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My first listen six years - Riot Act

Pearl SamPearl Sam Posts: 88
edited 2009 13 in The Porch
I gave the full record a listen yesterday during a 3-hour road trip. Until yesterday, I didn't realize how good Riot Act was. It is truly a solid record - perhaps better than Binaural and Avocado. But, it's still slightly lesser than the first five, which were great, great records.

So, while it's not a great, great record, Riot Act borders on greatness; and it's definitely a very solid work. That is quite different than how I felt before yesterday, when I believed Riot Act was the band's weakest work to date.
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  • Pearl SamPearl Sam Posts: 88
    I think there exists a positive relationship between greatness of the PJ records and the producer. Don't think I haven't noticed who will be producing the upcoming release. And, don't think I don't know the album in which he last worked a full length. Hint: it was a great, great record (in my opinion Yield is overwhelmingly PJ's best).
  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Are you going to pick up the re-release?

    viewtopic.php?f=4&t=92484#p2172756
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  • tenforthewintenforthewin Posts: 177
    I haven't been around for a Brendan O'brien produced record yet. How heavily involved was O'brien as producer? Is he the type of producer that holds the bands hand and has a lot of input through the entire process, or is he just kinda there to turn knobs and keep them motivated? I guess what I'm asking is, will having O'brien back as producer have a ton of impact on the music itself, or just the overal sound of the album sonically? What think you?
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  • Pearl SamPearl Sam Posts: 88
    fanch75 wrote:
    Are you going to pick up the re-release?

    viewtopic.php?f=4&t=92484#p2172756

    I've already ordered the super deluxe edition - I'm such a sucker hoping for some autographs. My wife has told me if I don't get some autographs that she is gonna call up Ten Club and rip into them. :roll:
  • Pearl SamPearl Sam Posts: 88
    tenforthewin wrote:
    I haven't been around for a Brendan O'brien produced record yet. How heavily involved was O'brien as producer? Is he the type of producer that holds the bands hand and has a lot of input through the entire process, or is he just kinda there to turn knobs and keep them motivated? I guess what I'm asking is, will having O'brien back as producer have a ton of impact on the music itself, or just the overal sound of the album sonically? What think you?

    He will be, and has been, more involved than any other PJ producer. The reason? Because PJ trusts him, respects him, etc. He's not afraid to stand up to Ed and tell him something sucks.

    As a result, in my opinion, it's almost as if he's another member of the band. So, while others may disagree, I believe Brendan has a huge musical impact on the contents/material/body of the record.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,808
    ya know...thats a pretty good idea....

    in six years i might listen to riot act....

    then again.....i might not.....
    Take me piece by piece.....
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  • ChrisChris Posts: 116
    You've inspired my firs Riot Act listen in years. Wi,ll feedback my feelings...
  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    fanch75 wrote:
    Are you going to pick up the re-release?

    viewtopic.php?f=4&t=92484#p2172756

    the hell is this?
  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    I'll save you some of your time today. It still sucks. That's all.
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  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    If you were to say the words "Riot Act" and "Disappointment", it would be like saying the same thing.

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  • Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,350
    It's just a really flat listless album, IMO, other than "Can't Keep."
    "They said ... timing was everything
    made him ... want to be everywhere
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  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    some people will just never understand riot act. just like i don't understand avocado... im glad you gave it another chance and are starting to see the light. welcome to a whole new life.
    Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    saustin wrote:
    I gave the full record a listen yesterday during a 3-hour road trip. Until yesterday, I didn't realize how good Riot Act was. It is truly a solid record - perhaps better than Binaural and Avocado. But, it's still slightly lesser than the first five, which were great, great records.

    So, while it's not a great, great record, Riot Act borders on greatness; and it's definitely a very solid work. That is quite different than how I felt before yesterday, when I believed Riot Act was the band's weakest work to date.

    If you say that Riot Act borders on greatness but isn't great, and it's better than Binaural and s/t, does that mean you're saying PJ has released 3 straight albums that aren't great? BLASPHEMY!
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    i did the same thing a few days ago & popped in my cd player while driving to Austin. i skipped over a couple of songs, but finished the album feeling like my opinion on this record had changed a bit. i think i'm one of the few people that likes "Help, Help"---"Green Disease" sounds amazing & i found myself thoroughly rocking out to "1/2 Full".
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  • Pearl SamPearl Sam Posts: 88
    Game Show Host wrote:
    It's just a really flat listless album, IMO, other than "Can't Keep."

    Listless? LMAO. Is "All or None" listless? You've got to be kidding me. Some of the songs are emotionally neutrual, or "flat" I guess. But, that record if far from listless - it is very, very purposeful. I swear to God I question the taste of some of the PJ fans.
  • Pearl SamPearl Sam Posts: 88
    soulsinging wrote:
    saustin wrote:
    I gave the full record a listen yesterday during a 3-hour road trip. Until yesterday, I didn't realize how good Riot Act was. It is truly a solid record - perhaps better than Binaural and Avocado. But, it's still slightly lesser than the first five, which were great, great records.

    So, while it's not a great, great record, Riot Act borders on greatness; and it's definitely a very solid work. That is quite different than how I felt before yesterday, when I believed Riot Act was the band's weakest work to date.

    If you say that Riot Act borders on greatness but isn't great, and it's better than Binaural and s/t, does that mean you're saying PJ has released 3 straight albums that aren't great? BLASPHEMY!

    Yep that's what I'm saying. Thanks for taking the time to read into that.

