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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    There is currently an unprecedented hurricane (likely won't be that strong once it gets there) heading towards Europe and Africa. Climate change.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    PJ_Soul said:
    There is currently an unprecedented hurricane (likely won't be that strong once it gets there) heading towards Europe and Africa. Climate change.
    Very strange.  Weird weather indeed!



    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Seven years after disaster, Japan set to flush one million tons of radioactive Fukushima water into Pacific


    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/seven-years-after-disaster-japan-set-to-flush-one-million-tons-of-radioactive-fukushima-water-into-pacific?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2I-sWwPmSuvxrdIrFIjHYvHq-zkiBiDrWSfGanfM4GePeQ86MYqn997zs#Echobox=1539780043

    think I’ll stay away the Pacific Ocean...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Meltdown99 said:

    Seven years after disaster, Japan set to flush one million tons of radioactive Fukushima water into Pacific


    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/seven-years-after-disaster-japan-set-to-flush-one-million-tons-of-radioactive-fukushima-water-into-pacific?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2I-sWwPmSuvxrdIrFIjHYvHq-zkiBiDrWSfGanfM4GePeQ86MYqn997zs#Echobox=1539780043

    think I’ll stay away the Pacific Ocean...
    Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if they do.  No major media I can find is talking about this so that news is either bullshit, or what will result if it is true will be just plain be the shits. Either way, if too much of the world continues to use the oceans  toilets, that's what we're all going to go down. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited October 2018
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    Seven years after disaster, Japan set to flush one million tons of radioactive Fukushima water into Pacific


    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/seven-years-after-disaster-japan-set-to-flush-one-million-tons-of-radioactive-fukushima-water-into-pacific?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2I-sWwPmSuvxrdIrFIjHYvHq-zkiBiDrWSfGanfM4GePeQ86MYqn997zs#Echobox=1539780043

    think I’ll stay away the Pacific Ocean...
    Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if they do.  No major media I can find is talking about this so that news is either bullshit, or what will result if it is true will be just plain be the shits. Either way, if too much of the world continues to use the oceans  toilets, that's what we're all going to go down. 

    Seven years after disaster, Japan set to flush one million tons of radioactive Fukushima water into Pacific

    Seems to be plenty of news article.  The National Post is a leading national Canadian newspaper.  It's not some gossip rag newspaper.

    Or is it hard to accept that maybe Japan is not the beacon of good environmental stewardship either?  Are you relying on that trash for news media you call  media in the states...
    Post edited by Meltdown99 on
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    Seven years after disaster, Japan set to flush one million tons of radioactive Fukushima water into Pacific


    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/seven-years-after-disaster-japan-set-to-flush-one-million-tons-of-radioactive-fukushima-water-into-pacific?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2I-sWwPmSuvxrdIrFIjHYvHq-zkiBiDrWSfGanfM4GePeQ86MYqn997zs#Echobox=1539780043

    think I’ll stay away the Pacific Ocean...
    Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if they do.  No major media I can find is talking about this so that news is either bullshit, or what will result if it is true will be just plain be the shits. Either way, if too much of the world continues to use the oceans  toilets, that's what we're all going to go down. 

    Seven years after disaster, Japan set to flush one million tons of radioactive Fukushima water into Pacific

    Seems to be plenty of news article.  The National Post is a leading national Canadian newspaper.  It's not some gossip rag newspaper.

    Or is it hard to accept that maybe Japan is not the beacon of good environmental stewardship either?  Are you relying on that trash for news media you call  media in the states...
    I have no difficulty whatsoever accepting the fact that any developed country on this insane planet is capable of doing grossly negligent and dangerous things to the world we live in.  I do have difficulty in accepting the fact that we are that reckless... but I know for sure we often are.

    No, I do no rely on information from major US news media.  For environmental news, I frequently go to The Guardian, realclimate.org, Wildlands Network, Natural Resources Defense Council, seashepherd.org among others.  But no, rarely general mainstream corporate news.

