Who needs record labels? These 10 artists don’t... (pearl jam related)

guertin32

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harmless_little_f***

I'm sorry but this is largely bollocks. None of these bands would be anywhere without having once been on giant record labels. Pearl Jam would probably be nowhere near where they are without EPIC.

guertin32

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

I'm sorry but this is largely bollocks. None of these bands would be anywhere without having once been on giant record labels. Pearl Jam would probably be nowhere near where they are without EPIC.

Yeh, I agree.

dangerboy

yeah, i agree with that. but they fulfilled their first contract, succeeded in the business, and NOW they don't need a label. some bands never get into that position...

harmless_little_f***

dangerboy wrote:

yeah, i agree with that. but they fulfilled their first contract, succeeded in the business, and NOW they don't need a label. some bands never get into that position...

Let's see how long PJ and Radiohead don't need a label for It hasn't been long for either of them.. and one could argue that PJ have faded into obscurity since leaving Epic.

'Touring band' status is great, but it doesn't spread the word commercially.. that's what the studio and sales are for, imo.

dignin

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

I'm sorry but this is largely bollocks. None of these bands would be anywhere without having once been on giant record labels. Pearl Jam would probably be nowhere near where they are without EPIC.

i dont agree, they probably wouldnt be as popular or as rich....but im sure they would be still making music.

dangerboy

if pj and radiohead release their next studio albums themselves through their websites, their music/singles will be sought out by radio, etc. because of their standing in music. i'm not saying they could have started out this way, but at this point, they could do it.

and many would say they faded into obscurity after yield. having epic didn't help much after that

harmless_little_f***

yield6 wrote:

i dont agree, they may probably wouldnt be as popular or as rich....but im sure they would be still making music.

Yeah but my mum is making music in our garage right now..

dangerboy

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

Yeah but my mum is making music in our garage right now..

after she sells 20 million copies of her first album, and 5 to 10 million of her next two, and a total of 50+ million worldwide after 7 or 8, get back to us

harmless_little_f***

dangerboy wrote:

after she sells 20 million copies of her first album, and 5 to 10 million of her next two, and a total of 50+ million worldwide after 7 or 8, get back to us

Sarcasm radar not working today?

Dude this is not an argument.. you're actually agreeing with me.. My mother will never sell that much because she's not on a label, and consequently never became popular and rich....

The only reason PJ and Radiohead and whoever else can exist as they are is because it was once part of the system to have to be on a label.. They've been there, done that, got rich and popular, and now they can go it alone for a while.. Like I said, let's see how long it lasts.

guertin32

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I just wanted to add that in...

dangerboy

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

Sarcasm radar not working today?

Dude this is not an argument.. you're actually agreeing with me.. My mother will never sell that much because she's not on a label, and consequently never became popular and rich....

The only reason PJ and Radiohead and whoever else can exist as they are is because it was once part of the system to have to be on a label.. They've been there, done that, got rich and popular, and now they can go it alone for a while.. Like I said, let's see how long it lasts.

i think i'm only partially agreeing with you. i agree that they never would have achieved the level of success they have without starting off on a label, but at this point in time, they could do without it.

harmless_little_f***

dangerboy wrote:

i think i'm only partially agreeing with you. i agree that they never would have achieved the level of success they have without starting off on a label, but at this point in time, they could do without it.

They can do without a label until the end of their career, I would bet..... Oh God, I just realised that there's going to be an end... *runs and slits his wrists*

MintGreenGoblin

dangerboy wrote:

and many would say they faded into obscurity after yield. having epic didn't help much after that

Agreed. Many would place that as early as after Vitalogy. Every album since No Code has been hailed as a return to form by fans that left the band when they started to evolve and grow. I think they have enough rabid fans worldwide that they could likely release an album just thru their website and maybe a few select retail locations and it would sell just as well as a major label release.

dangerboy

MintGreenGoblin wrote:

Agreed. Many would place that as early as after Vitalogy. Every album since No Code has been hailed as a return to form by fans that left the band when they started to evolve and grow. I think they have enough rabid fans worldwide that they could likely release an album just thru their website and maybe a few select retail locations and it would sell just as well as a major label release.

i actually had vitalogy in my original post, with "maybe yield" in parenthesis, but i figured if i used vitalogy i'd get hated on....

MintGreenGoblin

dangerboy wrote:

i actually had vitalogy in my original post, with "maybe yield" in parenthesis, but i figured if i used vitalogy i'd get hated on....

LOL...I almost posted exactly how I feel about the fairweather fans who label each album "a return to Ten"...but I figure with a small post count I should maybe keep that opinion to myself for the time being

Got Some If You Need It

Dispatch did just fine succeeding without a record label.

dangerboy

who?

aNiMaL

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

and one could argue that PJ have faded into obscurity since leaving Epic.

Oh, I disagree. I don't think there are any parallels to PJ slipping popularity with the masses and them leaving Epic. There popularity decline, or "fade into obscurity" as you put it, happened long before they left Epic.

Epic certainly helped them launch their incredibly successful career, but they now are in a position to maintain their current fan base the way they see fit. Doing one-off contracts with J Records hasn't hurt anything.

I would discourage the notion of only releasing albums digitally, though. I think that is a bad idea. I really like having a fully mastered, professionally made CD with artwork.

Anon

most of these artists could do it i think. who listens to the shit radio shoves down the public's throat anyway?

Got Some If You Need It

dangerboy wrote:

who?

.......please go to wikipedia immediatly.


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