    No, none of the last 3 are great albums. They are good to very good and better than 90% of what is out there today. All 3 have great moments, but the last truly "great" album was Yield. I think most critics agree. Again, objectively speaking, (which means without emotion) the last 3 releases are good records. But, none are great. I hope to see another great record in 2009.

    The good news is that PJ have never released a bad of average record.
  • Something_MoreSomething_More Posts: 57
    Riot Act is so, so, so good! It's emotionally heavy, and the lyrics are awesome.
    Come ON people! :)

    Eh, to each his own... but I think it's great to give things another try.
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  • deadmosquitodeadmosquito Posts: 729
    riot act = PJ's best record. or second-best, just after Vs. i can never decide.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    saustin wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:
    saustin wrote:
    I gave the full record a listen yesterday during a 3-hour road trip. Until yesterday, I didn't realize how good Riot Act was. It is truly a solid record - perhaps better than Binaural and Avocado. But, it's still slightly lesser than the first five, which were great, great records.

    So, while it's not a great, great record, Riot Act borders on greatness; and it's definitely a very solid work. That is quite different than how I felt before yesterday, when I believed Riot Act was the band's weakest work to date.

    If you say that Riot Act borders on greatness but isn't great, and it's better than Binaural and s/t, does that mean you're saying PJ has released 3 straight albums that aren't great? BLASPHEMY!

    Yep that's what I'm saying. Thanks for taking the time to read into that.

    No, none of the last 3 are great albums. They are good to very good and better than 90% of what is out there today. All 3 have great moments, but the last truly "great" album was Yield. I think most critics agree. Again, objectively speaking, (which means without emotion) the last 3 releases are good records. But, none are great. I hope to see another great record in 2009.

    The good news is that PJ have never released a bad of average record.

    I mostly agree with you, I was trying to parody those who truly feel that way. Kinda undersold it a bit.

    Though I would say Riot Act is actually a pretty bad album, average at best. s/t is good, Binaural is almost great.
  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    for me it is a great album
    pretty much every album i love now and i consider great starts off as just good. keep listening
    its just like me..gettin better with age.. ;)

    (i do get the joke though :lol: )
  • Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,350
    saustin wrote:
    Game Show Host wrote:
    It's just a really flat listless album, IMO, other than "Can't Keep."

    Listless? LMAO. Is "All or None" listless? You've got to be kidding me. Some of the songs are emotionally neutrual, or "flat" I guess. But, that record if far from listless - it is very, very purposeful. I swear to God I question the taste of some of the PJ fans.

    Yes. Listless. I enjoy "All or None," but collectively the album feels dull and uninspired when compared to the rest of the catalog.
    "They said ... timing was everything
    made him ... want to be everywhere
    there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    It's a scientific fact that Riot Act isn't better than Binaural.
  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    DewieCox wrote:
    It's a scientific fact that Riot Act isn't better than Binaural.

    actually as u see x is riot act when binaural is y you have x is the greater sum creating the parabola!!
    what do u think tool was singing about?!!

    Parabola.jpg
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    CC279494 wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    It's a scientific fact that Riot Act isn't better than Binaural.

    actually as u see x is riot act when binaural is y you have x is the greater sum creating the parabola!!
    what do u think tool was singing about?!!

    Parabola.jpg

    But you fail to take into consideration, McCready's 3rd law of awesomeness, which counteracts x in a subversive manner, rendering it useless against the powers of such tunage as Sleight of Hand, Rival, and Grievance.

    I don't hate Riot Act, I just think it coulda had a bit more life. I think Binaural has only slightly better songs, but the production and the overall sound puts it quite a ways over RA. But, til recently I thought Binaural was better than Vitalogy.
  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    DewieCox wrote:
    CC279494 wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    It's a scientific fact that Riot Act isn't better than Binaural.

    actually as u see x is riot act when binaural is y you have x is the greater sum creating the parabola!!
    what do u think tool was singing about?!!

    Parabola.jpg

    But you fail to take into consideration, McCready's 3rd law of awesomeness, which counteracts x in a subversive manner, rendering it useless against the powers of such tunage as Sleight of Hand, Rival, and Grievance.

    I don't hate Riot Act, I just think it coulda had a bit more life. I think Binaural has only slightly better songs, but the production and the overall sound puts it quite a ways over RA. But, til recently I thought Binaural was better than Vitalogy.

    Professor Douglas McCready??618_DOUG-MCCREADY.jpg

    He WROTE the 3rd law of awesomeness!! i think he would know...
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,069
    mfc2006 wrote:
    i think i'm one of the few people that likes "Help, Help"---"Green Disease" sounds amazing & i found myself thoroughly rocking out to "1/2 Full".
    Not even close!!! I LOVE those songs!!!! :D
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    Love me some Riot Act
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    LukinFan wrote:
    mfc2006 wrote:
    i think i'm one of the few people that likes "Help, Help"---"Green Disease" sounds amazing & i found myself thoroughly rocking out to "1/2 Full".
    Not even close!!! I LOVE those songs!!!! :D

    yea me too...ill be the guy i hate and just say it
    if u dont like this album i dont like u :D
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    LukinFan wrote:
    mfc2006 wrote:
    i think i'm one of the few people that likes "Help, Help"---"Green Disease" sounds amazing & i found myself thoroughly rocking out to "1/2 Full".
    Not even close!!! I LOVE those songs!!!! :D

    I just meant that not many people seem to like "Help, Help" for some reason. i think it's an awesome song!! 8-)
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  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    soulsinging wrote:
    Though I would say Riot Act is actually a pretty bad album, average at best. s/t is good, Binaural is almost great.

    Spot on.

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