No Country For Old Men

genie

duggro wrote:

sorry genie, but you're really talking nonsense! slasher movie? bollocks to that. comparing it to jeepers creepers? embarassing!

in the end he is talking about riding with his father through snow and his father is riding ahead, but he can see that when he stops his father will have made a fire for him....or something along those lines

where did you see me comparing one movie with the other? i simply stated two other movies with the same sad ending, i did not go on to compare them. if i would do that i'd be an idiot.

ok, so why shouldn't i throw it into a slasher movie? it has a psychotic individual killing everyone he feels like for no aparent reason. I'm dissapointed with how "slow" ( using the word other person described this movie ) the movie went after that cowboy got the money.

thank you for telling me the ending though i knew there wasn't going to be anything spectacular in the sheriffs words.

i'm dissapointed because i had high expectations. However recently i've seen a great movie that i had really shitty expectation, and it turned out to be a gem. it's called Death Sentence, yep it has the usual plot, about a family man taking justice into his own hands, however his acting and everything in the movie kept me on the edge of my seat.

hehe, for the record Kevin Bacon is a great actor and a hottie too

Slip Kid

It was a pretty good movie.

duggro

genie wrote:

where did you see me comparing one movie with the other? i simply stated two other movies with the same sad ending, i did not go on to compare them. if i would do that i'd be an idiot.

ok, so why shouldn't i throw it into a slasher movie? it has a psychotic individual killing everyone he feels like for no aparent reason. I'm dissapointed with how "slow" ( using the word other person described this movie ) the movie went after that cowboy got the money.

thank you for telling me the ending though i knew there wasn't going to be anything spectacular in the sheriffs words.

i'm dissapointed because i had high expectations. However recently i've seen a great movie that i had really shitty expectation, and it turned out to be a gem. it's called Death Sentence, yep it has the usual plot, about a family man taking justice into his own hands, however his acting and everything in the movie kept me on the edge of my seat.

hehe, for the record Kevin Bacon is a great actor and a hottie too

my post wasnt meant to sound bitchy, but i guess it came across that way- apologies. i just really liked the movie, thats all

StoneG82

first of all, fantastic movie. bardem is superb as Anton Chigurh, and is probably my favorite villain of all time.

second: having just finished the book, the ending is spot on. that is how the book ends also, with Sheriff Bell talking about a dream he had involving his father.

"and then I woke up" is the last line of the book.

LONGRD

StoneG82 wrote:

first of all, fantastic movie. bardem is superb as Anton Chigurh, and is probably my favorite villain of all time.

second: having just finished the book, the ending is spot on. that is how the book ends also, with Sheriff Bell talking about a dream he had involving his father.

"and then I woke up" is the last line of the book.

Thanks for the book-movie comparison, I'm not a big fan of reading books

Anyways, I have to agree with the people he did not like the ending. The majority of the film is very dark and intense, but the final 20-30 minutes was just, I don't know, SOFT?, I guess that's the word.

To me I wanted it to go out with a big bang or even a twist...

StoneG82

LongRd. wrote:

Thanks for the book-movie comparison, I'm not a big fan of reading books

Anyways, I have to agree with the people he did not like the ending. The majority of the film is very dark and intense, but the final 20-30 minutes was just, I don't know, SOFT?, I guess that's the word.

To me I wanted it to go out with a big bang or even a twist...

the ending definitely had a softer but deeper effect. here's how I look at it -

Sheriff Bell, when he's in the hotel room and realizes that Chigurh had been there also and possibly made away with the money, gives up on trying to stop him. It's very symbolic. Anton = evil in the world. Bell realizes he's too old to try and contain all the bad things happening to his county anymore, (hence the title, No Country for Old Men) and in the book, he retires at the end.

duggro

LongRd. wrote:

Thanks for the book-movie comparison, I'm not a big fan of reading books

Anyways, I have to agree with the people he did not like the ending. The majority of the film is very dark and intense, but the final 20-30 minutes was just, I don't know, SOFT?, I guess that's the word.

To me I wanted it to go out with a big bang or even a twist...

aint that soft. he killed the fiance girl which was a bit cold blooded

genie

duggro wrote:

my post wasnt meant to sound bitchy, but i guess it came across that way- apologies. i just really liked the movie, thats all

your post was alright, no need for apologies your/mine posts are what i call a discussion

duggro

genie wrote:

your post was alright, no need for apologies your/mine posts are what i call a discussion

i agree

a discussion where i am right and you are wrong:)

only kidding

LONGRD

duggro wrote:

aint that soft. he killed the fiancee girl which was a bit cold blooded

They never show it though, he just walks out the door.

