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tyler durdan and the joker

seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
edited July 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
when watching the dark knight, anyone else think that the joker was a lot like tyler durdan from fight club? both didnt wear brand names, and wanted to cause chaos and shit. i kept thinking that throughout the movie.

btw, sorry for starting another dark knight thread, theres like 20 now
they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    seanw1010 wrote:
    when watching the dark knight, anyone else think that the joker was a lot like tyler durdan from fight club? both didnt wear brand names, and wanted to cause chaos and shit. i kept thinking that throughout the movie.

    btw, sorry for starting another dark knight thread, theres like 20 now

    No, not really.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    the joker didnt wear brand names? how did this come up? did he make an anticonsumerist statement?
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  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    catefrances wrote:
    the joker didnt wear brand names? how did this come up? did he make an anticonsumerist statement?
    when he was at the police station they said none of his clothes had brand names, and they were custom or something
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    seanw1010 wrote:
    when he was at the police station they said none of his clothes had brand names, and they were custom or something

    really? just like that? that sounds just a trifle weird.
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  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    catefrances wrote:
    really? just like that? that sounds just a trifle weird.
    yeah man. it was when he was in the station right before grodan went in to question him
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    i have to say, im so not looking forward to seeing christian bale.
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  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    catefrances wrote:
    i have to say, im so not looking forward to seeing christian bale.
    the only really annoying part of the movie is his voice as batman
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    seanw1010 wrote:
    the only really annoying part of the movie is his voice as batman

    oh no i just dont like him as an actor. theres just something about him.
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  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    catefrances wrote:
    oh no i just dont like him as an actor. theres just something about him.
    hes not bad in the dark knight. definately one of the weaker actors in the cast though. hated him in the prestige though
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    christian bale is a great actor, you guys are nuts.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    _outlaw wrote:
    christian bale is a great actor, you guys are nuts.

    no ones saying he isnt(well im not anyway) he just bugs me is all. but yeah i am nuts. but only a little. ;):)
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  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    i thought he sucked in the prestige. but than again i hated the prestige...
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • BaystoneBaystone Posts: 111
    I couldn't help thinking of Tyler Durden when the Joker was getting beaten up and just kept laughing.
    I only lied because it was the easiest way to get what I wanted.
  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    Baystone wrote:
    I couldn't help thinking of Tyler Durden when the Joker was getting beaten up and just kept laughing.
    yeah that part too
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,929
    seanw1010 wrote:
    both didnt wear brand names, and wanted to cause chaos and shit.

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  • PearlJamaholicPearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    tyler durden wasnt a murderer though. joker enjoyed killing. tyler's goal was to set man free from his own chains. joker just wanted to create chaos for the sake of chaos.

    maybe joker and beetlejuice have something in common too. cause when the joker said "im a man of my word" he sounded like beetlejuice.
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  • jasonwjasonw Posts: 424
    seanw1010 wrote:
    when watching the dark knight, anyone else think that the joker was a lot like tyler durdan from fight club? both didnt wear brand names, and wanted to cause chaos and shit. i kept thinking that throughout the movie.

    btw, sorry for starting another dark knight thread, theres like 20 now


    it seems like having your clothes custom made is bigger form of consumerism than buying name brands....................and i don't remember tyler ever saying he didn't wear name brands, i know he said "you aren't your fucking khakis", but it wasn't like he was getting his clothes at a thirft store or anything.....i think he was actually a pretty sharp dresser
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    tyler durden wasnt a murderer though. joker enjoyed killing. tyler's goal was to set man free from his own chains. joker just wanted to create chaos for the sake of chaos.

    maybe joker and beetlejuice have something in common too. cause when the joker said "im a man of my word" he sounded like beetlejuice.


    oh and tyler durden wasnt real.
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  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    seanw1010 wrote:
    the only really annoying part of the movie is his voice as batman

    yeah..i thought so too.
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  • PearlJamaholicPearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    catefrances wrote:
    oh and tyler durden wasnt real.

    well he was in a sense. his actions were just the persona of another person.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    well he was in a sense. his actions were just the persona of another person.

    that doesnt make him real. it makes him a manifestation of the narrator's mind. his thoughts. he lacks a corporeal body. the joker in every sense is a person, tyler is not.
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  • PearlJamaholicPearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    catefrances wrote:
    that doesnt make him real. it makes him a manifestation of the narrator's mind. his thoughts. he lacks a corporeal body. the joker in every sense is a person, tyler is not.

    tyler was real though. he just didnt know he was tyler. tyler still boarded those planes and flew around the country starting fight clubs, that wasnt a ghost or anything. the narrator didnt know that when he slept, he became tyler, thats all.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    tyler was real though. he just didnt know he was tyler. tyler still boarded those planes and flew around the country starting fight clubs, that wasnt a ghost or anything. the narrator didnt know that when he slept, he became tyler, thats all.

    no he wasnt a ghost. to the narrator he real in that the narrator was unaware tyler was him. to everyone else he was real. but in the end the narrator comes to realise that tyler was an illusion. a part of himself he was unaware of. oh crap i just argued myself onto your side. :D

    but tyler and the narrator couldnt be in the same room at the same time as separate entities. they were two halves of a whole.
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  • PearlJamaholicPearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    catefrances wrote:
    no he wasnt a ghost. to the narrator he real in that the narrator was unaware tyler was him. to everyone else he was real. but in the end the narrator comes to realise that tyler was an illusion. a part of himself he was unaware of. oh crap i just argued myself onto your side. :D

    but tyler and the narrator couldnt be in the same room at the same time as separate entities. they were two halves of a whole.

    i cant believe im telling this but that last part about the same room business, reminded me of a dream i had where the narrator was doing tyler, and then he said something like "im masturbating" that dream still haunts me to this day.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    i cant believe im telling this but that last part about the same room business, reminded me of a dream i had where the narrator was doing tyler, and then he said something like "im masturbating" that dream still haunts me to this day.

    hmm... were you the narrator or tyler? ;):p


    and yet when it came down to it, the narrator decides to kill tyler. can you kill something that isnt real?
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  • PearlJamaholicPearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    catefrances wrote:
    hmm... were you the narrator or tyler? ;):p


    and yet when it came down to it, the narrator decides to kill tyler. can you kill something that isnt real?

    i was neither, i walked in on him/them...... but i saw both of them.

    ive always wondered about the movie, why he thought tyler died and yet he didnt. if the shot didnt kill him, how did it kill tyler? the books ending is alittle different.
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  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    catefrances wrote:
    oh no i just dont like him as an actor. theres just something about him.

    Really? I like him. I thought American Pshyco was great as was 3:10 to Yuma and that one about magic. What dont you like about him? I mean to each her own, just curious. :)
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    pjtradeking wrote:
    Really? I like him. I thought American Pshyco was great as was 3:10 to Yuma and that one about magic. What dont you like about him? I mean to each her own, just curious. :)

    LMAO!! it was american psycho that turned me against him. he just annoyed the shit out of me as patrick bateman. i dont know what it is about him. but sometimes i just want to smack him in the jaw. i havent seen 3:10 to yuma or 'the magic one'. i saw him in laurel canyon and shaft and batman begins and im not there of course(though for me that film was all about cate blanchett and dare i say it, heath ledger). perhaps i should give him more of a chance. i just cant. i am planning to see the dark knight this week though. .
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    seanw1010 wrote:
    the only really annoying part of the movie is his voice as batman
    Agreed. It was comical and that just didn't fit his personality. I know he was trying to disguise his voice but he could have done something other than that stupid low growl.
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