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South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
edited July 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
So Volquez for the Reds pitches 6 innings today. Leaves while the team is ahead 5-3 in the 6th inning. The Reds win 6-5 and Volquez gets the win, why?
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    South of Seattle wrote:
    So Volquez for the Reds pitches 6 innings today. Leaves while the team is ahead 5-3 in the 6th inning. The Reds win 6-5 and Volquez gets the win, why?


    he made though to an official game

    the reds won the game without giving up the lead


    best guesses :)
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    cutback wrote:
    he made though to an official game

    the reds won the game without giving up the lead


    best guesses :)

    Yeah, if his team didn't give up the lead then it's his win.
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    cutback wrote:
    he made though to an official game

    the reds won the game without giving up the lead


    best guesses :)

    I always thought that if the opposing team scored more than what the pitcher was responsible for then the win would go to the the guy that relieved Volquez. :confused:

    But yeah, what you said makes sense.
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  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    Another dumb pitching question. I was watching a Tigers game a while back and the they were ahead 7-3, Todd Jones comes in and pitches the 9th, allows 2 run, and they win 7-5 and he doesn't get the save. The next week I'm watching another game and it was 11-3, the pitcher comes in and pitches the 9th and gets the save?
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  • bossman3188bossman3188 Posts: 263
    South of Seattle wrote:
    Another dumb pitching question. I was watching a Tigers game a while back and the they were ahead 7-3, Todd Jones comes in and pitches the 9th, allows 2 run, and they win 7-5 and he doesn't get the save. The next week I'm watching another game and it was 11-3, the pitcher comes in and pitches the 9th and gets the save?

    you get the save when its 3 runs or less that you have preserved for the win
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  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    bossman3188 wrote:
    you get the save when its 3 runs or less that you have preserved for the win

    That's what I thought too, but then someone got a save when they were ahead by 8 runs! I need to find out which game this was.
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  • tvismyfriendtvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    South of Seattle wrote:
    That's what I thought too, but then someone got a save when they were ahead by 8 runs! I need to find out which game this was.
    Are you sure he came in during the 9th? If the lead is greater then 3 runs and a reliever comes in and does more than 3 innings then he can get a save.
  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    Edit. Wrong thread!
  • Fighting HellfishFighting Hellfish Posts: 3,170
    There's a rule that says if you get the last 9 outs (3 innings) regardless of score, you get the save. There was a 30-3 last year, and a pitcher got the save.

    As to Volquez---he left with the lead. As long as a pitcher goes 5 innings, and leaves with the lead, he is in line for the win. if the other team ties it, then he will not get a win.
  • Fighting HellfishFighting Hellfish Posts: 3,170
    South of Seattle wrote:
    Another dumb pitching question. I was watching a Tigers game a while back and the they were ahead 7-3, Todd Jones comes in and pitches the 9th, allows 2 run, and they win 7-5 and he doesn't get the save. The next week I'm watching another game and it was 11-3, the pitcher comes in and pitches the 9th and gets the save?


    As to Todd Jones, a pitcher can not "create his own save' meaning the game is either a save situation when you eneter the game, or it's not. You can't come into a 4 run lead, give one up, then get a save
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    There's a rule that says if you get the last 9 outs (3 innings) regardless of score, you get the save. There was a 30-3 last year, and a pitcher got the save.

    As to Volquez---he left with the lead. As long as a pitcher goes 5 innings, and leaves with the lead, he is in line for the win. if the other team ties it, then he will not get a win.

    True, the game was never tied, I just always thought it was somehow tied to home many runs your team had when you left the game.

    Nice work on clearing this up for me Gentlemen
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  • Fighting HellfishFighting Hellfish Posts: 3,170
    looks like you've got it now. baseball has some tricky rules. lifelong fans have a hard time with some rules
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    looks like you've got it now. baseball has some tricky rules. lifelong fans have a hard time with some rules

    Which I am :o
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  • suns rivalsuns rival Posts: 15,926
    may i ask what OBP means?
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  • vduboisevduboise Posts: 1,937
    suns rival wrote:
    may i ask what OBP means?


    on-base percentage

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_base_percentage
  • Fighting HellfishFighting Hellfish Posts: 3,170
    that's On Base Percentage. Basicaaly, walks plus hits divided by plate appearances. There are a few wrinkles in OBP, like Sac flies and hit by pitches that i'm not 100% sure about. But for the most part, it's what percentage of the time hitter gets on base, including walks, which makes it different than batting average
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,306
    this is the official rule that the official scorer goes by for wins:


    Rule10.17A
    a) The official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher that pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead,
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