I was look for a Chigur and Moss duel or something of that nature.

LONGRD

LongRd. wrote:

They never show it though, he just walks out the door.

I was look for a Chigur and Moss duel or something of that nature.

Fuck! looks like I might have to watch this movie over again and read between the lines. Just read a lot of theories on it's imdb board.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477348/board/flat/95644738?p=1

Took me three times to understand Pulp Fiction and Being John Malkavich, so I might do this one over again. The two films I've mentioned are my top two favorite, this one might be up there too.

duggro

LongRd. wrote:

They never show it though, he just walks out the door.

I was look for a Chigur and Moss duel or something of that nature.

nah, he checked his boots for blood when he walked out the house

Byrnzie

genie wrote:

i thought so too, until i watched it all the way through

first why on earth were they talking so quietly??? therefore i don't fucking know what the sheriff said in the end.

second hell, i expected something more at the end of it

Read the book before wtching the movie next time.
The book's incredible.
Great film anyway.
I just got banned from the board for 3 days for posting a link on here to an illegal download of it. *bows head in shame, but lets out a little snigger anyway*

Byrnzie

LongRd. wrote:

Thanks for the book-movie comparison, I'm not a big fan of reading books

Anyways, I have to agree with the people he did not like the ending. The majority of the film is very dark and intense, but the final 20-30 minutes was just, I don't know, SOFT?, I guess that's the word.

To me I wanted it to go out with a big bang or even a twist...

You need to read the book to really appreciate the movie. You also need to think about the title of the movie.
There is no happy ending. There is no predictable ending...i.e, the 'hero' defeats the 'villain' type of climax.
This is a story about how things have changed, and how the old values of law, order, morals, right, and wrong have been turned on their headsi this day and age. What sufficed 50 or 100 yers ago may now be redundant.
You need to listen carfull to what Tommy Lee Jone's character says in the movie, more than anyone else. The sherrif actually has the leading role in the film...not the other fella. It's about how a new kind of moral compass has entered int the scheme of things...how this is no longer a 'country for old men'.

harmless_little_f***

Was the ending for this as disappointing and unrewarding as the ending of Zodiac? That's my question.

intodeep

I saw this last night. I liked it.

It is not your typical hollywood movie that gives you a packaged climax and resolution.

I liked the theme of not being able to control what is in your life and the twist and turns it takes. I felt like we were looking at a snapshot of how chaotic life can be. Like we were lowered into those lifes for a few moments to prove that we can't control what is happening. We "can't see what's coming"

Loved that dark cloud over head when Lewran (sp) is shooting at the deer or whatever they are and how it is moving in. I thought that was foreshadowing for the entire movie then him not being able to set his sight on his target even with preparation.

Lots of little things like that i loved in the move it was well done.

duggro

Byrnzie wrote:

You need to read the book to really appreciate the movie. You also need to think about the title of the movie.
There is no happy ending. There is no predictable ending...i.e, the 'hero' defeats the 'villain' type of climax.
This is a story about how things have changed, and how the old values of law, order, morals, right, and wrong have been turned on their headsi this day and age. What sufficed 50 or 100 yers ago may now be redundant.
You need to listen carfull to what Tommy Lee Jone's character says in the movie, more than anyone else. The sherrif actually has the leading role in the film...not the other fella. It's about how a new kind of moral compass has entered int the scheme of things...how this is no longer a 'country for old men'.

but the wheelchair man kinda turns that on its head by saying 100 years ago people were bastards too. nothings changed, shit still happens, you've just got older thats all- its you that changes. no?

Byrnzie

duggro wrote:

but the wheelchair man kinda turns that on its head by saying 100 years ago people were bastards too. nothings changed, shit still happens, you've just got older thats all- its you that changes. no?

But then he represents the past, an not the present. I think they portrayed him as not understanding the present. Tommy Lee Jones is stuck between the two. Something like that.
Again, read the book. It's superb.

genie

duggro wrote:

but the wheelchair man kinda turns that on its head by saying 100 years ago people were bastards too. nothings changed, shit still happens, you've just got older thats all- its you that changes. no?

and this time i must say you are right

Obi Once

Enjoyed the movie, but will agree with most here that the ending was a bit of an anti climax. It was nerve wrecking every time Chigurh caught up with Llewelyn and Josh Brolin does some great acting, I really hoped his character pulled thru.. What I got from the dream at the end was that it was cold and his father passed him by but was waiting for him by a fire, all felt death related.