Grateful Dead
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Could someone tell me where to start with these guys?
I have the Live/Dead album and I am on track 3, cool stuff.
Just wondered which albums i should get
Thanks for any advice.
I have the Live/Dead album and I am on track 3, cool stuff.
Just wondered which albums i should get
Thanks for any advice.
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then dicks picks
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
Madison Square Garden 6/25/08
sweet dude! Thanks!
My download speed is dire here, so forget streaming ;p
They're one of the few all time great bands that I have never gotten into. I'll try some recommendations.
www.archive.org
but if you want studio:
best of skeletons from the closet
workingman's dead
american beauty
aoxamoxa
from the mars hotel
in the dark
P.S. The Scarlet Begonias -> Fire on the Mountain from 5/8/77 is better than sliced bread.
Here it is for streaming, I'll try to find it in Sendspace later...I'm having no luck right now.
Welcome to the Dead. One of the most timeless rock & roll bands I've ever listened to. They are nothing but pure music, and can fit any mood, season, and atmosphere. They never get old, boring, or overplayed. They're on a whole other level than every other band, in my opinion.
Listen to Scarlet>Fire from that show (probably the easiest way to get someone into the Dead - I've gotten countless people hooked from that song). Also, the St. Stephen>Not Fade Away>Morning Dew is one of my favorite Dead moments. Jerry's riffs in Not Fade Away still send shivers down my spine every time I listen to it...combined with the rythmic drumming and Donna's voice...ah, the magic of the Dead. I'm going to put this show on now...
Madison Square Garden 6/25/08
The quick breakdown (from my bad memory of collecting): Early stuff from 69 - 71 and so were pretty good especially on songs like DarkStar (LIVE DEAD!), though pig-pen's voice was kinda a monkeywrench in songs he sang until he passed away in '73.
In '72 you had Keith Godchaux start playing on keys, just prior to Pigpen's death, but Keith's wife Donna Jean Godchaux singing in the background could be a blessing or a curse. Keith and Donna left the band in '79 and was replaced by Brent Midland.
Brent kinda had a nice bluesy voice on some songs. After his death in 1990 he was replaced by Vince Welnick (who probably had the least fans) but Bruce Hornsby played often with them during this time too. In a conversation I had with Bruce Hornsby while we were lost in New Jersey looking for a taco bell, he told me that the dead had wanted him to join the band instead of Welnick, but that he was already very happy and successful playing on his own, and that sometimes he'd be playing with the dead and it would be so bad that he would be cringing to himself.
Anyway, I wish I had some tapes so I could tell you what I noted as great shows. '76-'78 were peak years. You'll find tons of great bootlegs out there, many soundboards too.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
http://theultimatebootlegexperience.blo ... ful%20Dead
I like Madison, WI 2-15-1972 a lot. Highly recommended:
Box of Rain
China Cat Sunflower->I Know You Rider
Playing In The Band
Casey Jones
El Paso
They Love Each Other
Sugar Magnolia
And if you can get through it, Dark Star and Eyes of the World.
6/18/74
5/8/77
7/8/77
10/9/89
Madison Square Garden 6/25/08
Also I think it's either 5/9/77 or some second show they did at the same venue on a consecutive day which was a great show too, but is underrated.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
spring 82 was terrific (check out 4/18/82)
83 was a great year, especially the fall runs at MSG and hartford
berkley 84 run is also terrific
things dont start to get rough until 85 (day job anyone?), but even then there are some grate shows in the eighties
I also really like the 91 fall run at the boston garden
of course jerry's voice sounded much better in the mid to late 70s, but I prefer the Brent years over the pig, keith/donna, or welnick/hornsby eras-probably because thats when I saw most of my shows.
