Red Wine...???

BrainOfJHA

I've never really had a whole lot of red wine, and I know EV is such a huge fan of it. Any suggestions for a first time buyer on what would be a good one to start out with? Sorry if this has been asked a million times on here...

jecica

Love My Goat by Bully Hill Vineyards. I hate alcohol, especially wine and I was able to polish a bottle off without making a face.

Steve Dunne

J Lohr has always worked with wine beginners in our family...i like the cabsauv personally. about $10 - $12 a bottle.

T C H

Barossa Valley, South Australia. Shiraz or Cabsav.
You can't go wrong

AmentsChick

My starter wine was Kendall Jackson. Been a wine drinker ever since.

BrainOfJHA

wow, some quick responses... thanks!

duggro

depends what you're into really

red's- go for some aussie shiraz's probs. big and strong and in your face but great tasting. d'arenberg are one of the top makers- bit pricier but worth it. if not, the peter lehman wildcard shiraz is worth a look

white's- depending what you're into, but a decent sauv blanc place to buy from is new zealand. chimney creek, or blind river if you are feeling like goin for the good stuff will get you a nice dry white

ClimberInOz

For a good start, stick to the 'strengths' of each region.

In the southern hemisphere this would be...
Australia: Shiraz
New Zealand: Pinot Noir
South America: Merlot??
South Africa: Pinotage

Not so sure about Northern Hemisphere.

duggro

oh totally forgot about chile! great bunch of reds from here

penalolen- do it!

acoustic guy

God, what a broad question.
What do you recommend a new wine drinker?
Well for starters, stay away for White Zin. Its for hookers and really really hot days. LOL
Red's, I would say to learn the different aromas, start with the basic's like merlot (yuk, but that me), and Cabernet Sauvignon (great with Steak).
Cab is the most popular red. I love Pinot Noir and Shiraz. I also love Italian wines like a nice Valpolicella or a (Barollo, $$$).
My favorite is any high end Bordeaux. Very Red and dry.
Dryer the better for me.

Hey, really dive into the wines. Its a fun hobby

wolfbear

BrainOfJayHunter wrote:

I've never really had a whole lot of red wine, and I know EV is such a huge fan of it. Any suggestions for a first time buyer on what would be a good one to start out with? Sorry if this has been asked a million times on here...

I'd suggest going to a couple wineries. They give you tastes of all the different varieties and tell you about them. It's fun and informative. Oh, bring along some cheese. Some actually serve food along with the tasting, some don't. Just google the ones closest to you. Have fun.

boxwine_in_hell

Pinot Noir is a good red wine to start with. It's lighter bodied and more fruit forward than some of the big Cabernets, Merlots and Shiraz. Unfortunately you kind of get what you pay for with wine. Most $7 wine tastes like $7 wine. Spend the extra cash if you want quality. If you just want to get drunk, drink beer.

acoustic guy

boxwine_in_hell wrote:

Pinot Noir is a good red wine to start with. It's lighter bodied and more fruit forward than some of the big Cabernets, Merlots and Shiraz. Unfortunately you kind of get what you pay for with wine. Most $7 wine tastes like $7 wine. Spend the extra cash if you want quality. If you just want to get drunk, drink beer.

Good info from a boxwine drinker

tony vi

try SAINT JULIEN , from France , it is not cheap but not expensive at well , the years is important as well and i think it is 2004 but can not remember for sure. you have different quality of wine like BOURGONE or BORDEAUX , ECT... but i always come back to a good SAINT JULIEN ( mis en bouteille au chateau , appelation controlee ) check that as well , it is important the wine come from is real origin .


let us know what you will try ...

small town beck

I love Barbera D'Asti from Italy. Shiraz as someone else suggested. I loves me red wine

Maybe I should have a glass or two

Cree Nations

I love all the red, lots of shiraz lately.....but I have always liked me a thick merlot

boxwine_in_hell

tony vi wrote:

try SAINT JULIEN , from France , it is not cheap but not expensive at well , the years is important as well and i think it is 2004 but can not remember for sure. you have different quality of wine like BOURGONE or BORDEAUX , ECT... but i always come back to a good SAINT JULIEN ( mis en bouteille au chateau , appelation controlee ) check that as well , it is important the wine come from is real origin .


let us know what you will try ...

St. Julien is an appelation of Bordeaux.

decides2dream

boxwine_in_hell wrote:

Pinot Noir is a good red wine to start with. It's lighter bodied and more fruit forward than some of the big Cabernets, Merlots and Shiraz. Unfortunately you kind of get what you pay for with wine. Most $7 wine tastes like $7 wine. Spend the extra cash if you want quality. If you just want to get drunk, drink beer.

uyes and no. some less expensive wines are quite tasty and some expensive wines are merely pricey. sure, price can be a barometer, but i would not judge soley on it. besides, everyone has a different palate.


to start, i personally would go with the more moderately priced until you refine your tastes buds. whoever suggested aussie shiraz, i agree ! [yellow tail] is very reasonable and tasty. overall, experiement and enjoy!

pinot noirs are my fave, but shiraz is a close follower. merlot is really not to my liking, but in a pinch.....;)

vedderfan10

Two Buck Chuck (Charles Shaw)....or Wolf Blass yellow label Shiraz...or Yellow Tail... I think those are much less expensive in the US than in Canada (where I live)...Yellow Tail is around $7 US and about $15 - $17 in BC...Wolf Blass is similar...

