going by the chatter,
it seems CHICAGO is in the running for first to be nuked.
I think it was Gary Hart who just said, "maybe then Obama will know and understand the danger we face"
refering to when chicago gets nuked.

Also, one of the public saftey chiefs from Chicago has been on record saying that the Federal Government (DHS) has been asking them for information on where EVERYTHING in the city is. He says its "exactly the information they would need during Martial Law".

Hmm.

Fuckin A man, I'm moving to Cleveland this fall. You ever been there? I don't think anyone could tell the difference if it got neutron bombed

soulsinging

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Going by the chatter,
it seems CHICAGO is in the running for first to be nuked.
I think it was Gary Hart who just said, "maybe then Obama will know and understand the danger we face"
refering to when chicago gets nuked.

Also, one of the public saftey chiefs from Chicago has been on record saying that the Federal Government (DHS) has been asking them for information on where EVERYTHING in the city is. He says its "exactly the information they would need during Martial Law".

Hmm.

What is this nonsense? Have you been teleported here from the 1950's?

1) I said Cleveland, not Chicago. Try reading.
2) Chicago's going to be nuked by who? I find it hard to believe Gary Hart said the US is planning to drop a nuclear weapon on Chicago.

DriftingByTheStorm

soulsinging wrote:

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Going by the chatter,
it seems CHICAGO is in the running for first to be nuked.
I think it was Gary Hart who just said, "maybe then Obama will know and understand the danger we face"
refering to when chicago gets nuked.

Also, one of the public saftey chiefs from Chicago has been on record saying that the Federal Government (DHS) has been asking them for information on where EVERYTHING in the city is. He says its "exactly the information they would need during Martial Law".

Hmm.

What is this nonsense? Have you been teleported here from the 1950's?

1) I said Cleveland, not Chicago. Try reading.
2) Chicago's going to be nuked by who? I find it hard to believe Gary Hart said the US is planning to drop a nuclear weapon on Chicago.

I know what you said, jerk.
I was making a reference.
You refered to nukes dropping on Cleveland, and i was REFERENCING that to the fact that CHICAGO and NOT Cleveland has come up several times in reference to martial law and bombs going off.

And it was JOHN BOLTON not Gary Hart.
Sorry, there is SO MUCH going on right now its hard to keep up.

Gary Hart was recently talking about CIVIC DUTY.
ooh boy.
Lets drop some bombs, and make us some forced "volunteer" armies!

Is FEMA & DHS preparing for mass graves and martial law near Chicago?

Chicago Suburb Hosts “Disaster” Drill

New World Order Crony Gary Hart Calls for “Civic Duty”

soulsinging

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I know what you said, jerk.
I was making a reference.
You refered to nukes dropping on Cleveland, and i was REFERENCING that to the fact that CHICAGO and NOT Cleveland has come up several times in reference to martial law and bombs going off.

And it was JOHN BOLTON not Gary Hart.
Sorry, there is SO MUCH going on right now its hard to keep up.

Gary Hart was recently talking about CIVIC DUTY.
ooh boy.
Lets drop some bombs, and make us some forced "volunteer" armies!

Is FEMA & DHS preparing for mass graves and martial law near Chicago?

Chicago Suburb Hosts “Disaster” Drill

New World Order Crony Gary Hart Calls for “Civic Duty”

Infowars? I should have guessed. Also, Bolton's comment was (as I suspected) about other countries attacking the US. You and I were discussing martial law at home when you implied the US would nuke itself. So his comments are irrelevant.

DriftingByTheStorm

soulsinging wrote:

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I know what you said, jerk.
I was making a reference.
You refered to nukes dropping on Cleveland, and i was REFERENCING that to the fact that CHICAGO and NOT Cleveland has come up several times in reference to martial law and bombs going off.

And it was JOHN BOLTON not Gary Hart.
Sorry, there is SO MUCH going on right now its hard to keep up.

Gary Hart was recently talking about CIVIC DUTY.
ooh boy.
Lets drop some bombs, and make us some forced "volunteer" armies!

Is FEMA & DHS preparing for mass graves and martial law near Chicago?

