Gang Violence...
haffajappa
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I live in East Side LA.
or... wait, no i don't...
I live in a small-to-average size city East of Vancouver in the Fraser Valley. Not only that, I live in the Northern part of this city, in an area by the Fraser River that USED to be classified as the quiet life. Apart from it being a borderline suburbia, it was pretty much encompassed by either countryside farms or forest, with the river bordering one side and the freeway bordering the other.
That was until little by little you'd drive by development proposals on what-used-to-be large acreage and within months townhouse after townhouse complex started to spring up and the population has grown. With population comes more development, with more development more population, and with more population more trouble. I used to just get frustrated over the amount of nature being destroyed in the name of a bunch of people who move into this area with no appreciation for what it used to be... my friends and i have lived here all our lives and we've all noticed the change...
But now its more than just the general development of what used to be such a nice and pretty and quiet area... the recent gang violence has moved into my area with a driveby shooting on Sunday at one of our local stores... it was done with an automatic so it wasn't contained at all... luckily no one else got injured (only parked cars got bullet holes). To paint the picture about how close to home it is hitting, I walk my dog to that store 3 or 4 times a week, tie her up outside and go to get groceries... I leave her in the front (where the shots were fired). My mom arrived there 5 minutes after it happened with the intention to do that and get groceries...
Think i'm over-reacting? I just recieved texts that 2 more shootings in my area happened since last night...
So far there have been 6 shootings (4 fatal) in the last WEEK alone in the lower mainland (the area of BC below the north shore mountains and between the coast and the foothills of the Rocky Mountains).
That doesn't include one of the worst murders in present BC history a year ago when 6 people were killed in an apartment near my university... 2 of them were innocent bystanders and got tortured and killed.
10 years ago we apparently had 10 gangs, now we have over 100.
So just add this to BC's homeless and drug problem and continue to ignore it all in the wake of the olympics... why deal with real issues when we've got olympic villages to fund?
Our government must go seeking irony... we'll put people on the streets and then scramble to find a place to hide them when the world comes, and now we'll probably spend more on olympic security for 2 weeks than we will on the violence problem in BC that has been going on for over a year and a half...
Sorry for the rant.
or... wait, no i don't...
I live in a small-to-average size city East of Vancouver in the Fraser Valley. Not only that, I live in the Northern part of this city, in an area by the Fraser River that USED to be classified as the quiet life. Apart from it being a borderline suburbia, it was pretty much encompassed by either countryside farms or forest, with the river bordering one side and the freeway bordering the other.
That was until little by little you'd drive by development proposals on what-used-to-be large acreage and within months townhouse after townhouse complex started to spring up and the population has grown. With population comes more development, with more development more population, and with more population more trouble. I used to just get frustrated over the amount of nature being destroyed in the name of a bunch of people who move into this area with no appreciation for what it used to be... my friends and i have lived here all our lives and we've all noticed the change...
But now its more than just the general development of what used to be such a nice and pretty and quiet area... the recent gang violence has moved into my area with a driveby shooting on Sunday at one of our local stores... it was done with an automatic so it wasn't contained at all... luckily no one else got injured (only parked cars got bullet holes). To paint the picture about how close to home it is hitting, I walk my dog to that store 3 or 4 times a week, tie her up outside and go to get groceries... I leave her in the front (where the shots were fired). My mom arrived there 5 minutes after it happened with the intention to do that and get groceries...
Think i'm over-reacting? I just recieved texts that 2 more shootings in my area happened since last night...
So far there have been 6 shootings (4 fatal) in the last WEEK alone in the lower mainland (the area of BC below the north shore mountains and between the coast and the foothills of the Rocky Mountains).
That doesn't include one of the worst murders in present BC history a year ago when 6 people were killed in an apartment near my university... 2 of them were innocent bystanders and got tortured and killed.
10 years ago we apparently had 10 gangs, now we have over 100.
So just add this to BC's homeless and drug problem and continue to ignore it all in the wake of the olympics... why deal with real issues when we've got olympic villages to fund?
Our government must go seeking irony... we'll put people on the streets and then scramble to find a place to hide them when the world comes, and now we'll probably spend more on olympic security for 2 weeks than we will on the violence problem in BC that has been going on for over a year and a half...
Sorry for the rant.
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Its basically an eye for eye mentality I guess, they are all retaliatory killings. It will stop soon.
dont get me wrong im not trying to underscore the significance but it could be far, far worse.
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You are way off base with your homeless assessment as well, our new mayor is doing loads for the homeless and DTES, they have bought like 5 of the run down hotels and are making them low income housing for people as long as they go to NA or AA meetings, you can rent a room for 50 bucks a week in one of these places now, they have also opened a whole crapload of new shelters for the homeless this winter so they don't freeze to death. They have a 13 person team driving around picking them up off the streets and driving them to the closest shelters, fuck they even have kennels for the people with animals. I fail to see how this is just shoving them under the rug.
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you can make fun of me for living in the sticks as much as you want, but there is usually a reason people live out in the country, and that's to not have to live in the same way that an urban center does.
and the homeless/drug thing was from the bad mood I was in today with Gordon Campbell, not Robertson... there IS a homeless problem not only in Vancouver ...shipping homeless people out my way isn't what I call a great solution.
you just have a love affair with the olympics, haha.
And people who are on income assistance in the Downtown East Side have their rent paid by the government. Explain to me why the government allowed rents to get out of control... I used to work down there it was obscene what the governments (NDP included) let the landlords get away with...Also, many mentally ill people do not want to be living in a room with restrictions and conditions - paranoid people just don't like that sort of thing. And some people just want to be homeless...The homeless problem in Vancouver/Victoria just won't ever go away...we live in a mild climate with good drugs. If you're going to be homeless, why live on the street in a very cold or very warm climate...
Yeah, I worked down there for three years...and only now (ten years later) Victoria is experiencing that type of homelessness...and drugs...and you know the guns are next...At least Victoria is still relatively small, Vancouver just got too big too fast...
Developers move into outlying areas and just build build build...but no infrastruction improvements or funds from the developers are collected (at least not anywhere near the $$ required)...DTE, I am in complete agreement with you on that issue...
When I was in Whistler, our front desk guy said to watch out from people from Surrey. They like to start fights on the weekends
Surrey is far safer then downtown Seattle at 3 am. I had a gun pulled on me for no reason in downtown Seattle at 2:30 am after going to a show at studio 7
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plus my bf lives in surrey and so i hafto bus through on the bad route since its in between where i go to school and where he lives...
hey vf, i heard that Vic PD are trying to organize stuff because theyt hink that the gang violence is gonna start up on the island soon too
everyone around here is getting paranoid which is annoying as well...
ahhh!!
Stay safe Steph.
I guess they have a right to be, its kind of crazy for Langley. My Dad even mentioned it on the phone today.
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i sent them out your way cos we needed a break.
So far in Victoria, they just shove homeless people under buses....people are sick...