I'd rather not be with an animal

kenny olav

Some really fucked-up and morbid news this morning:
Pet chimp nearly kills Connecticut woman
5 year old boy eaten by a crocodile in Australia

The chimp story is not the 1st I've heard of it's kind. Not that it's common, but I can't ever imagine owning a pet chimpanzee. There's a reason people use the term "going apeshit". The latter story is heartbreaking of course, and I don't know enough to judge whether or not the kid should have gotten into that situation, but I'm glad the most dangerous animals we have here in Massachusetts are wild turkeys.

Riverrunner

It is a sad story for everyone, but mostly for the woman that is critically injured and Travis. The owner, although saying she loved Travis, should have known that keeping him like a human was not in his best interest. He was 14 years old and was probably tired of being kept away from his own kind. Apparently there had been issues with him before and she ignored them, or gave him Zanax! He was a pubescent male that had to wear a diaper, was kept in a cage at least part of the time, and his primary companionship was a 70 year old human. No wonder he went crazy. He belonged out in the wild where he could whoop it up with other chimps.

I firmly believe that wild animals should not be used in commercials, tv, movies, circuses, or kept as pets. It is wrong for the animals, and innocent bystanders get hurt too. It would be sad enough if the owner got hurt, but at least you could say she "assumed the risk." However, her poor friend......

pjsteelerfan

Kenny Olav wrote:

Some really fucked-up and morbid news this morning:
Pet chimp nearly kills Connecticut woman
5 year old boy eaten by a crocodile in Australia

The chimp story is not the 1st I've heard of it's kind. Not that it's common, but I can't ever imagine owning a pet chimpanzee. There's a reason people use the term "going apeshit". The latter story is heartbreaking of course, and I don't know enough to judge whether or not the kid should have gotten into that situation, but I'm glad the most dangerous animals we have here in Massachusetts are wild turkeys.

Drinking Wild Turkey is dangerous as well

Boston Lou

a fisher cat would fuck up a wild turkey

be careful puker!!

SPEEDY MCCREADY

animals do not belong in fucking cages....

they belong on your dinner table..........

Sian-of-the-dead

I've been absolutely terrified of chimps for years and THAT is exactly why. I don't trust them, I don't think they're 'pets' and IMO they're certainly not cute. *shudders*

I do hope the lady survives though... Poor old gal, she must've been terrified :(

The crocodile incident is simply tragic... but not at all surprising.

Horos

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

animals do not belong in fucking cages....

they belong on your dinner table..........

Have to keep them somewhere before you dispatch them.

I bet chimp tastes great, I know the warm brains are a delicacy in some countries.

I've had gator but not croc.

Sian-of-the-dead

Horos wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

animals do not belong in fucking cages....

they belong on your dinner table..........

Have to keep them somewhere before you dispatch them.

I bet chimp tastes great, I know the warm brains are a delicacy in some countries.

I've had gator but not croc.

I've had both gator and croc... Croc is lush

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Horos wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

animals do not belong in fucking cages....

they belong on your dinner table..........

Have to keep them somewhere before you dispatch them.

I bet chimp tastes great, I know the warm brains are a delicacy in some countries.

I've had gator but not croc.

chimps???

taste just like chicken...

Sian-of-the-dead

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Horos wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

animals do not belong in fucking cages....

they belong on your dinner table..........

Have to keep them somewhere before you dispatch them.

I bet chimp tastes great, I know the warm brains are a delicacy in some countries.

I've had gator but not croc.

chimps???

taste just like chicken...

I bet they taste as revolting as they look :evil:

Lizard

It's awful.

I heard on the new this morning that she has "life altering" injuries to her hands and face!

vedderfan10

In the unedited 911 call...the woman says "He tore off her face!" and later one of the cops says "This guy has no face..." How horrible. I feel sorry for everyone involved in that situation...It was more than horrible for everyone...

Sian-of-the-dead

Vedderfan10 wrote:

In the unedited 911 call...the woman says "He tore off her face!" and later one of the cops says "This guy has no face..." How horrible. I feel sorry for everyone involved in that situation...It was more than horrible for everyone...

:shock:

shit.

PureandEasy

Vedderfan10 wrote:

In the unedited 911 call...the woman says "He tore off her face!" and later one of the cops says "This guy has no face..." How horrible. I feel sorry for everyone involved in that situation...It was more than horrible for everyone...

yeah I heard it this morning, it was bone chilling

so sad

kenny olav

Riverrunner wrote:

It is a sad story for everyone, but mostly for the woman that is critically injured and Travis. The owner, although saying she loved Travis, should have known that keeping him like a human was not in his best interest. He was 14 years old and was probably tired of being kept away from his own kind. Apparently there had been issues with him before and she ignored them, or gave him Zanax! He was a pubescent male that had to wear a diaper, was kept in a cage at least part of the time, and his primary companionship was a 70 year old human. No wonder he went crazy. He belonged out in the wild where he could whoop it up with other chimps.

I firmly believe that wild animals should not be used in commercials, tv, movies, circuses, or kept as pets. It is wrong for the animals, and innocent bystanders get hurt too. It would be sad enough if the owner got hurt, but at least you could say she "assumed the risk." However, her poor friend......

well said. I couldn't agree more.

