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The VFC group couldn't take down Bush......

fragileblakefragileblake Posts: 718
edited February 2009 in The Porch
But can they take down Ticketmaster and Live Nation?

Bruce Springsteen has gotten into it with Ticketmaster this week, heres a good synopsis of the situation: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_b ... er-to.html

This even made my local news yesterday. The upcoming Ticketmaster/Live Nation merger will also keep concert ticketing in the news for the weeks to come.

Is there an opportunity here for bands and the fans that support them to battle against needless "convenience charges"? Imagine if the VFC group: Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, REM, Death Cab for Cutie and others (maybe Uncle Neil would get involved) did an organized Non-Ticketmaster/Live Nation tour.

I know some of the comments this thread will get: Its hopeless, been tried before etc. We all know that most venues still have exclusive agreements with ticketmaster but ComcastTix and other agencies are more common now than they were in the mid 90's, I know many of them charge fees as well, but could they afford to lose out on all that potential revenue?

With the internet being so ubiquitous these bands may even be able to do their own ticketing and actually pull it off. How sweet would this be?
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    URthekeyURthekey Posts: 1,641
    TM really is such bullshit. I'm glad 10C does their own ticketing for at least a percentage of the seats.

    I've been 'rerouted' to their 'affiliate' less than a minute after tickets went on sale - and then tickets are astronomically priced. If thats not scalping I don't know what is. I hope now that someone a little more mainstream then PJ is all pissed about it, the feds will really look into it and see how fans are getting ripped off.
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    TravelarTravelar Kalamazoo, USA Posts: 3,359
    I fucking hate TM.... with a passion these days. If there was a non-TM tour, I would be sooo happy. I got screwed on Springsteen tix too. I'm glad he's noticing things.
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,948
    Why can't each & every stadium, forum, theatre etc.. sell their own tickets directly from their website, from their own place directly to their own customers? .. instead of dealing with Ticketmaster?
    You know how many new jobs will be created, Obama? Yes, it will cost each & every place alot of money for added server bandwidth when tickets go on sale etc.. but imo, will make things better. There has been so many problems with Ticketmaster, enough is enough.

    Now with LiveNation merging with Ticketmaster, I can't wait now to purchase local show tickets to events then getting transfered to TicketsNow for a higher purchase! :roll:
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    100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 8,572
    demetrios wrote:
    Why can't each & every stadium, forum, theatre etc.. sell their own tickets directly from their website, from their own place directly to their own customers? .. instead of dealing with Ticketmaster?

    Ticketmaster essentially has nearly all venues in North America locked into ticketing contracts,...
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,948
    100 Pacer wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    Why can't each & every stadium, forum, theatre etc.. sell their own tickets directly from their website, from their own place directly to their own customers? .. instead of dealing with Ticketmaster?

    Ticketmaster essentially has nearly all venues in North America locked into ticketing contracts,...

    How long are their contracts? I would recommend each & everyone, when their contract expires with Ticketmaster, to not sign up ever again. They can do better! They know they can do better. And business .. will be better. For fans, for the economy, for everybody!
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    100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 8,572
    demetrios wrote:
    100 Pacer wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    Why can't each & every stadium, forum, theatre etc.. sell their own tickets directly from their website, from their own place directly to their own customers? .. instead of dealing with Ticketmaster?

    Ticketmaster essentially has nearly all venues in North America locked into ticketing contracts,...

    How long are their contracts?

    quite obsene long-term contracts,...
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,948
    100 Pacer wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    100 Pacer wrote:
    Ticketmaster essentially has nearly all venues in North America locked into ticketing contracts,...

    How long are their contracts?

    quite obsene long-term contracts,...

    d'oh! this is one reason why our economy is fucked!!!
    obsene long term contracts!! :evil:

    then there's long-term relationships (not being married i mean)! that's another story!!!
    lol
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