Why is Christmas so bad?

angie76

Heineken Helen wrote:

it's not 'lies' :eek: its 'magic'. Let the kids have some bloody magic in their lives... why do we need to introduce them to reality so early??? That's bullshit... I personally LOVED the whole magic of santa thing... and I don't know ONE person who was fucked up by learning the truth. It's doing NO harm! :mad: there! Rant over!

ha..yeah I agree..I wasn't really mad about finding out there wasn't a Santa. I understood it's what parents say to kids..it kind of makes xmas for kids. Im a pretty well adjusted adult. well sort of

ajedigecko

eyedclaar wrote:

Did you just call me fat???

I kid, I kid

glad you finished with "i kid".....i was beginning to think you evolved into XX.

reversedarwinism

Heineken Helen wrote:

it's not 'lies' :eek: its 'magic'. Let the kids have some bloody magic in their lives... why do we need to introduce them to reality so early??? That's bullshit... I personally LOVED the whole magic of santa thing... and I don't know ONE person who was fucked up by learning the truth. It's doing NO harm! :mad: there! Rant over!

I used to say it was an introduction to future lies. This guy watches over you and judges you. If your good you get a prize... sounds like what most christians think of God. Now I just think, why do we have to make some shit up to get kids into christmas? The presents, the family, the time off from school, the pecan pie, the celebration of Jesus's birth (if you like) is plenty. There is nothing about kids beliving in "magic" that makes it anymore special or cute. If they didn't believe in it, it'd still be a very special time of the year.

ajedigecko

reversedarwinism wrote:

I used to say it was an introduction to future lies. This guy watches over you and judges you. If your good you get a prize... sounds like what most christians think of God. Now I just think, why do we have to make some shit up to get kids into christmas? The presents, the family, the time off from school, the pecan pie, the celebration of Jesus's birth (if you like) is plenty. There is nothing about kids beliving in "magic" that makes it anymore special or cute. If they didn't believe in it, it'd still be a very special time of the year.

for me personally, my daughter believes in santa, we have never used the "be good and get gifts" routine. she understands that some gifts will be coming from her parents and some gifts come from santa.
her belief in santa and the expression on her face on Christmas morning,is the best present she gives without knowing it.

dunkman

reversedarwinism wrote:

There is nothing about kids beliving in "magic" that makes it anymore special or cute.

i disagree so much with that statement.

my kids love the idea that there is a santa out there, who lives in the 'north pool' ... i dont do the whole 'if you've been bad you'll get nothing' trip on them either... as thats cruel... but i make footprints in fake snow around the chimney and leave a half eaten carrot and mince pie beside the fire... they love all that stuff... love it.

all kids love magic... even doing the penny behind the ear makes my kids giggle.

Hitch-Hiker

Heineken Helen wrote:

it's not 'lies' :eek: its 'magic'. Let the kids have some bloody magic in their lives... why do we need to introduce them to reality so early??? That's bullshit... I personally LOVED the whole magic of santa thing... and I don't know ONE person who was fucked up by learning the truth. It's doing NO harm! :mad: there! Rant over!

Damn Straight! Santa rules! Imagine how boring christmas would be without Santa. Not to mention all those in the red-hat business being made redundant.

ajedigecko

dunkman wrote:

i disagree so much with that statement.

my kids love the idea that there is a santa out there, who lives in the 'north pool' ... i dont do the whole 'if you've been bad you'll get nothing' trip on them either... as thats cruel... but i make footprints in fake snow around the chimney and leave a half eaten carrot and mince pie beside the fire... they love all that stuff... love it.

all kids love magic... even doing the penny behind the ear makes my kids giggle.

genius idea.....i will leave the footprints also, if we have snow.

Heineken Helen

reversedarwinism wrote:

I used to say it was an introduction to future lies. This guy watches over you and judges you. If your good you get a prize... sounds like what most christians think of God. Now I just think, why do we have to make some shit up to get kids into christmas? The presents, the family, the time off from school, the pecan pie, the celebration of Jesus's birth (if you like) is plenty. There is nothing about kids beliving in "magic" that makes it anymore special or cute. If they didn't believe in it, it'd still be a very special time of the year.

I disagree strongly... it's the magic that makes it MOST special. The best part of christmas is kids getting their gifts from santa. I'll miss having no kids around this year cos the fact that it's so magical for them... well, it spreads and makes it magical for everyone! It's a beautiful time of the year and I miss that magic.

