Bruce Lee as an MMA fighter

suns rival

im wondering if how will he fare against the great MMA fighters. will he survive?

Hawkshore

He would be master of the Dojo!!!

South of Seattle

suns rival wrote:

im wondering if how will he fare against the great MMA fighters. will he survive?

Bruce Lee would dominate

mookie blaylock 10

suns rival wrote:

im wondering if how will he fare against the great MMA fighters. will he survive?

i don't know how much bruce lee weighed, but i would guess around 170 just to put him a weight category. so if you look at the best in mma at the moment at WW, it's georges st-pierre. gsp would most likely take him down and submit him in relatively quick fashion. there is a lot of talent out there just under georges' skill level and i'd be willing to bet that most of them could do them same.

he'd have to adapt his style to prevent a fight going to the ground and maybe then he would have been dangerous. in jeet kune do, i think he developed his own concept of what was effective so i'm sure someone as gifted as he was both mentally and physically would fare well after incorporating new techniques into their style.

i guess to answer your question more briefly, suns rival, he would lose against most mixed martial artists with a decent ground game and takedown abilities. just my opinion.

noisy mind

there's no way i can prove this obviously, but i'll go out on a limb and say that bruce lee would take a giant shit on gsp if they were the same weight class.

but i think bruce lee was more like 150 after a couple of egg rolls.

mookie blaylock 10

noisy mind wrote:

there's no way i can prove this obviously, but i'll go out on a limb and say that bruce lee would take a giant shit on gsp if they were the same weight class.

but i think bruce lee was more like 150 after a couple of egg rolls.

thanks, i wasn't sure on his weight. so he'd probabaly fight at FW or LW and the result would most likely be the same, considering there is more talent in these lower weight classes. he would have a chance when the match starts standing, but if he had no ground game then he would get submitted pretty quickly when the match hit the floor.

edit: also, i don't think that georges would be "impress by 'dat performance."

Lostdoggie

I copied this from Wikipedia, so it must be true:

Lee's striking speed from three feet with his hands down by his side reached five hundredths of a second.[49]

Lee's combat movements were at times too fast to be captured on film at 24fps, so many scenes were shot in 32fps to put Lee in slow motion. Normally martial arts films are sped up.[50][51][52]

In a speed demonstration, Lee could snatch a dime off a person's open palm before they could close it, and leave a penny behind.[53]

Lee could perform push ups using only his thumbs[41][48]

Lee would hold an elevated v-sit position for 30 minutes or longer.[47]

Lee could throw grains of rice up into the air and then catch them in mid-flight using chopsticks.[41]

Lee performed one-hand push-ups using only the thumb and index finger[48][54][41][48]

Lee performed 50 reps of one-arm chin-ups.[55]

From a standing position, Lee could hold a 125 lb (57 kg) barbell straight out.[47][41]

Lee could break wooden boards 6 inches (15 cm) thick.[56]

Lee performed a side kick while training with James Coburn and broke a 150-lb (68 kg) punching bag[47][57]

Lee could cause a 300-lb (136 kg) bag to fly towards and thump the ceiling with a side kick.[48]

In a move that has been dubbed "Dragon Flag", Lee could perform leg lifts with only his shoulder blades resting on the edge of a bench and suspend his legs and torso perfectly horizontal midair.[58]

Lee could thrust his fingers through unopened steel cans of Coca-Cola, at a time before cans were made of the softer aluminum metal.[59]

Lee could use one finger to leave dramatic indentations on pine wood.[59]


If he could do all that, I'm pretty sure he would do well in MMA.

mca47

Hard to say.

What's true to date is that the best of the best in many MA's cannot compete in such events, so it's hard to say that a guy who wins some big event is "the best in the world" because there are sooo many out there who can't actually stand in the same ring, octagon, etc. as these other guys.

Either way, Bruce Lee was a badass nonetheless.

g under p

I don't think he'd waste his time with this.