    I'm not sure how reliable Snopes is (although I get a sense they are pretty good) but here is what they say:


    WHAT'S TRUE

    In accordance with a recommendation from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Japanese officials are considering diluting contaminated wastewater from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Plant to a level of radioactivity regarded as safe, then dumping it into the ocean.

    WHAT'S FALSE

    Although they have been weighing such a plan for several years, to date the Japanese government has not announced its implementation.


    So question for you, Meltdown:  Do you believe everything your "leading national Canadian newspaper" or is Canada a leading developed  country incapable of making false news statements?




    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The National Post is a solid newspaper.  I'm not going to debates such silliness anymore...

    If you believe the Japenese are even being even 1/2 truthful, well that's your choice. 
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Meltdown99 said:
    The National Post is a solid newspaper.  I'm not going to debates such silliness anymore...

    If you believe the Japenese are even being even 1/2 truthful, well that's your choice. 
    What the fuck did you read in my posts, Melty?   Have some more coffee my friend!  :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    The National Post is a solid newspaper.  I'm not going to debates such silliness anymore...

    If you believe the Japenese are even being even 1/2 truthful, well that's your choice. 
    What the fuck did you read in my posts, Melty?   Have some more coffee my friend!  :lol:
    Yeah, par for the course :) 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    My fellow Americans: the crisis of climate change can no longer be ignored, and Congress will not act fast enough.  Powerful forces are at work, and by any standard this crisis is an emergency, so following the precedent set by President Trump, I am today declaring the following actions.

    First, the Federal government will immediately seize certain oil and natural gas facilities and lands.
    All refining facilities will be closed. Oil and natural gas lands will be re-purposed for solar and wind power only, and we will offer job retraining for their owners. The Federal government will control these lands in perpetuity to prevent additional damage to the climate. This is a hard step, and we do not take it lightly, by as President Trump seized hundreds of thousands of acres of land under eminent domain, we have followed his precedent to the letter, because the climate emergency demands it.  To prevent any illegal drilling, I am ordering the U.S. military to build appropriate walls, fences, minefields, and other security structures around these lands and facilities. 

    Walls work, in the words of President Trump, and this emergency demands them.  We will also take Federal action to end the lawless behavior of Carbon Sanctuary States. Because of this emergency, Federal power must trumps the rights of the states. It's an *emergency*.  Carbon Sanctuary States endanger us all, and they must be brought to heel.

    -President Warren 
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    The National Post is a solid newspaper.  I'm not going to debates such silliness anymore...

    If you believe the Japenese are even being even 1/2 truthful, well that's your choice. 
    What the fuck did you read in my posts, Melty?   Have some more coffee my friend!  :lol:
    Yeah, par for the course :) 
    You are a real piece of work, but I suspect you know that already...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Meltdown99 said:
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    The National Post is a solid newspaper.  I'm not going to debates such silliness anymore...

    If you believe the Japenese are even being even 1/2 truthful, well that's your choice. 
    What the fuck did you read in my posts, Melty?   Have some more coffee my friend!  :lol:
    Yeah, par for the course :) 
    You are a real piece of work, but I suspect you know that already...
    I was just joking about something there- don't even remember what.  Now look what i started!

    Anyway, drinks on me in the lounge for you both.  Kiss, shake hands, whatever it takes. It's so much more fun to get along and be friends than it is to fight.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    CM189191 said:
    My fellow Americans: the crisis of climate change can no longer be ignored, and Congress will not act fast enough.  Powerful forces are at work, and by any standard this crisis is an emergency, so following the precedent set by President Trump, I am today declaring the following actions.

    First, the Federal government will immediately seize certain oil and natural gas facilities and lands.
    All refining facilities will be closed. Oil and natural gas lands will be re-purposed for solar and wind power only, and we will offer job retraining for their owners. The Federal government will control these lands in perpetuity to prevent additional damage to the climate. This is a hard step, and we do not take it lightly, by as President Trump seized hundreds of thousands of acres of land under eminent domain, we have followed his precedent to the letter, because the climate emergency demands it.  To prevent any illegal drilling, I am ordering the U.S. military to build appropriate walls, fences, minefields, and other security structures around these lands and facilities. 