Easter has all that you listed above... and yet it's nowhere NEAR as wonderful as christmas! Why's that? No santa! Simple!

dunkman

ajedigecko wrote:

genius idea.....i will leave the footprints also, if we have snow.

http://www.prezzybox.com/products/index.aspx?pid=3629

i love it... and it feels cold and lasts for ages... brilliant invention

angie76

Heineken Helen wrote:

I disagree strongly... it's the magic that makes it MOST special. The best part of christmas is kids getting their gifts from santa. I'll miss having no kids around this year cos the fact that it's so magical for them... well, it spreads and makes it magical for everyone! It's a beautiful time of the year and I miss that magic.

Easter has all that you listed above... and yet it's nowhere NEAR as wonderful as christmas! Why's that? No santa! Simple!

How about the easter bunny, he's special too you know

reversedarwinism

dunkman wrote:

i disagree so much with that statement.

my kids love the idea that there is a santa out there, who lives in the 'north pool' ... i dont do the whole 'if you've been bad you'll get nothing' trip on them either... as thats cruel... but i make footprints in fake snow around the chimney and leave a half eaten carrot and mince pie beside the fire... they love all that stuff... love it.

all kids love magic... even doing the penny behind the ear makes my kids giggle.

Garuantee the kids' faces will light up just as much knowing that great gift came from you.

Hitch-Hiker

reversedarwinism wrote:

Garuantee the kids' faces will light up just as much knowing that great gift came from you.

pfft, killjoy :(

And you're wrong there. The idea of a kindly magical old man dropping presents down a chimney is far more exciting to a child than the idea of their parents going to smyths and buying a lego set.

Heineken Helen

angie76 wrote:

How about the easter bunny, he's special too you know

nah not really... I never fully fell for the whole story about a rabbit delivering chocolate eggs... even as a kid it made no sense! but the whole st. nicholas thing... well that was true, wasn't it? Lapland's a REAL place that exists and there actually ARE reindeer... it was foolproof.

Heineken Helen

Hitch-Hiker wrote:

pfft, killjoy :(

And you're wrong there. The idea of a kindly magical old man dropping presents down a chimney is far more exciting to a child than the idea of their parents going to smyths and buying a lego set.

exactly... what a silly thing to say... the kids aren't JUST in it for the gifts! The gifts are great... but the 'santa' thing is what makes it special.

reversedarwinism

Heineken Helen wrote:

I disagree strongly... it's the magic that makes it MOST special. The best part of christmas is kids getting their gifts from santa. I'll miss having no kids around this year cos the fact that it's so magical for them... well, it spreads and makes it magical for everyone! It's a beautiful time of the year and I miss that magic.

Easter has all that you listed above... and yet it's nowhere NEAR as wonderful as christmas! Why's that? No santa! Simple!

BS. Easter does have the bunny. You don't get gifts for Easter. You don't get out of school for two weeks. For most people it involves more of a concentration on church, which usually sucks for kids. Kids would be just as pumped with out santa. Hell my 3 year old is pumped about Christmas and he's scared of Santa and doesn't want anything to do with him. He wants a Wall-E toy.

angie76

Heineken Helen wrote:

nah not really... I never fully fell for the whole story about a rabbit delivering chocolate eggs... even as a kid it made no sense! but the whole st. nicholas thing... well that was true, wasn't it? Lapland's a REAL place that exists and there actually ARE reindeer... it was foolproof.

lol..well i actually believed in the easter bunny and the tooth fairy as well .

But yeah i think Santa was the best. But I thought he lived in the Northpole

eyedclaar

Heineken Helen wrote:

it was foolproof.

Especially the bit about the fat man fitting down the average chimney...

angie76

reversedarwinism wrote:

BS. Easter does have the bunny. You don't get gifts for Easter. You don't get out of school for two weeks. For most people it involves more of a concentration on church, which usually sucks for kids. Kids would be just as pumped with out santa. Hell my 3 year old is pumped about Christmas and he's scared of Santa and doesn't want anything to do with him. He wants a Wall-E toy.

It was kind of like xmas to me, I remember getting a huge cellophane wrapped basket full of candy and toys

eyedclaar

angie76 wrote:

lol..well i actually believed in the easter bunny and the tooth fairy as well .

But yeah i think Santa was the best. But I thought he lived in the Northpole

Yeah, what the fuck is lapland? I mean, other than that stripper club downtown...

Hitch-Hiker

eyedclaar wrote:

Especially the bit about the fat man fitting down the average chimney...

He was Magic!