Religion of peace...

Drew263Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
edited February 2009 in A Moving Train
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,493645,00.html

The estranged wife of a Muslim television executive feared for her life after filing for divorce last month from her abusive husband, her attorney said — and was found beheaded Thursday in his upstate New York television studio.

Aasiya Z. Hassan, 37, was found dead on Thursday at the offices of Bridges TV in Orchard Park, N.Y., near Buffalo. Her husband, Muzzammil Hassan, 44, has reportedly been charged with second-degree murder.

"She was very much aware of the potential ramification of her filing for divorce might have," said attorney Elizabeth DiPirro, whose law firm, Hogan Willig, represented Aasiya Hassan in the divorce proceeding. "But she wanted to proceed despite the potential for it to erupt."

DiPirro said the couple had "physical confrontations off and on" for their entire eight-year marriage that had recently escalated to death threats. The grounds for divorce were "cruel and inhuman treatment," DiPirro said, referring to mulitple prior incidents of abuse. She declined to elaborate.

"We were worried about the situation becoming volatile," DiPirro said.

The couple had two children, ages 4 and 6, DiPirro said. Muzzammil Hassan also has two children, ages 17 and 18, from a previous marriage.

DiPirro said Aasiya was a "brave" mother who sought a better life for her young children.

"She was a very brave woman who was extremely devoted to her children and had come to this decision after a long, thoughtful process and was determined to change her life for herself and her children," DiPirro said.

Orchard Park Police Chief Andrew Benz told the Buffalo News that Aasiya Hassan had obtained an order or protection on Feb. 6, barring her husband from their home. Police have reportedly still not found the weapon allegedly used in the killing. Benz did not immediately return requests for comment Monday.

"Obviously this is the worst form of domestic violence possible," Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita told the Buffalo News.

Muzzammil Hassan, who founded Bridges TV in November 2004 to counter anti-Islam stereotypes, surrendered to police Thursday. Hassan touted the network as the "first-ever full-time home for American Muslims," according to a press release.

"Every day on television we are barraged by stories of a 'Muslim extremist, militant, terrorist, or insurgent,'" Hassan said in the 2004 release. "But the stories that are missing are the countless stories of Muslim tolerance, progress, diversity, service and excellence that Bridges TV hopes to tell."

Dr. Khalid Qazi, a friend of the couple and president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council of Western New York, said the channel had been under financial strain.

"I cannot believe it — I know them both well," Qazi told the Buffalo News. "I cannot get a handle on this."

Samira Khatib, a friend of the couple, said Aasiya Hassan encouraged her husband to launch the cable channel.

"They were really more than married — they encouraged each other in everything," Khatib told the Buffalo News. "She was such a lovely person."

According to the station's Web site, Aasiya Hassan "came up with the idea" for the network. The Web site, which shows an undated photo of the couple in happier times, identifies her maiden name as Aasiya Zubair.
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  • :roll:
    seriously.


    like this muslim is the ONLY person to have ever killed his spouse in this country....and/or was done for religious reasons....so yes, i simply do not *get* why even bring 'religion of peace' into it, at ALL. i don't think christianity, muslims, jews, etc.....none seem to corner the market on peace, not even close.



    what happened to this woman, wife, mother...is disgusting and tragic....and sadly can happen, does happen, and will probably continue to happen...no matter what 'religion' people practice. how sad for her, and most especially, the children. :(
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Excellent point. No Christian has EVER battered, abused, or murdered his wife in this country. Those damn Muslims, it's disgusting!

    :roll:
  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    I agree with d2d. Their religion is not a factor. The murder is horrific and it also illustrates one of the most important things that people should know about domestic violence. During most situations an abused woman is in the greatest danger immediately after she leaves the abuser, not while she is still living with him.

    This man was not going to be stopped by something as simple as a restraining order. Now their children have effectively lost both parents.
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  • Glad to see domestic abuse is now a political/religious issue...
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  • CB206820CB206820 Posts: 105
    Yeah, it was all the religion's fault.

    It was a HORRIBLE thing, don't get me wrong. But I don't think the religion was the factor...

    Religion of peace.. What about the woman that drowned her kids to protect them from Satan.. There's religion of peace....
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    There must be a ton of closeted Muslims pretending to be Christians if only Muslims batter their spouses and kill them.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Excellent point. No Christian has EVER battered, abused, or murdered his wife in this country.

    :roll:
    Or complete atheist, for that matter.
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  • Drew263Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    That's true, there's shitty people in all walks of life...but y'all let me know the next time a Christian, Jew, or Budhist chops off his old lady's head.

    Domestic violence is horrible, but there's a difference in physical abuse and chopping off heads. Hiding this fact with PC bullshit doesn't change the reality.

    And, I see Christians, Jews, and Budhists saying this all the time....all the time. :roll:

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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Drew263 wrote:
    That's true, there's shitty people in all walks of life...but y'all let me know the next time a Christian, Jew, or Budhist chops off his old lady's head.