And I really recommend Fica Finchel (?) malbec - DE-LISH! Fruit Forward and jammy!

boxwine_in_hell

decides2dream wrote:

uyes and no. some less expensive wines are quite tasty and some expensive wines are merely pricey. sure, price can be a barometer, but i would not judge soley on it. besides, everyone has a different palate.


to start, i personally would go with the more moderately priced until you refine your tastes buds. whoever suggested aussie shiraz, i agree ! [yellow tail] is very reasonable and tasty. overall, experiement and enjoy!

pinot noirs are my fave, but shiraz is a close follower. merlot is really not to my liking, but in a pinch.....;)

Yeah everyone does have a different palet obviously because Yellow Tail is a terrible, rot gut wine.

The Juggler

try some mirasou merlot....only 12 bucks and its delicious.

boxwine_in_hell

acoustic guy wrote:

Good info from a boxwine drinker

No, that's going to be my punishment in hell. Until then I'm spending ridiculous cash on my wine collection, much to my wife's dismay. Although she doesn't complain when she drinks it.

Wife: "How much did this cost."
Me: "Uhhh....errrrrr.....uhhhhh don't worry about it."

decides2dream

boxwine_in_hell wrote:

Yeah everyone does have a different palet obviously because Yellow Tail is a terrible, rot gut wine.

thanks for proving my point beautifully.
i like many different wines in many different price ranges, so price alone to me, and to many, is not a good baramopter of being *great* at all......and yes, i think my palate is just fine. you keep spending 'ridiculous cash' on your wine collection...and i'll enjoy a bottle of yellow tail, and other inexpensive wines, with dinner during the week, save the more expensive stuff for special occasions....and just enjoy wine, period.

bovy_j

I love red wine! Get it all the time! (that rhymes )
I most recently tried a Cabernet from Australia, it was called [yellow tail]. I think it could be my favorite yet! It's just great!

kenshunt

BrainOfJayHunter wrote:

I've never really had a whole lot of red wine, and I know EV is such a huge fan of it. Any suggestions for a first time buyer on what would be a good one to start out with? Sorry if this has been asked a million times on here...

Nah, not much on drinking wine.

boxwine_in_hell

decides2dream wrote:

thanks for proving my point beautifully.
i like many different wines in many different price ranges, so price alone to me, and to many, is not a good baramopter of being *great* at all......and yes, i think my palate is just fine. you keep spending 'ridiculous cash' on your wine collection...and i'll enjoy a bottle of yellow tail, and other inexpensive wines, with dinner during the week, save the more expensive stuff for special occasions....and just enjoy wine, period.

There are plenty good wines in the $7-$12 range, but Yellow Tail is not one of them. There are some cheap, South American malbecs that are very good.

theroachman

I only drink red wine anymore. Beer to fating and the hard stuff to boaring.

aussie shiraz Wishing Tree is my current favorite. I also like the many great but overpriced Pinots from my home of Santa Barbara County.

acoustic guy

boxwine_in_hell wrote:

No, that's going to be my punishment in hell. Until then I'm spending ridiculous cash on my wine collection, much to my wife's dismay. Although she doesn't complain when she drinks it.

Wife: "How much did this cost."
Me: "Uhhh....errrrrr.....uhhhhh don't worry about it."

Thats funny b/ cmy wife would do the same exact thing!
How much???????...........How Much??????....
Now I tend to to a little cheaper b/c of having a daughter now. The kids can be costly.

boxwine_in_hell

acoustic guy wrote:

Thats funny b/ cmy wife would do the same exact thing!
How much???????...........How Much??????....
Now I tend to to a little cheaper b/c of having a daughter now. The kids can be costly.

That's Funny. Did you ever try to play ignorant? "I don't remember honey." When you know damn well almost down to the penney how much it cost.

decides2dream

boxwine_in_hell wrote:

There are plenty good wines in the $7-$12 range, but Yellow Tail is not one of them. There are some cheap, South American malbecs that are very good.

hmmmmmmmm, it seems well rather obvious to state the obvious, but here goes: taste is subjective.

obviously, if i enjoy something, it pleases me...i think it is *good*. therefore, b/c i enjoy yellow tail shiraz, i think it's good.

this can be said for ANYthing: wine, beer, chocolate, sushi, pasta, art, music, etc, etc. sure there may be *experts* whop say this is 'good' and this is 'bad'....but in all honesty doesn't amount to a thing. all enjoy what they enjoy. some people may enjoy many of the same things, thus why certain things are more popluar/mainstream while others aren't...some things are aquired tastes.....some things rare/pricey that many can't even ever experience, etc.

so again.....to me...yellow tail is good. to you, it is not. and that's all good. however, it annoys me, at best...when one thinks their opinion of something so subjective as taste....is *right*...b/c there is no right in such things. we all enjoy what we enjoy.


that said, i really need to try some SA wines, i keep hearing good things. i've tried many cali/italian/aussie wines.....always love to explore more!

chiquimonkey

chilean red is especially yummy! it's been a loooooong time since i've bought any red, barring the occassional glass when dining out. i'll have to pick up a bottle of merlot to have on hand