The Rocky Movies

Lanegan7
Lanegan7 Posts: 124
edited November 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
These were some of my favorite all time films. But a couple things confused me, In the first Rocky when Rocky was knocked down, Mick pleaded to him "Down down stay down"

Why did he say that? Was it to prevent him from getting seriously injured? And at the end of the bout Apollo say "There ain't gonna be no rematch" Why did he say that when in the second film he couldn't wait until he got Rocky back into the ring?
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Mick told him to stay down because of fear of injury.

    Apollo told Rocky no rematch i guess because the fight was such a war. then in the hospital ...well, Apollo is just very cocky and a loud.
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  • sponger
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    Lanegan7 wrote:
    And at the end of the bout Apollo say "There ain't gonna be no rematch" Why did he say that when in the second film he couldn't wait until he got Rocky back into the ring?

    In the beginning of the second film, Apollo talks about how his kids are teased at school because their Dad is afraid of a rematch.

    That's what pushed Apollo over the edge.
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  • SENROCK
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    mole1985 wrote:
    'If he dies, he dies!'


    THAT is one of my favorite lines in the movie!!! :D

    Have u guys ever noticed that Adrian yells WAY too much??!! I have watched Rocky way too much but just last week i realized she freakin yells ALOT! I wanted to punch her in the grille when she looked at Rocky from the top of the stairs and yelled "YOU CANT WIN!!!!" WTF is that??!!!!
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    SENROCK! wrote:
    Have u guys ever noticed that Adrian yells WAY too much??!! I have watched Rocky way too much but just last week i realized she freakin yells ALOT! I wanted to punch her in the grille when she looked at Rocky from the top of the stairs and yelled "YOU CANT WIN!!!!" WTF is that??!!!!

    I think it's clear that Adrian has poor self-esteem. That is, she is very unsure of herself. This may have been due to unsupportive and/or emotionally abusive parents.

    Also, it may be from the way her brother treated her all those years. Throughout the Rocky series, we see that Paulie treats Adrian in a very demeaning and abusive manner.

    This type of environment may have shaped her views into views that were negative and defeatist-like.

    So, when she sees Rocky trying to pursue his dream of boxing greatness at any cost, Adrian reacts in the only way she knows how to react: with unhibited negativity.

    In a time when Rocky needs massive boosts of self-confidence, Adrian comes up short because self-confidence is an emotion with which she could not be less familiar. Her world is controlled by hopelessness and fear, and those feelings are all that she has to offer.
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    sponger wrote:
    I think it's clear that Adrian has poor self-esteem. That is, she is very unsure of herself. This may have been due to unsupportive and/or emotionally abusive parents.

    Also, it may be from the way her brother treated her all those years. Throughout the Rocky series, we see that Paulie treats Adrian in a very demeaning and abusive manner.

    This type of environment may have shaped her views into views that were negative and defeatist-like.

    So, when she sees Rocky trying to pursue his dream of boxing greatness at any cost, Adrian reacts in the only way she knows how to react: with unhibited negativity.

    In a time when Rocky needs massive boosts of self-confidence, Adrian comes up short because self-confidence is an emotion with which she could not be less familiar. Her world is controlled by hopelessness and fear, and those feelings are all that she has to offer.
    dude. i am FULLY aware of that whole description you just gave. I didnt ask WHY, i just said she yells too much.
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  • sponger
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    SENROCK! wrote:
    I didnt ask WHY.

    Actually, you did. And here it is:
    SENROCK! wrote:
    WTF is that??!!!!
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  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    They have been on all week on AMC movie channel.
  • Oz Jammer
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    I have to pick and choose my times of when to watch these movies. They get me VERY pumped up when I watch them
    Still haven't seen the new one yet.

    Fave Rocky movie - Rocky III. Mr T, Hulk Hogan, the death of Mickey, and Eye of the Tiger. What a combination!!
  • tybird
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    Lanegan7 wrote:
    Why did he say that? Was it to prevent him from getting seriously injured? And at the end of the bout Apollo say "There ain't gonna be no rematch" Why did he say that when in the second film he couldn't wait until he got Rocky back into the ring?
    Nobody dreamed that the first movie was going to be such a success....thus no sequels were originally planned.
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    tybird wrote:
    thus no sequels were originally planned.

    Too bad...it could have saved us from Tommy "Machine" Gunn.

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    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Too bad...it could have saved us from Tommy "Machine" Gunn.

    ;)

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    LMAO :D
    I always found it funny that Rocky gets diagnosed with brain damage in Rocky V, even though he's more coherent in that movie than what he was in the original Rocky :D
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    I and II were fantastic movies. III and IV were great, but more so on the action rather than the entirety of the movies. I and II had better writing.

    The last one was a lot better than I thought it would be.

    V was god awful. I am glad they ended it on a step up from that one.
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    The best movies ever made.

    Rocky Balboa is currently my fav movie.

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  • Phantom Pain
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    1.Rocky

    2.Rocky III

    3.Rocky IV



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  • eyedclaar
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    My biggest problem was with the boxing (well, the acting wasn't great, but...). Had Sly ever actually watched a boxing match before? Worst pretend boxing match ever staged. Good lord, do some research Stallone.
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  • Phantom Pain
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    eyedclaar wrote:
    My biggest problem was with the boxing (well, the acting wasn't great, but...). Had Sly ever actually watched a boxing match before? Worst pretend boxing match ever staged. Good lord, do some research Stallone.

    What are you trying to say...you can't take those punches that sound like a 4-by-4 hitting a wall ?
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  • eyedclaar
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    Phantom Pain wrote:
    What are you trying to say...you can't take those punches that sound like a 4-by-4 hitting a wall ?

    haha. And they each took about 1,000 shots that would cripple or kill any fighter. Did Stallone realize that boxers actually attempt and successfully block punches as well? Or at least dodge one now and then...
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  • Lanegan7
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    Rocky V bothers me, mostly because their kid aged about five years during their time in Russia, that really kills the movie. It had good potential with Rocky becoming brain damaged and not being able to fight anymore, but it went downhill from there. Also for whatever reason the acting itself seemed to have suffered, it was lame.

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