Graphic Designers

pjoasisrule

I think the stress of being a graphic designer would take a huge toll on me over time. I need to do something less stressful I think.

dunkman

pjoasisrule wrote:

I think the stress of being a graphic designer would take a huge toll on me over time. I need to do something less stressful I think.

i got out... i was working 40-50 hours some weeks, some saturday mornings, etc.. i just had my first child and a job came up in a government setting... flexi-time, final salary pension etc... i got it.

I now do mostly digital mapping, but i save my department some money as i do their reports, leaflets, etc in-house and save on design costs.. keeps me involved with it albeit in a smaller capacity.

digital mapping is much more satisfying to me... i actually enjoy it and it has 90% less pressure than say fucking up someones job because you missed the 'o' when typing out of the word 'count'

schmoff

dunkman wrote:

i was working 40-50 hours some weeks

it and it has 90% less pressure than say fucking up someones job because you missed the 'o' when typing out of the word 'count'

yeah 40 hours is called a fulltime job, welcome to the real world, you work less than 8 hours a day now?

and i guess you don't proof read or even spellcheck your work huh? good thing you got out!

Collin

I studied printing and graphical design in secondary education. God, I hated it. I guess I liked the designing part but I was too slow. It took too long before I could put my design I had on paper on computer.

It's one of the best printing schools here. You could choose between printing, design, the both, multimedia and photography. I had both printing and design. I decided very early that I didn't want to design or print, so now I know a lot about colour, paper, inks, styles... and I hardly ever use it, but sometimes it comes in handy and I can surprise people with my random knowledge. We saw the whole process from the beginning till the end. The point was that we'd get a higher education in printing, design, management... the others who only took printing or design could start in a printing business right away and I can tell you they received adequate education and training. Many choose to get a higher education as well, motivated by money of course.

Most of my old class mates, who are not studying now, have pretty good positions and they found jobs quite easily.

Dylan Stone

schmoff wrote:

you work less than 8 hours a day now?

Did you see the key words in his last post... "job came up in a government setting."

Hail hail to the lucky ones.

Governement jobs are generally "cakeier" (NICE WORD...huh?) than the public sector. Don't you have any friends that like work for the county?

Sweet deal is all i can say....

dunkman

schmoff wrote:

yeah 40 hours is called a fulltime job, welcome to the real world, you work less than 8 hours a day now?

and i guess you don't proof read or even spellcheck your work huh? good thing you got out!

are your clothes made out of lemons... or are you always this bitter?

40-50 hours is what i fucking said... can't you proof read?

i also said i had started a family... family comes first, work second thank you very much. A government job with flexi-time and 5 hours less per week suits me better than kowtowing to your corporate clock.

Riot_Mac

I work for a commercial printer as a prepress sys admin. I manage our workflow, do technical support, trouble shoot shitty design files, customer support, etc.

It was decent at first when I setup our workflow, but now I am bored. I need to get out. I am good at what I due, but I don't think printing is for me. Not to mention print media is dying.

Collin

Riot_Mac wrote:

Not to mention print media is dying.

I don't think it'll die soon.

dunkman

Collin wrote:

I don't think it'll die soon.

maybe not but its definitely limping along.

http://www.printweek.com/news/

job losses everywhere... and I know of 3 local printing firms that have went bust in the last year. one of them was a company that had been on the go for 35+ years

http://www.printweek.com/news/779689/Scottish-printer-files-liquidation/

some companies will ride it out i'm sure, but the industry has been facing a slump for some years now... with PC's and macs at home, decent quality printers, web pages, etc etc etc .. printing is just not needed as much.

i.e. our print budget for our dept in the govt was £310,000 4 years ago... now its £77,000. most of our stuff is online now.

Collin

dunkman wrote:

maybe not but its definitely limping along.

http://www.printweek.com/news/

job losses everywhere... and I know of 3 local printing firms that have went bust in the last year. one of them was a company that had been on the go for 35+ years

http://www.printweek.com/news/779689/Scottish-printer-files-liquidation/

some companies will ride it out i'm sure, but the industry has been facing a slump for some years now... with PC's and macs at home, decent quality printers, web pages, etc etc etc .. printing is just not needed as much.

i.e. our print budget for our dept in the govt was £310,000 4 years ago... now its £77,000. most of our stuff is online now.

True, but it's not really doing well... but it won't die any time soon, I think. I guess the small printing companies face more difficult times.

Dylan Stone

dunkman wrote:

are your clothes made out of lemons... or are you always this bitter?

40-50 hours is what i fucking said... can't you proof read?

i also said i had started a family... family comes first, work second thank you very much. A government job with flexi-time and 5 hours less per week suits me better than kowtowing to your corporate clock.

DAMN.....

Everyone sounds so angry today! :eek:

Chill..... You should be in a good mood... you have a government job!

schmoff

dunkman wrote:

are your clothes made out of lemons... or are you always this bitter?

clothes, lemons?
i think something is being lost in translation

anyway i'm not bitter at all, i thought you were complaining about working 40 hours a week, thats a full time job, maybe it's different in scotland, idk

and the company i work for who spends millions on print work each year now mails twice as much as it did 10 years ago, but yes some prints fields are taking a hit as the rest of the entire world is taking a hit

sorry if i came off nasty before, was not trying to
maybe something was lost in the translation

dunkman

Collin wrote:

I guess the small printing companies face more difficult times.

i was in a small company, but clearly a 40 hour week was way too much for me... but my old boss invested in straight-to-plate machinery, digital presses, bigger sheet size presses, etc... so hopefully they'll ride it out (my friend and my cousin still work there so i wish them well)!!!

Riot_Mac

I work for a medium to large commercial printer and the company is struggling right now. I have seen a few rounds of layoffs. This is not unusual as most of my friends companies have seen layoffs as well. It is hard for small or medium sized printers to compete with RRD. They take up all the work like Wal-Mart.

nuffingman

Another day over. I made changes to a 16 page brochure, produced 3 adverts and a couple of email mailings. Bored out of my skull, been doing this far too long.

The print trade will almost die because of the web and email mailings. A lot of the work I do now never goes near a printer. I feel for them. Customers of mine are sending Christmas cards as emails, no printing, no postage but a promise of money to charity instead.

BUFFALO

The printing industry is tough and from what i know if you dont keep up with tech you will go under .

i just talked to an owner of a printing company an he said most of the pretenders kind of fell off the way side in the last 5 to 10 years ...

he said as much as their is alot of people ,young graphic designers or what have you ..that doo it themselves ,they find it to much of a hastle to do the printing and end up out sorcing their work.