Heineken Helen

Sian-of-the-dead wrote:

I've had both gator and croc... Croc is lush

ewww... I had croc a couple of times in South Africa and I thought it was a rotten rotten texture... I had to chew and chew for minutes to be able to swallow one piece... I only got it the second time cos the first time was at a wildlife park so it may not be the best of 'restaurants' but the second time was at a pretty well known and upmarket restaurant... so I can really say I dont like crocodile

Heineken Helen

Kenny Olav wrote:

Some really fucked-up and morbid news this morning:
Pet chimp nearly kills Connecticut woman
5 year old boy eaten by a crocodile in Australia

The chimp story is not the 1st I've heard of it's kind. Not that it's common, but I can't ever imagine owning a pet chimpanzee. There's a reason people use the term "going apeshit". The latter story is heartbreaking of course, and I don't know enough to judge whether or not the kid should have gotten into that situation, but I'm glad the most dangerous animals we have here in Massachusetts are wild turkeys.

the poor chimp that's so sad. At an old house I lived in, my nextdoor neighbour was babysitting Lucy the chimp from the zoo who was being handreared after her mom abandoned her... she was just soooo adorable. It was weird when you're holding her and she grabs your finger with her FOOT

Very noble and brave that the family of the boy killed don't want crocs killed though :oops:

Boston Lou

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Sea

Let's keep this thread on topic please. Thanks

so-much-clearer

Sian-of-the-dead wrote:

I do hope the lady survives though... Poor old gal, she must've been terrified :(

She survived but lost her eyes, nose and jaw.

I wouldn't want to survive with that outlook.

Riverrunner

Chimps are really very agressive animals, unlike Orangutans (sp?). I know all this stuff because I watch Animal Planet a lot. For example, in Chimp Eden the sanctuary people do not even go into the enclosure with the adult chimps. It is too dangerous. In fact, it is dangerous when they release another chimp into the enclosure. I saw one episode where a female was released and some of the males chased her around and beat her up some. Eventually they accepted her, but it was rough at first. The first program I saw that opened my eyes as to chimp behavior was one where they showed chimps catching and eating a monkey alive! It was awful. From the reports after this episode with Travis, I think that ripping the face off is one of their fighting tactics. They are very closely related to humans. I guess that explains the aggressive behavior huh?

As to Orangutans on Orangutan Island the sanctuary people come and go as they please as the animals are so docile. However, there is a pecking order and the alpha males do bully others and they sometimes fight. But they obviously are not near as aggressive as Chimps. Neither are gorillas apparently.

So.... the moral of this story is...... if I have to live in a jungle I want to live with Orangutans or Gorillas.

Sian-of-the-dead

So Much Clearer wrote:

Sian-of-the-dead wrote:

I do hope the lady survives though... Poor old gal, she must've been terrified :(

She survived but lost her eyes, nose and jaw.

I wouldn't want to survive with that outlook.

:shock:

Agreed.

Lizard

So Much Clearer wrote:

Sian-of-the-dead wrote:

I do hope the lady survives though... Poor old gal, she must've been terrified :(

She survived but lost her eyes, nose and jaw.

I wouldn't want to survive with that outlook.

Daaaaamn. That is so sad.

soulsinging

Riverrunner wrote:

Chimps are really very agressive animals, unlike Orangutans (sp?). I know all this stuff because I watch Animal Planet a lot. For example, in Chimp Eden the sanctuary people do not even go into the enclosure with the adult chimps. It is too dangerous. In fact, it is dangerous when they release another chimp into the enclosure. I saw one episode where a female was released and some of the males chased her around and beat her up some. Eventually they accepted her, but it was rough at first. The first program I saw that opened my eyes as to chimp behavior was one where they showed chimps catching and eating a monkey alive! It was awful. From the reports after this episode with Travis, I think that ripping the face off is one of their fighting tactics. They are very closely related to humans. I guess that explains the aggressive behavior huh?

As to Orangutans on Orangutan Island the sanctuary people come and go as they please as the animals are so docile. However, there is a pecking order and the alpha males do bully others and they sometimes fight. But they obviously are not near as aggressive as Chimps. Neither are gorillas apparently.

So.... the moral of this story is...... if I have to live in a jungle I want to live with Orangutans or Gorillas.

I don't think it's a coincidence that genetically speaking, our closest relations are chimps and bonobos... the most sex-crazed, violent, and aggressive primates out there. For all our toys and relatively hairless bodies, we're barely removed from our roots there. Compare the way the chimps treat the new arrival to the way the cool kids treat a new arrival in high school.

davidtrios

Riverrunner wrote:

Chimps are really very agressive animals, unlike Orangutans (sp?). I know all this stuff because I watch Animal Planet a lot. For example, in Chimp Eden the sanctuary people do not even go into the enclosure with the adult chimps. It is too dangerous. In fact, it is dangerous when they release another chimp into the enclosure. I saw one episode where a female was released and some of the males chased her around and beat her up some. Eventually they accepted her, but it was rough at first. The first program I saw that opened my eyes as to chimp behavior was one where they showed chimps catching and eating a monkey alive! It was awful. From the reports after this episode with Travis, I think that ripping the face off is one of their fighting tactics. They are very closely related to humans. I guess that explains the aggressive behavior huh?

As to Orangutans on Orangutan Island the sanctuary people come and go as they please as the animals are so docile. However, there is a pecking order and the alpha males do bully others and they sometimes fight. But they obviously are not near as aggressive as Chimps. Neither are gorillas apparently.

So.... the moral of this story is...... if I have to live in a jungle I want to live with Orangutans or Gorillas.

Mamasan23

:lolno:

Dru_Cortez

I know DOG OWNERS
that can't take care of their animals properly:
small spaces, limited exercise, lousy diet.
Why in the world would caring for a wild animal
be any easier?
People need to think a little harder.

Cheers.