    Domestic violence is horrible, but there's a difference in physical abuse and chopping off heads. Hiding this fact with PC bullshit doesn't change the reality.


    i'm pretty sure oj simpson is a christian....he more or less cut nicole's head off
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Drew263 wrote:
    That's true, there's shitty people in all walks of life...but y'all let me know the next time a Christian, Jew, or Budhist chops off his old lady's head.

    Domestic violence is horrible, but there's a difference in physical abuse and chopping off heads. Hiding this fact with PC bullshit doesn't change the reality.

    And, I see Christians, Jews, and Budhists saying this all the time....all the time. :roll:

    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/behead1.jpg

    So it's more theatrical, so what? Is it better than those Mormons that were recently rounded up for raping children endlessly?

    Also, there's no meaningful difference between murdering your wife by bludgeoning her with a tire iron and cutting off her head.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/printeditio ... 9445.story
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,484986,00.html

    Good ole American Christians doing wonderful things... at least this guy left his kids alone and has the balls to face the music in prison.
  • Drew263 wrote:
    That's true, there's shitty people in all walks of life...but y'all let me know the next time a Christian, Jew, or Budhist chops off his old lady's head.

    Domestic violence is horrible, but there's a difference in physical abuse and chopping off heads. Hiding this fact with PC bullshit doesn't change the reality.

    And, I see Christians, Jews, and Budhists saying this all the time....all the time. :roll:

    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/behead1.jpg

    So it's more theatrical, so what? Is it better than those Mormons that were recently rounded up for raping children endlessly?

    Also, there's no meaningful difference between murdering your wife by bludgeoning her with a tire iron and cutting off her head.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/printeditio ... 9445.story
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,484986,00.html

    Good ole American Christians doing wonderful things... at least this guy left his kids alone and has the balls to face the music in prison.
    \

    this is exactly what i was thinking while reading drew's 2nd post.


    so it's a-ok to bludgeon, shoot mercilessly, beat down, stab repeatedly, dismember, etc. your wife - as i do believe many of the christian persuasion have done to their spouses over the years in this country...but mercy, no, only those muslims choose to behead em, and THAT is just wrong?!


    as for 'meaningful difference'.......as the wife, i think i'd take beheading, preferably with a very sharp blade....over bludgeoning. i think it would be a quicker, less painful death. but that's just me. and i don't truly follow any religion, so religious sympathy or PC BS, doesn't come into play.
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    My first thought on the husband's means of killing her was that he acted out of rage and wanted to destroy her attractiveness--hardly a sentiment confined to Muslims, Christians, Jews, or atheists. My next thought was that maybe he couldn't get a gun permit.

    Abusers are a cold-hearted bastards and I'm not being PC by saying that they can come from any religious background.
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  • My first thought on the husband's means of killing her was that he acted out of rage and wanted to destroy her attractiveness--hardly a sentiment confined to Muslims, Christians, Jews, or atheists. My next thought was that maybe he couldn't get a gun permit.

    Abusers are a cold-hearted bastards and I'm not being PC by saying that they can come from any religious background.




    exactly.


    and i just don't quite follow this:

    Drew263 wrote:
    Domestic violence is horrible, but there's a difference in physical abuse and chopping off heads. Hiding this fact with PC bullshit doesn't change the reality.



    who has said there wasn't a difference between domestic abuse and chopping off heads? :? who even compared the two? :roll: seriously, while the beheading IS a result of domestic violence in this case...in OTHER domestic violence cases, bludgeoning, shooting, stabbing, etc. are the result. thus why i question, is it only beheading that is reprehensible here? killing yur spouse by other means is a-ok? somehow i miss what is 'being PC' by not laying this at the feet of religion..but rather at the feet of the domestic abuser/murderer....regardless of their religion. in both, the 'reality' is a dead spouse.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Drew, do you read Debbie Schlussel? You seem to like to incite the same kind of hatred of Muslims she does. I'm sure if you ever meet her you could both enjoy talking about how Islam is a religion of chopping off heads, financial fraud, car accidents, and all that shit over a nice cup of beer.
  • CB206820CB206820 Posts: 105
    Is there a seperate charge for killing with a knife or shooting? Or does that all just fall under murder?

    I thought so too...
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Excellent point. No Christian has EVER battered, abused, or murdered his wife in this country. Those damn Muslims, it's disgusting!

    :roll:

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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    Excellent point. No Christian has EVER battered, abused, or murdered his wife in this country. Those damn Muslims, it's disgusting!

    :roll:

    Don't forget athiests. None of them have ever done anything wrong either.

    :roll:
    Cornnifer beat you to that punch. If I insert atheist, wiccan, agnostic, buddhist, hindu, mormon, taoist, and all other religions named and unnamed, established or yet to be founded... will your PC sensibilities be sated? The point here is that nothing about this crime has anything to do with the guy's religion.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    [ If I insert atheist, wiccan, agnostic, buddhist, hindu, mormon, taoist, and all other religions named and unnamed, established or yet to be founded... will your PC sensibilities be sated? .