Chicago Suburb Hosts “Disaster” Drill

New World Order Crony Gary Hart Calls for “Civic Duty”

Infowars? I should have guessed. Also, Bolton's comment was (as I suspected) about other countries attacking the US. You and I were discussing martial law at home when you implied the US would nuke itself. So his comments are irrelevant.

Well NO SHIT, sherlock.
You don't say.
You mean bolton didn't actually say the US would nuke itself?
:shock: :shock:

Look.
HOW MANY TIMES DOES THE US GOVERNMENT HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS THE BOOGEYMAN, before you realize the only one to be scared of comes from within?

The Gulf of Tonkin alone should have been enough to WAKE THIS COUNTRY UP.
But no.
You will accept false flag terror,
and lie after lie about troop build ups on borders, or dead babies in incubators,
or Russia agressing against Georgia, or Bin Laden is the ringleader of the most shadowy group in history (you know, besides the elite themselves of course) WHATEVER THE FUCK

ITS ALWAYS LIES, DISINFO, BLACK OPS AND FALSEFLAGS FROM THE USGov.

and you sit there laughing like some sort of ... ?

soulsinging

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Well NO SHIT, sherlock.
You don't say.
You mean bolton didn't actually say the US would nuke itself?
:shock: :shock:

Look.
HOW MANY TIMES DOES THE US GOVERNMENT HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS THE BOOGEYMAN, before you realize the only one to be scared of comes from within?

The Gulf of Tonkin alone should have been enough to WAKE THIS COUNTRY UP.
But no.
You will accept false flag terror,
and lie after lie about troop build ups on borders, or dead babies in incubators,
or Russia agressing against Georgia, or Bin Laden is the ringleader of the most shadowy group in history (you know, besides the elite themselves of course) WHATEVER THE FUCK

ITS ALWAYS LIES, DISINFO, BLACK OPS AND FALSEFLAGS FROM THE USGov.

and you sit there laughing like some sort of ... ?

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Liberty occurs when technology is at the point where a general equality in arms capacity exists between governments and men. When technology proceeds to the point where governments may generally be assumed to obtain GREATER ARMS capacity than the population at large, DESPOTISM OCCURS.

The ONLY equalizer in this equation would be the HUMAN resource.
If "they" can't convince "us" to kill EACHOTHER, than you are correct, WE CAN WIN.
So i do hold some hope in open armed revolution,
but do not kid yourself as to think it would be ANYthing like 1775.
You want to see cities get neutron bombed in the name of civil war?

We're talking about armed revolution within the US and you say it can't be done because the US has more weapons, and then mention neutron bombs in the context of civil war within the US... seems pretty clear to me you were implying that US would be bombing itself. So that was just you spouting bullshit? The neutron bombs will come from other countries?

And while you're bitching about false flags... YOU are the only one I know of screaming about people blowing things up in the US and how we should all be terrified... interesting.

VINNY GOOMBA

Bottomline: the secrecy, the absolute power, and the lack of accountability and responsibility on the part of the United States federal government has to end IMMEDIATELY, and it starts with us.

Whether you believe that our government is capable of recreating Nazi Germany right here on our own soil is far less relevant than the actual fact that we, the apathetic public, have given our own government, the green light to overstep their boundaries, and destroy the constitution to the point where, if so desired, they could actually call us 'terrorists' and round us up to be thrown into detention camps indefinitely.

This is what needs to change-- the fact that something like this, or any act of 'terror,' false-flag, etc... could be used to turn our republic into a dictatorship overnight.

DriftingByTheStorm

Good afternoon,

This is just a quick (and final) reminder that if you want to make
your voice heard regarding NH House Concurrent Resolution 6 (HCR 6 -
Reaffirmation of States' Rights), that time is getting short. The
resolution will be heard by the full NH House on Wednesday Mar 4
(this coming Wed) at 10am. Will be heard, that is, unless House
Speaker Norelli decides it won't. There is a large rally on the
steps of the State House beginning at 8am on Wednesday to show
support for the resolution. The more people who can make it, the
better. This is the final opportunity to let the legislators know
how you feel before they vote. Feel free to bring a sign expressing
your support, so that the legislators can clearly see the support as
they show up for the vote.