* "Feel Like A Stranger" recorded at Hampton Coliseum, Hampton, Virginia on October 9, 1989
* "Cassidy" recorded at The Spectrum, Philadelphia on October 19, 1989
* "Bird Song" recorded at Great Western Forum, Inglewood, California on December 9, 1989
* "Let It Grow" recorded at Capital Centre, Landover, Maryland on March 14, 1990
* "Walkin' Blues" and "Althea" recorded at Capital Centre on March 15, 1990
* "Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo" and "Victim or the Crime" recorded at Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario on March 21, 1990
* "One More Saturday Night" recorded at Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, New York on March 24, 1990
* "Looks Like Rain" recorded at Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, New York on March 28, 1990
* "Eyes of the World" recorded at Nassau Coliseum on March 29, 1990
* "Help on the Way/Slipknot!/Franklin's Tower" recorded at Nassau Coliseum on March 30, 1990
* "China Cat Sunflower/I Know You Rider" and "Dear Mr. Fantasy" recorded at The Omni, Atlanta on April 1, 1990
Personally I like these 89-90 shows best. Brent was amazing. Jerry's midi work was pretty sweet.
Madison Square Garden 6/25/08
Well that is certainly interesting. I hear that the Dead have done that a bunch.
Now how does this connect to the the Dead? Well on the Dead's upcoming tour Warren Haynes will be handling lead guitar, as he did on their 2004 tour. Warren's band is Gov't Mule. He also plays in the Allman Brothers Band. He can even be connected to Pearl Jam with his 07.05.02 cover of Indifference. I'd strongly recommend you find Warren Haynes song "Patchwork Quilt" form Live at Bonnaroo. The song is about Jerry's death.
Sorry to bring in other bands into the Dead's thread but I know when i started to get into them 10 years ago some other bands like ABB, PJ's 1995 shows, and the now defunct Big Wu helped me appreciate the Dead so much more.
I'd also look at some of Jerry's solo work, personally I think is playing is more gentle, not weaker, than when he plays with the dead. You'll be able to hear why he meant as much as he did to the deadheads. The "Don't Let Go" 2 disc set from May 21, 1976 is probably my favorite commercially available live album of Jerry's.
If you wanna hear some funkier stuff he did you should look at the "The Jerry Garcia Collection Volume 1: Legion of Mary" from jerrygarcia.com i believe is where i bought mine. Legion of Mary "was an American rock band, formed by Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead and his friend and musical collaborator Merl Saunders.[1][2][3] The band lasted from July 12, 1974 to July 5, 1975. Its members included Garcia (guitar and vocals), Saunders (keyboards), John Kahn (bass guitar), Martin Fierro (saxophone and flute) and Paul Humphrey (drums). Ron Tutt replaced Humphrey as the band's drummer in February 1975.[4]
In their concerts, Legion of Mary played rock music that had an eclectic mix of influences, including blues, funk, reggae, rock and roll, and especially jazz.[5] Performances included extended improvisation solos, which Garcia made famous with his role in the Grateful Dead. Their only official recording was released on Rhino Records in August 2005, under the name The Jerry Garcia Collection, Vol 1: Legion of Mary; it is a two-disc set of live material.[6]" stole that from wikipedia. Whatever you end up doing I hope you enjoy the music as it can change your life.
Also of note from Haynes, was the NYE show from 2 months ago. The whole encore was a grunge tribute. Played several PJ songs, ToTD, Nirvana, AIC, Soundgarden. Pretty cool stuff. The last 2 Halloween shows from the Mule have been amazing too. In 07 they played Houses of the Holy and in 08 they played several Pink Floyd numbers.
warner theater 1978 cd is fantastic
I think it was a few months earlier at Nassau that Micky was banging away during drums, and Bill steps back on stage with a strange thing which looks like a car engine with horns sticking out all around, strapped to his chest. It was hard to see, but he had extra-big hearing protectors on... then WAAAAHHHHHH!!! It was a train horn to freak out all the stoned peeps during drums. ...It didn't even need to be hooked up to the sound system it was so loud.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10