    Maybe. ;)
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
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    So... using Drew's logic. Since Hitler was a Christian... therefore, all Christians are like Hitler.
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    That is idiot's logic. Neither one is true... except in the mind of a moron.
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  • know1 wrote:
    Excellent point. No Christian has EVER battered, abused, or murdered his wife in this country. Those damn Muslims, it's disgusting!

    :roll:

    Don't forget athiests. None of them have ever done anything wrong either.

    :roll:
    Cornnifer beat you to that punch. If I insert atheist, wiccan, agnostic, buddhist, hindu, mormon, taoist, and all other religions named and unnamed, established or yet to be founded... will your PC sensibilities be sated? The point here is that nothing about this crime has anything to do with the guy's religion.



    ding, ding, ding...and we have a winner! :mrgreen:
    funny how the OP thought any disagreement with his thread title somehow was 'being PC.' it's got nanda to do with being PC....nada to do with religion...and EVERYthing to do with an individual, a husband in this case, who is a sick fuck and murdered his wife. THERE is the story.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Drew263 wrote:
    That's true, there's shitty people in all walks of life...but y'all let me know the next time a Christian, Jew, or Budhist chops off his old lady's head.

    Domestic violence is horrible, but there's a difference in physical abuse and chopping off heads. Hiding this fact with PC bullshit doesn't change the reality.

    And, I see Christians, Jews, and Budhists saying this all the time....all the time. :roll:

    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/behead1.jpg
    ...
    You asked... here you go:
    http://www.adherents.com/people/pd/Jeffrey_Dahmer.html
    "Dahmer was born into a family of devout members of the Stone-Campbell denomination known as the "church of Christ" or "Churches of Christ." He was an active churchgoer until the age of 5. After that, Dahmer was never again actively religious or a regular churchgoer until after his arrest and imprisonment. After being imprisoned for his crimes, Dahmer sought out the church of his childhood and petitioned to be re-baptized in the Church of Christ. This caused some controversy, but he persisted until he was able receive this rite, which he was apparently sincere in requesting. Shortly after being re-baptized into the Church of Christ, Dahmer was murdered by his cellmate. "
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  • AusticmanAusticman Posts: 1,327
    gvn2fly74 wrote:

    Just making a point that this sort of behaviour isn't just confided the Mulism world
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  • Yeah I understand your point ,but IMO if this guy would have been a christian it would be all over the news.Also are you familiar with the term Honor killing? There have been several cases in the states. One in particular is the two Siaed sisters.Their father shot both of them in the back of his Taxi cab because he did not approve of their boyfriends which were American also he didn't like the fact that they were embracing western culture. This happened in Texas. I also heard the 911 that one of the sisters made while their father was trying to kill them. It's absolutely horrifying. and to make matters worse their uncle (his brother) helped him escape and flee to Egypt.

    This falls under Sharia Law. Which is more prevalent in the Middle east
  • CB206820CB206820 Posts: 105
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    Yeah I understand your point ,but IMO if this guy would have been a christian it would be all over the news.Also are you familiar with the term Honor killing? There have been several cases in the states. One in particular is the two Siaed sisters.Their father shot both of them in the back of his Taxi cab because he did not approve of their boyfriends which were American also he didn't like the fact that they were embracing western culture. This happened in Texas. I also heard the 911 that one of the sisters made while their father was trying to kill them. It's absolutely horrifying. and to make matters worse their uncle (his brother) helped him escape and flee to Egypt.

    This falls under Sharia Law. Which is more prevalent in the Middle east
    Sharia Law is DEFINITLEY more prevalent in the middle East.

    I think if this guy was Christian, he would have just shot his wife. Honour killings NEED to be stopped obviously, and Sharia law taken out of western society, as some of the laws in the Old Testament don't have a place in Western Society.

    Every religion/group/team is 95% good people, and 5% assholes that fuck it up for everybody.
  • Some conservatives are thoughtful people, but some spread hate.
  • Is this really about religion of the way of life for some people in this world? My wife is my bitch and I am the man! Work with some of these people, especially the ladies and ask them what they do with their spare time when they don't work. Having the wife on par of better just won't cut it.

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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    Yeah I understand your point ,but IMO if this guy would have been a christian it would be all over the news.Also are you familiar with the term Honor killing? There have been several cases in the states. One in particular is the two Siaed sisters.Their father shot both of them in the back of his Taxi cab because he did not approve of their boyfriends which were American also he didn't like the fact that they were embracing western culture. This happened in Texas. I also heard the 911 that one of the sisters made while their father was trying to kill them. It's absolutely horrifying. and to make matters worse their uncle (his brother) helped him escape and flee to Egypt.

    This falls under Sharia Law. Which is more prevalent in the Middle east

    I love people that talk about how wrong Sharia law is and how its outdated provisions have no place in our civilized society, then point to the OT to justify denying equal rights to the gay community.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    There's nothing funny about this. Not at all. But I think there is a very dark irony that can be found, here:

    " Muzzammil Hassan, who founded Bridges TV in November 2004 to counter anti-Islam stereotypes..... "
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