If i found out today that _____ did steroids, i will pass out due to shock
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Rygar wrote:Well don't let it get you down, just a jab in good fun.
Say, you seem like a nice guy, want to come over and watch a movie?
Okay, we obviously have a different sense of humor. So now regarding watching a movie with you....I may consider it if you're willing to put out and don't have a cock..'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'0 -
Pedro Martinez...if he's not on it, and Clemens is should Clemens have to give all the Cy Youngs he stole from Pedro because he's white and not nearly as good? Would this make Pedro the unquestionable best pitcher of this generation?0
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ryan198 wrote:Pedro Martinez...if he's not on it, and Clemens is should Clemens have to give all the Cy Youngs he stole from Pedro because he's white and not nearly as good? Would this make Pedro the unquestionable best pitcher of this generation?
I would say yes, yes and yes..'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'0 -
ryan198 wrote:Pedro Martinez...if he's not on it, and Clemens is should Clemens have to give all the Cy Youngs he stole from Pedro because he's white and not nearly as good? Would this make Pedro the unquestionable best pitcher of this generation?
Uh, Can you name one Cy Young Clemens stole from Pedro? I fucking hate Clemens with a passion because he's liar, mercenary scumbag piece of shit and his agent's son is a tool, but he has never stolen a Cy Young from Pedro.
Pedro was in the NL prior to 98. So obviously the first 4 Cys by Clemens could not have been stolen from Pedro. In 98, Clemens had more wins, a lower era and more k's than Pedro and deserved the Cy. In 99 and 00 Pedro won the Cy. In 01, Clemens won the Cy and Pedro was hurt and Clemens won his last Cy in 2004 with the Astros when Pedro was helping the Sox win the World Series.
So Clemens did not steal any Cys from Pedro and in the baseball world - Pedro's 5 or 6 year span in comparable with Koufax's brilliant run in the 60's so I think he gets proper respect for his accomplishments.- Busted down the pretext
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I heard Varitek is on it.
Honestly, I don't think anyone would shock me."Don't lose your inner heat...ever" - EV 5/13/060 -
Apparently the list that several websites are reporting has some errors."Don't lose your inner heat...ever" - EV 5/13/060
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singularity wrote:steve sax
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
as a lifelong dodger fan let me say that's funny.....thanks:D:D:D
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Jason Tyner
If this guy is on roids then EVERYONE is.380 -
Solat13 wrote:Uh, Can you name one Cy Young Clemens stole from Pedro? I fucking hate Clemens with a passion because he's liar, mercenary scumbag piece of shit and his agent's son is a tool, but he has never stolen a Cy Young from Pedro.
Pedro was in the NL prior to 98. So obviously the first 4 Cys by Clemens could not have been stolen from Pedro. In 98, Clemens had more wins, a lower era and more k's than Pedro and deserved the Cy. In 99 and 00 Pedro won the Cy. In 01, Clemens won the Cy and Pedro was hurt and Clemens won his last Cy in 2004 with the Astros when Pedro was helping the Sox win the World Series.
So Clemens did not steal any Cys from Pedro and in the baseball world - Pedro's 5 or 6 year span in comparable with Koufax's brilliant run in the 60's so I think he gets proper respect for his accomplishments.0 -
Shawn Greene.
too skinny to have done them.So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me0 -
ryan198 wrote:Sorry...it was Barry Zito (Pedro was 20-4, 2.26 ERA, 239 K), and Roy Halladay (Pedro went 14-4, a ton of no-decisions b/c the sawx didn't know how to hit and blew tons of saves, 2.22 ERA, 1.04 WHIP...with the low win total I could see this one maybe) who did it to him in '02 and '03, which should have given Pedro 4-5 Cy Youngs along with that MVP award that was taken away from him. If he did that without steroids and Clemens did it with steroids how could anyone argue that Clemens was better?
No problem. We all make mistakes on here ... lol.
I see your point, but writers always vote on win totals for the Cy when the difference is 3 or more.
Check out the 1990 AL Cy Young voting. You could definitely argue that Clemens was robbed of that one after the first AL ERA sub 2.00 in years, but they gave it to Welch who had a better closer, Eckersly, making sure that every lead he left with was a win.- Busted down the pretext
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Greg MadduxNever, ever, flipping forget
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ryan198 wrote:Sorry...it was Barry Zito (Pedro was 20-4, 2.26 ERA, 239 K), and Roy Halladay (Pedro went 14-4, a ton of no-decisions b/c the sawx didn't know how to hit and blew tons of saves, 2.22 ERA, 1.04 WHIP...with the low win total I could see this one maybe) who did it to him in '02 and '03, which should have given Pedro 4-5 Cy Youngs along with that MVP award that was taken away from him. If he did that without steroids and Clemens did it with steroids how could anyone argue that Clemens was better?This weekend we rock Portland0
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Michael YoungDAL-7/5/98,10/17/00,6/9/03,11/15/13
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
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SEA-12/6/13
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Poncier wrote:Zito definitely stole the 02 award...a total joke. 03, it was tough to give it to a guy with 14 wins, so the Sox bullpen and lineup stole that one from him.0
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I talked to a Sports agent yesterday who said that Pettite, Clemens, and Piazza were on it. I also heard that the report is coming from, I believe 2000 onward, so we should not hear anything about players before that time. The other thing to be aware of is each player was told in advance that they would be on the list, so they will not be surprised when their name shows up. I hope some of the good guys like Griffey are on it!!0
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ucsbledbetter wrote:I talked to a Sports agent yesterday who said that Pettite, Clemens, and Piazza were on it. I also heard that the report is coming from, I believe 2000 onward, so we should not hear anything about players before that time. The other thing to be aware of is each player was told in advance that they would be on the list, so they will not be surprised when their name shows up. I hope some of the good guys like Griffey are on it!!
1. Pedro
2. Griffey
3. The Brewers 25 and under infield and Corey Hart0 -
talk radio is saying no more Hall for Roger...wowMansfield II: # 23, since '03
routine was the theme..
there aint gonna be any middle any more0
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