how the fuck do i owe taxes?

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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984


    i like how it leaves a lot of choice in the hands of the taxpayer.


    not liking how my tax dollars are spent I used to choose to owe at the end of the year.I didn't like the idea of overpaying throughout the year and letting the government get a free loan.


    think paying exactly what you owe would be a better system.
  • Commy wrote:


    i like how it leaves a lot of choice in the hands of the taxpayer.


    not liking how my tax dollars are spent I used to choose to owe at the end of the year.I didn't like the idea of overpaying throughout the year and letting the government get a free loan.


    think paying exactly what you owe would be a better system.


    you don't HAVE to underpay....nor overpay....YOU choose your limits. i personally like that there is CHOICE, b/c many, many different people have different circumstances as to how and when they want their taxes taken out of their income yearly. i personally am glad we have options. many, many people make SURE they don't get refunds, maybe even owe...so they get the 'interest-free loan' from the government instead of vice-versa. other people like to get a refund, a lump sum, rather than a couple extra dollars each week, even if it does mean an interest-free loan to the govt. other people, such as myself, like to basically pay in what they owe, but err on the side of a small refund to cover extraneous extra income accumulated outside of regular wages. i know i did some financial maneuvers december 30th of last year.....which got me extra cash in hand, and will garner a nice refund too. ALL are options, and i like having options...even within paying my taxes. that's all. you don't like it...whateva. however, our sytem IS set up so you can pay exactly what you owe....but you can also choose to over or underpay as well....and come april 15th, even it all out. unless of course you get an extension...and can drag it out even longer. ;)
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  • Heatherj43Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    Travelar wrote:
    Just like last year I owe the state and get a refund fro the federalis. Almost even, but not quite there.
    This is common. I tell everyone to claim one less exemption on state than fed thru the year.
    Save room for dessert!
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646

    hey, opinions are like assholes.......;)


    i like our system. if others don't, whatever.

    it's just my opinion... i never aimed to convert you.

    you like your system.. and i dont... but it's not 'whatever'.

    you always do this.... you say "yeah , whatever" but then use your next 2 paragraphs to tell me why i should like your system.

    point is... i dont like it... it sounds like a shit system.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman wrote:

    hey, opinions are like assholes.......;)


    i like our system. if others don't, whatever.

    it's just my opinion... i never aimed to convert you.

    you like your system.. and i dont... but it's not 'whatever'.

    you always do this.... you say "yeah , whatever" but then use your next 2 paragraphs to tell me why i should like your system.



    point is... i dont like it... it sounds like a shit system.


    i don't tell you why you should like our system...i further tell why *I* like our system. that's all. so yes, it is 'whatever' to me...i don't care if you don't like our system, it has no bearing on my life..or on yours really, haha.....if you haven't noticed, i just like to have conversation. if actually sharing my reasons for liking it is in some way inferred by you to mean i am trying to convince you to like it, well..tis your inference and not my intent. also why i started off with 'opinions are like assholes'....cause i realize, we're simply sharing opinions. i wasn't aiming to conver you either. at most, i was explaining some of it. don't care....cool.


    so yes....whaaattteeeevvvvvveeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr....:P
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    dunkman wrote:

    hey, opinions are like assholes.......;)


    i like our system. if others don't, whatever.

    it's just my opinion... i never aimed to convert you.

    you like your system.. and i dont... but it's not 'whatever'.

    you always do this.... you say "yeah , whatever" but then use your next 2 paragraphs to tell me why i should like your system.



    point is... i dont like it... it sounds like a shit system.


    i don't tell you why you should like our system...i further tell why *I* like our system. that's all. so yes, it is 'whatever' to me...i don't care if you don't like our system, it has no bearing on my life..or on yours really, haha.....if you haven't noticed, i just like to have conversation. if actually sharing my reasons for liking it is in some way inferred by you to mean i am trying to convince you to like it, well..tis your inference and not my intent. also why i started off with 'opinions are like assholes'....cause i realize, we're simply sharing opinions. i wasn't aiming to conver you either. at most, i was explaining some of it. don't care....cool.


    so yes....whaaattteeeevvvvvveeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr....:P

    so in short... its a shit system that only about 2 people on this thread know how to work it correctly.

    brilliant :|
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman wrote:
    so in short... its a shit system that only about 2 people on this thread know how to work it correctly.

    brilliant :|


    actually seems to me only about 2 or 3 people in this thread had 'issues' with the system....and as many have explained, more than likely, they simply did not check their tax elections at work. simple as. everything else, related to life changes - marriage, school - and/or being independently employed. so yea...i don't see too many problems. what i see is people bitchin' when they owe tax....ain't nutthin' new there....tis the american way. ;)

    funny....i offer my opinion and you construe it to mean that i am trying to tell you how to think about it....but you judge the whole system by a few posts on a message board and declare it shit. who is trying to offer their opinion as fact? :P
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    funny....i offer my opinion and you construe it to mean that i am trying to tell you how to think about it....but you judge the whole system by a few posts on a message board and declare it shit. who is trying to offer their opinion as fact? :P


    me.

    i and everyone else i know in the UK don't have any of this shitty hassle when it comes to Tax... and so the fact is.. the whole system over there is shit as even 2 or 3 people having a problem out of perhaps 10 or 12 people on this thread alone means its a flawed system that is open for people to abuse or to completely mis-understand.

    thats not even my opinion anymore... its fact.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman wrote:
    funny....i offer my opinion and you construe it to mean that i am trying to tell you how to think about it....but you judge the whole system by a few posts on a message board and declare it shit. who is trying to offer their opinion as fact? :P


    me.

    i and everyone else i know in the UK don't have any of this shitty hassle when it comes to Tax... and so the fact is.. the whole system over there is shit as even 2 or 3 people having a problem out of perhaps 10 or 12 people on this thread alone means its a flawed system that is open for people to abuse or to completely mis-understand.

    thats not even my opinion anymore... its fact.


    sorry, i disagree. the reason there are 'hassle's is b/c there are options. i've said as much from my first post. i LIKE options. if i have a lot of extra income outside my regular wage, instead of paying quarterly estimated payments, or being hit with a large tax bill at the end of the year, i can choose to have more deducted from my biweekly check. i like that. or, if i know i will have a lot of deductions a given year due to tuition costs or some other life change, i can elect to have less taken out of my paycheck so as to not get a refund. or, perhaps i LIKE getting a refund b/c i am shit at saving, so i can choose to have more deducted from my pay each week so as i do get a refund. or, perhaps this year i take on my nephew as a dependent, even tho he is not my child, i can elect to claim him on my taxes, thus a bigger reduction, and thus i may want to alter my tax deductions out of my pay. just a few examples out of countless others....and why i like how there is much control in the hands of the individual of how and when they pay their federal income tax. you think its shit...great.....others think it's shit...great.....i don't think it's shit, many others do not as well...so no, your opinion is not fact.
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