Peace

brainofPJ

Lostdoggie wrote:

I copied this from Wikipedia, so it must be true:

Lee's striking speed from three feet with his hands down by his side reached five hundredths of a second.[49]

Lee's combat movements were at times too fast to be captured on film at 24fps, so many scenes were shot in 32fps to put Lee in slow motion. Normally martial arts films are sped up.[50][51][52]

In a speed demonstration, Lee could snatch a dime off a person's open palm before they could close it, and leave a penny behind.[53]

to back some of this up...

there was a PBS special some time back on Bruce Lee. at one point someone was saying how some guy or student challenged Lee to a fight and the guy asked Lee if he was ready.

Lee replied something to the effect of "what do you mean? i already hit you..."

at that time, some teeth fell out of the guys mouth.

hahaha

stickboy

Bruce woulda tore any of those guy up..just imo and from what Ive know and read..jeet kun do was the style he created to counter any style. Weight would def be a factor so you would have to categorize him accordingly.

Hinny

The whole idea of JKD is when the opposing guy makes a move, you'd have looked at all the faults in that movement, to cut off this movement, however insignificant, with a speedy strike at the weakest point.

For someone a bit slower, it'd be hard to pull off. But Lee has extreme speed compared with extreme precision and strike power. He'd eat all these guys for breakfast and clean up the dishes and finish reading the morning paper before you could crack open an egg.

civ_eng_girl

Lostdoggie wrote:

I copied this from Wikipedia, so it must be true:

Lee's striking speed from three feet with his hands down by his side reached five hundredths of a second.[49]

Lee's combat movements were at times too fast to be captured on film at 24fps, so many scenes were shot in 32fps to put Lee in slow motion. Normally martial arts films are sped up.[50][51][52]

In a speed demonstration, Lee could snatch a dime off a person's open palm before they could close it, and leave a penny behind.[53]

wow... i don't think even GSP could 'andle 'dat riddum!

mammasan

mookie blaylock 10 wrote:

i don't know how much bruce lee weighed, but i would guess around 170 just to put him a weight category. so if you look at the best in mma at the moment at WW, it's georges st-pierre. gsp would most likely take him down and submit him in relatively quick fashion. there is a lot of talent out there just under georges' skill level and i'd be willing to bet that most of them could do them same.

he'd have to adapt his style to prevent a fight going to the ground and maybe then he would have been dangerous. in jeet kune do, i think he developed his own concept of what was effective so i'm sure someone as gifted as he was both mentally and physically would fare well after incorporating new techniques into their style.

i guess to answer your question more briefly, suns rival, he would lose against most mixed martial artists with a decent ground game and takedown abilities. just my opinion.

I have to agree. While Lee was an amazing martial artist he did not have any type of grappling or Jui Jitsu experience. Any of the top fighters in his weight class with a strong ground game would have been able to submit Lee. If Lee, in his prime, would have committed himself to learning BJJ he would have been practically unstoppable in a MMA fight.

acoustic guy

suns rival wrote:

im wondering if how will he fare against the great MMA fighters. will he survive?

He would take them out in seconds. No challenge

acoustic guy

Just read some posts here. You people are nuts to think any of those guys could beat Lee. Sure they are more rounded then he was but he would know this and finish them in seconds. Seconds.

NY PJ1

acoustic guy wrote:

He would take them out in seconds. No challenge

im not to sure about that

acoustic guy

NY PJ1 wrote:

im not to sure about that

Wanna fight about it?

eyedclaar

acoustic guy wrote:

Wanna fight about it?

It's times like this that you two gentleman need to ask yourself, WWBLD?

Oh yeah, he'd fight! Lets get it on!

NY PJ1

acoustic guy wrote:

Wanna fight about it?

thats the dude from family guy lol

plus i would just snap your arm and send u on your way lol

maybe i would rob the store b4 i left lol

acoustic guy

NY PJ1 wrote:

thats the dude from family guy lol

plus i would just snap your arm and send u on your way lol

maybe i would rob the store b4 i left lol

LOL
Bitch, I would hit you with so many lefts, that you would beg me for rights!