    Walls work, in the words of President Trump, and this emergency demands them.  We will also take Federal action to end the lawless behavior of Carbon Sanctuary States. Because of this emergency, Federal power must trumps the rights of the states. It's an *emergency*.  Carbon Sanctuary States endanger us all, and they must be brought to heel.

    -President Warren 
    Dear President Liz,

    Thank you so much for your efforts to lessen the severity of global warming.  Off course, as we know, lessening it's effects is all we have left to hope for.  It can't be stopped in our life time or our children's lifetime. 

    But as you know, lessening the effects of global warming will be difficult.  Building solar panels, hybrid and/or electric cars, etc. takes energy and requires destructive mining.  We will have to use oil for a time and continue mining in order to build these things.  And those things will only last so long, so more will have to be manufactured.  Those are sacrifices to the planet we'll have to live with. 

    I would suggest that to lessen those sacrifices, each of would do well to strive to live more simply, share what we can, live closer to work, walk more, have more no-drive days, ride share, use public transit, reduce our energy consumption more, buy and use the most durable goods, eat less meat, and most of all, reproduce at lower rates.  There is no way 7.6 billion people can live the way the average first-world person does.  Not even with solar panels and electric cars.  That is just not feasible. 

    Good luck to us all!

    Brian
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited January 2019
    Meltdown99 said:
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    The National Post is a solid newspaper.  I'm not going to debates such silliness anymore...

    If you believe the Japenese are even being even 1/2 truthful, well that's your choice. 
    What the fuck did you read in my posts, Melty?   Have some more coffee my friend!  :lol:
    Yeah, par for the course :) 
    You are a real piece of work, but I suspect you know that already...
    I guess you missed the smiling and laughing emojis, which typically indicate jokes, but your reaction isn’t surprising. 
     
    Maybe you could just chill out sometimes, instead of jumping down people’s throats. 
    Post edited by oftenreading on
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    The National Post is a solid newspaper.  I'm not going to debates such silliness anymore...

    If you believe the Japenese are even being even 1/2 truthful, well that's your choice. 
    What the fuck did you read in my posts, Melty?   Have some more coffee my friend!  :lol:
    Yeah, par for the course :) 
    You are a real piece of work, but I suspect you know that already...
    I guess you missed the smiling and laughing emojis, which typically indicate jokes, but your reaction isn’t surprising. 
     
    Maybe you could just chill out sometimes, instead of jumping down people’s throats. 
    Priceless!!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    We need some Global Moving Train Cooling.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    brianlux said:
    We need some Global Moving Train Cooling.

    Like ice cubes in the wine, you mean?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited January 2019
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    We need some Global Moving Train Cooling.

    Like ice cubes in the wine, you mean?
    LOL! 

    In white wine, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe. 

    In red wine?  Ummm, if you happen to run into Mr. McGruff, word has it that the conductor would like to have a word with him about that.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,405
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    I have for years had this theory that the human race is subconsciously suicidal.  But of course that theory could be refuted with the counter argument that as a species, we are generally lazy, selfish, short sighted and stupid.  Either way, we're fucked.

    But I still advocate for doing what makes sense no matter what the outcome.  Feel good about and take more no-drive days, recycle everything possible, use less, buy the most durable product you can find, eat less (or no) meat, boycott all sea food, support environmentally conscious businesses, lower the thermostat in the winter, raise it in the summer, take a "staycation" instead of flying all over the world, participate in a beach clean up day.   There are so many things each person can do to make a difference. 
    Your theory might correct...

    Just look at all the past and current wars there have been.  Just look at 9/11, I believe the US had a surge in people who enlisted, to voluntarily go off to war.  That seems suicidal.
    Interesting notion- enlisting to go to war as a suicidal tendency.  What a shitty way to go.
    DBC or SBC

    Death By Cop or Suicide By Cop

    When you die, yep you guessed it, death by a cop.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,405
    Anybody ever read this article?

    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

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