If you have questions about the resolution, you can view it here:
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legisla ... R0006.html
If you haven't heard about all of the national attention this has
been getting, Google NH HCR 6, and check out the archives on Glen
Beck and Fox & Friends.

So, in short, if you do want to express your opinion to the
legislature on this resolution which reasserts to the federal
government our expectation that they adhere to the Constitution,
protecting our rights of free speech, freedom of religion, second
amendment rights, freedom from taxation without representation --- to
name but a few --- here are the steps to take prior to Wednesday Mar
4 (they'll only take a few minutes):

1) Email or call your State Reps. Simply, courteously, ask them to
support HCR6 when it comes to a vote. Their contact info is here:
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/m ... mbers.html

2) Contact the Speaker of the House, Terie Norelli,
<!-- e --><a href="mailto:terie.norelli@leg.state.nh.us">terie.norelli@leg.state.nh.us</a><!-- e --> or (603) 271-3661 and ask her to
support HCR6 when it comes to the full legislature for a vote

3) Contact all our delegation to the Federal government. Tell them to
support HCR6!
* Judd Gregg * Jeanne Shaheen * Paul
Hodes * Carol Shea-Porter

4) Pass this info along to everyone you know.

5) And if at all possible, show up Wednesday between 8 and 10 am to the State House
for the rally and the House Vote.

Regards,
Mike & Sue

Commy

How to prepare for the possible economic collapse of the United States.


http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/02/s ... tices.html


from the speech,


But let’s take it apart. Starting from the very general, what are the current macroeconomic objectives, if you listen to the hot air coming out of Washington at the moment? First: growth, of course! Getting the economy going. We learned nothing from the last huge spike in commodity prices, so let’s just try it again. That calls for economic stimulus, a.k.a. printing money. Let’s see how high the prices go up this time. Maybe this time around we will achieve hyperinflation. Second: Stabilizing financial institutions: getting banks lending – that’s important too. You see, we are just not in enough debt yet, that’s our problem. We need more debt, and quickly! Third: jobs! We need to create jobs. Low-wage jobs, of course, to replace all the high-wage manufacturing jobs we’ve been shedding for decades now, and replacing them with low-wage service sector jobs, mainly ones without any job security or benefits. Right now, a lot of people could slow down the rate at which they are sinking further into debt if they quit their jobs. That is, their job is a net loss for them as individuals as well as for the economy as a whole. But, of course, we need much more of that, and quickly!

soulsinging

Commy wrote:

But let’s take it apart. Starting from the very general, what are the current macroeconomic objectives, if you listen to the hot air coming out of Washington at the moment? First: growth, of course! Getting the economy going. We learned nothing from the last huge spike in commodity prices, so let’s just try it again. That calls for economic stimulus, a.k.a. printing money. Let’s see how high the prices go up this time. Maybe this time around we will achieve hyperinflation. Second: Stabilizing financial institutions: getting banks lending – that’s important too. You see, we are just not in enough debt yet, that’s our problem. We need more debt, and quickly!

That part was spot on, but some of this speech is nonsense. You'd think it was a little slice of comfortable paradise to live in their government housing during the collapse. Anyone remember what happened in the American "projects" during the 80s? Cabrini Green, etc? It was a nightmare of violence and disrepair.

Commy

soulsinging wrote:

Commy wrote:

But let’s take it apart. Starting from the very general, what are the current macroeconomic objectives, if you listen to the hot air coming out of Washington at the moment? First: growth, of course! Getting the economy going. We learned nothing from the last huge spike in commodity prices, so let’s just try it again. That calls for economic stimulus, a.k.a. printing money. Let’s see how high the prices go up this time. Maybe this time around we will achieve hyperinflation. Second: Stabilizing financial institutions: getting banks lending – that’s important too. You see, we are just not in enough debt yet, that’s our problem. We need more debt, and quickly!

That part was spot on, but some of this speech is nonsense. You'd think it was a little slice of comfortable paradise to live in their government housing during the collapse. Anyone remember what happened in the American "projects" during the 80s? Cabrini Green, etc? It was a nightmare of violence and disrepair.

yeah. I think he was trying to put a positive spin on what could be a terrible situation.