NY PJ1

acoustic guy wrote:

LOL
Bitch, I would hit you with so many lefts, that you would beg me for rights!

i love that line its a classic lol

or their will be 3 things hitting


me hitting u ...... u hitting the floor .... someone hitting 911 on the phone lol

acoustic guy

NY PJ1 wrote:

i love that line its a classic lol

or their will be 3 things hitting


me hitting u ...... u hitting the floor .... someone hitting 911 on the phone lol

You wanna mess with me? I hope you got dental insurance.
I am sure you have hear them all living in NY.
You talkin to me? You talkin to me? I'm the only one standing here?
You talkin to me?

Phantom Pain

Bruce Lee was a pussy

Kareem gave him all he could handle

noisy mind

From Wickipedia:

Bruce Lee would eat ground beef and shit out live cows.

The character Neo from the Matrix is based on Bruce Lee, except for the "being gay" part.

Bruce Lee once peed on R. Kelly.

Bruce Lee is only only man to defeat Chuck Norris on camera...that actually is a true story.

stickboy

Hinny wrote:

The whole idea of JKD is when the opposing guy makes a move, you'd have looked at all the faults in that movement, to cut off this movement, however insignificant, with a speedy strike at the weakest point.

For someone a bit slower, it'd be hard to pull off. But Lee has extreme speed compared with extreme precision and strike power. He'd eat all these guys for breakfast and clean up the dishes and finish reading the morning paper before you could crack open an egg.

very nicely put...sounds like a quote of one of my Lee books. But yea Lee was too quick at anticipating his opponents move
Speed dominates strength any day. You could be 180 fighting against like a 300lb musclehead Bouncer type at a club and if you take out his knee, cripple him to the ground and blast him lets say in the nose or in his throat...its a wrap..just dont get caught or wind up grappled and even then you can still get out of it if you know your shit!

Flannel Shirt

I dont think they would be able to get him to the ground. The guy was the fucking man. He would simply punch or kick them in the face when they attacked and kill them. They would probably have to tie one hand behind his back and blindfold him to make it fair.

I am only half kidding. He was blazing fast and his reactions to an opponents moves were cat like.

The only person who ever beat him in competition I belive was Chuck Norris, and we all know how bad ass he is (see the million threads in here). Maybe thats a rumor, but thats what I have heard.

eyedclaar

Flannel Shirt wrote:

I dont think they would be able to get him to the ground. The guy was the fucking man. He would simply punch or kick them in the face when they attacked and kill them. They would probably have to tie one hand behind his back and blindfold him to make it fair.

I am only half kidding. He was blazing fast and his reactions to an opponents moves were cat like.

The only person who ever beat him in competition I belive was Chuck Norris, and we all know how bad ass he is (see the million threads in here). Maybe thats a rumor, but thats what I have heard.

Hahahaha. Chuck Norris never beat Bruce Lee in any real competition.

stickboy

Flannel Shirt wrote:

I dont think they would be able to get him to the ground. The guy was the fucking man. He would simply punch or kick them in the face when they attacked and kill them. They would probably have to tie one hand behind his back and blindfold him to make it fair.

I am only half kidding. He was blazing fast and his reactions to an opponents moves were cat like.

The only person who ever beat him in competition I belive was Chuck Norris, and we all know how bad ass he is (see the million threads in here). Maybe thats a rumor, but thats what I have heard.

the only ones who MIGHT have a chance to ground him would prolly be the Gracies...they could use their patience to perhaps wear him out and frustrate him...but even then as a fan of both MMA and Lee I gotta say Lees got the upper hand. He was just too savvy for any fighter

eyedclaar

Is there any footage of Lee in real martial art combat situations?

tonadax

the weight thing wouldn't be a big problem for lee, roice gracie (skinny guy)on early 90's beat dan severn, tank abbot, ken shanrock an many others great UFC fighters.